An Unqualified Pringle Accuses Qualified People Of Having “Unqualified Thinking”

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PHIL PRINGLE: CORRUPT TEACHING & MANIPULATIVE GIVING.

Below is a transcript of Pringle in his sermon ‘Fighting The Good Fight P1′, preached on Sunday the 19th of January, 2014 (video being obtained).

Let’s analyse and review it:

“Everything you hear us preach up here isn’t by accident. We have thoroughly researched the opposition to it and the positive to it and it’s on a firm conviction and foundation of our faith of what we believe, in Jesus name, amen!”

Phil Pringle has been unashamedly promoting the false teaching about tithing for years. Below, Pringle declares what he and other preachers preach behind the C3 pulpit, “isn’t by accident“. If Pringle is openly admitting that what he teaches is not an accident, then how does he explain this ‘accident’?

A Good Example Of Pringle Teaching Dishonestly

Is he prepared to admit that he lied to his congregation about God saying to Joshua that ‘Someone took the tithe’? Is he prepared to admit that he twists the word of God to manipulate his congregation into giving money?

“So when- when stuff comes along about tithing and all that, I’m not bothered by that! I’ve done the research!”

We’re calling Pringle out on this. There is no way he can claim he’s researched this field in depth and then go on to mislead the congregation about his ‘teaching’ on the tithe. He claims, “Everything you hear us preach up hear isn’t by accident”. Can he then play the ‘ignorance’ card once he’s exposed for defending such a heresy?

And if he truly believes this, wouldn’t this make the church view this man, behind the pulpit, as biblically illiterate when it comes to properly teaching on the OT tithe doctrine and NT ‘joyful giving’?

PRINGLE CAN SPEAK AS THOUGH QUALIFIED?

This leads us to the next outrageous thing Pringle states:

“I’ve viewed the opposition’s thoughts! RIDICULOUS, UNQUALIFIED THINKING THAT ARE CONVENIENT FOR STINGY PEOPLE! That’s all it is!”

The tithe doctrine has been refuted for years by scholars, properly trained men in leadership, in the pastoral office and in the fields of apologetics. It is a false doctrine that is peddled by Word of Faith cults or ‘wolves’ who want to fleece the flock. What makes this even more outrageous is Pringle’s own hypocrisy.

Qualified vs unqualified? Don’t you think that’s interesting coming from Phil Pringle considering the fact that he’s been ‘exposed’ for misleading his church into believing that his credentials are legitimate?

If there is anyone who is unqualified to be behind the pulpit – Pringle fulfills his own criteria perfectly.

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Congo Line Of Unqualified Ministers Endorsed By Phil Pringle

And for someone unqualified as Pringle, he insists he has the ‘right’ to brainwash Christians everywhere with his false teachings on this dangerous doctrine which shipwrecks people’s faith. In fact, he accuses Christians, that if they withhold the tithe from God, they are “cursed” and accuses Christians of being “the very worst of thieves“.

If Pringle has “viewed the opposition’s thoughts”, why has he only hurled insults their way and created straw men arguments? His assertions have been nothing but misleading eisegesis to keep people quiet and to keep his congregation bound by his legalistic manipulation.

PRINGLE BRAINWASHING C3 MEMBERS?

“With opposite doctrines and teachings that you’ll hear floating around now and then. They may shake you in mind and trouble you a little. But that’s so to drive you to reinforce your conviction about what you believe.”

Notice the deceptive technique Pringle is employing here. If his members are shaken ‘in mind’, he does not encourage them to do a bible study on the tithe. Instead, he insists that these ‘opposite doctrines’ only reinforces this false teaching that he wants his members to believe. This is brainwashing. He is not encouraging people to look at the facts. Instead he is appealing to their emotions as a form of ‘blackmail’.

Sadly, THE opposite doctrine that refutes his false doctrine is the gospel of salvation itself. In other words, he is conditioning C3 members to harden their hearts against Christianity to embrace Pringle’s own works-based religion.

And then of course, Pringle decides to plug his “colleges”.

To get yourself to an longline college or bible college. You can watch it online if you’re watching online now. Online. Online. Just go ahead and enjoy it.”

These colleges are all about indoctrinating people to fit the C3 system. Sadly, the emails and documents we have received from ex-students have confirmed that what they are taught is a poor excuse of biblical Christianity.

It is true that Pringle’s colleges shake people. They shake every penny out of their pockets, shake any truth out of their brain cells and shake any integrity out of their souls.

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C3 College: Misrepresenting The Gospel?

C3 Bible College Students Taught To Be Manipulative Leaders

Pringle later states,

“And uh- First all get a cornerstone of our faith, firmly established so we’re not moved and shaken. I see people get tossed around and suddenly they are believing something else that they didn’t hear at the beginning! Because there is always somebody trying to kill, steal or destroy your faith. It’s a fight to hold on and apart of that fight is to get yourself on a firm, unshakable foundation. “

Notice how he avoids making CHRIST and the CROSS the foundation of the Christian life. In fact, you can watch his entire sermon on his site. Any viewer should be concerned that Pringle refused to connect the ‘cornerstone’ with Christ and the foundation of their faith with Christ. That’s because according to Pringle, faith (mixed with the tithe) is the foundation – not Christ alone. It’s reinforced a number of times that the cornerstone of the believers life is the tithe. 

Pringle’s ‘Financial Excellence’ Bible Study Notes, Exposed

So why are C3 members submitting to an unqualified man who appears to be blowing immature ‘raspberries’ at those who have refuted the absurd tithe doctrine? C3 members need to wake up and leave this false teacher behind, with his false words and false credentials.

TRANSCRIPT

Here is the transcript:

“Everything you hear us preach up hear isn’t by accident. We have thoroughly researched the opposition to it and the positive to it and it’s on a firm conviction and foundation of our faith of what we believe, in Jesus name, amen!

So when- when stuff comes along about tithing and all that, I’m not bothered by that! I’ve done the research! I’ve viewed the opposition’s thoughts! RIDICULOUS, UNQUALIFIED THINKING THAT ARE CONVENIENT FOR STINGY PEOPLE! That’s all it is! That’s all it is! If the cap fits, you know like- the deal is, that you’ve got to know what you believe and not let yourself be shaken. God is building an unshakable church!

And listen, here’s the thing in Hebrews twelve, twenty six… [Pringle reads Hebrews 12:26]

Now here’s the thing, God’s gonna shhh- allow you to be shaken. With opposite doctrines and teachings that you’ll hear floating around now and then. They may shake you in mind and trouble you a little. But that’s so to drive you to reinforce your conviction about what you believe. To get yourself to an longline college or bible college. You can watch it online if you’re watching online now. Online. Online. Just go ahead and enjoy it.

And uh- First all get a cornerstone of our faith, firmly established so we’re not moved and shaken. I see people get tossed around and suddenly they are believing something else that they didn’t hear at the beginning! Because there is always somebody trying to kill, steal or destroy your faith. It’s a fight to hold on and apart of that fight is to get yourself on a firm, unshakable foundation. There will be weak areas in everybody’s faith. Everybody’s got a weakness somewhere. A hole. And so the Lord allows that to be a bit shaky there so you can reinforce it. And build it up and get strong in that area. In fact, some of the areas is that I’m the strongest on are the areas that I was weakest on. Simply because of that fact.

You don’t grow strong without opposition or resistance. Ask any fitness trainer in the room. Their gonna tell you that’s the way you build muscle.”

Tithing is not a command in the New Testament – we give out of love, from the heart because we are under a new unconditional covenant not the Old Testament law.

Your best Leaf now…

Think happy thoughts!

Thanks to Dr. Caroline Leaf, you too can live an “upgraded” life.

“Julie also realized she no longer had to drive around in her old 1998 Navy Blue Toyota Corolla Seca. She could upgrade to a new white Audi A1 – which she loves. Go Jules!”

If you think God wants you to “upgrade” your life like this, then you’re not following “…..the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints” Jude 1:3. You’re following the religion of WOF/Prosperity cults. C3’s EVERYWOMAN site reported this heretical promotional piece on Julie Maconachie and Dr. Caroline Leaf:

TIME TO UPGRADE – TALKING WITH JULIE MACONACHIE

Everyone who knows Julie Maconachie, loves Julie Maconachie. A relaxed, fun-loving, ‘together’ friend, skilled pastor, sought after primary school teacher, engaging communicator, frequent patron of good cafes on the Northern Beaches, surfer chick, and a lady who never stops learning (she is currently part way through a MA in Christian Studies, majoring in Leadership).  Julie is a great lover of people and is greatly loved by people. However, like many of us, there are areas of her heart and mind, which have been clouded, and even damaged by some past circumstances she has faced and the false truths of the world which have crept in over time. Four months ago she found herself writing in her journal, “I don’t like myself. I’m not happy with where I’m at physically, emotionally or even spiritually. Something has to change”.  And that’s when, through a divine set of events, Julie was introduced to Dr. Caroline Leaf’s “Switch On Your Brain 21 Day Detox Plan – The Key to Peak Happiness, Thinking and Health”.  Dr Caroline Leaf is a communication pathologist and audiologist who has worked in the area of cognitive neuroscience since 1985. Joyce Meyer says of her work, “I am amazed at Dr Leaf’s ability to merge science and the Bible, and teach us the science and Scripture behind the amazing, God-given power we have within our minds”. So Julie started the 21-Day Detox Plan, which generally takes just 7-10 minutes per day. “It’s like having a life-coach to motivate you every morning”, says Julie. The Bible teaches us in Romans 12:2 NLT “but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God’s will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect.” This is something that supernaturally happens over the course of time as we connect and journey with God. However, Dr Caroline Leaf has found a way to walk us through the process hand-in-hand and help us step in to the untapped potential and ability we have to successfully process our way through life with Him. When I asked Julie how God has changed her, she said: “The Lord gave me the scripture Psalm 139:14-18 which immediately upgraded the value I place on myself to reflect the high value God places on me. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. How precious to me are your thoughts,[a] God! How vast is the sum of them! Were I to count them, they would outnumber the grains of sand—

when I awake, I am still with you.

As I progressed along the 21 days, issues of rejection, disappointment, fear and feelings of not being good enough surfaced. He spoke to me so powerfully through Ephesians 1:4-6:  For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will – to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. God has rewired me to accept, understand and behave according to the value He places upon me. He’s brought me back to my first love, the beautiful fresh feeling of discovering Him all over again. But this time, it’s coupled with the history of our relationship and what we’ve walked through and overcome together, so there’s a greater depth. It’s fun discovering with the Holy Spirit, new truths, having a clear understanding of what’s important (and not important) in my day to day life and rediscovering the simplicity of my calling, to love Christ, be His companion and brings others into relationship with Him. I feel free.”  Julie also realized she no longer had to drive around in her old 1998 Navy Blue Toyota Corolla Seca. She could upgrade to a new white Aldi A1 – which she loves. Go Jules! Julie now uses Dr. Caroline Leaf’s truths and findings as a key tool in her day-to-day pastoring and has seen incredible results in the lives of others. Dr. Caroline Leaf will be our Guest Speaker at Everywoman NOW I SEE Conference, 31 Oct – 1 Nov at C3 Oxford Falls – visit everywomangathering.com for more details. Ladies, let’s value ourselves enough to take 7-10 minutes aside each day to look after ourselves and prepare spiritually for this revolutionary teaching by getting a hold of the 21 Day Detox Plan. Check out21daybraindetox.com for more information. I’m in! Who’s with me? Love, Kirrily Kirrily Smeallie is wife to Dave, mother to beautiful Kayla and little Maybel, and is a key pastor at C3 Church City Campus. Source: TIME TO UPGRADE – TALKING WITH JULIE MACONACHIE, EveryWoman, http://www.everywomangathering.com/blog/2014/10/3/time-to-upgrade-talking-with-julie-maconachie, Published 03/10/2014. (Accessed 02/12/2014.)

Sounding the alarm: Discernment vs hypocrisy (updated).

The Bashing Of The Bloggers:

Every believer in Christ should be a discerner of false teachings and doctrinal heresies.

“In many Churches and sundry corners of the Evangelical Corporate Machine, it has become very popular [and occasionally profitable] to castigate, abuse, ridicule, and give warnings about “discernment bloggers” involved in Online Discernment Ministries. This is not always done by pastors and popular teachers who broach the issue unsettled and irked after finding themselves to be the targets of these bloggers, but more importantly and more broadly, by the very same laypeople who have egg on their face from not listening the last time they were warned about an important matter.

Here’s an inconvenient truth about discernment bloggers- for the ones who are thoughtful, accountable, well-researched and biblically centered, they’re proven right 99% of the time. They just are. It doesn’t take much to peruse the archives of Fightingforthefaith or Justin Peters Ministries, or Apprising ministries, or Wretched, and to a lesser extent the Pulpit and Pen to see the almost prophetic accuracy in which they’ve successfully called it. It almost always comes to pass. They pick up on and spot the small cracks in the theology as everyone insists there’s nothing there. “Sound and firm as a rock” they say, right before the chasm bursts open and swallows everyone whole.

As a general rule,  so-called “discernment bloggers” are about 36-48 months ahead of the curve in calling out danger that the rest of the evangelical Church only figures out after it’s become too late to minimize their losses.

For those who read the blogs and share with your loved ones the things you’re learning and are concerned about, this is why your family members and friends shrug you off and dismiss you as a “nitpicker,” telling you to “stand down” and stop sharing the blogs and Facebook status updates with them . If you’re lucky they might start talking to you again later down the road once it’s generally agreed upon that the man or woman in question was indeed sketchy and it doesn’t cost anything to admit his/her spiritual deviancy and shortcomings,  though they’ll likely never apologize for calling you “divisive” and “unloving” the first time around.

That’s because they’ll put the old stuff behind them, but then you’re back at square one with them once you start talking about the “new stuff.” For these discernment ministries doing the work of loving their neighbors, despite a stellar track record, though they may be  begrudging acknowledged when they’re proven right on past dangers, they’re still mocked and belittled when they warn about other new imminent dangers to the Church, as if it’s been complete forgotten that they were just proven right. Again. For the tenth time!  It’s a vicious circle. It’s not difficult to suppose that much of the angst toward discernment bloggers is due to the fact that the passing of time continually vindicates them, while the one theologically tweaked is continually put to shame.

The same people who said, “You’re just discernment bloggers” about Mark Driscoll’s imminent downfall, or the dangers of the Emergent Church and Rob Bell and his emergent mysterios before they went full-heretic, or a ton of other warnings and cautions that have been brought up and shown to be startlingly accurate in their realization, these people are now still saying “You’re just discernment bloggers” about Russell Moore’s capitulation on important issues, social liberalism and full-blown ecumenism, or  “You’re just discernment bloggers” regarding Beth Moore’s mysticism and growing Vision-Spawning Charasmanianical Claptrap . If the “discernment bloggers” keep getting it right on the other stuff that you didn’t see then, perhaps you could give them the benefit of a doubt on the stuff they’re talking about that you may not see now.

Instead of taking potshots at them and the people who learn from them and share their statuses and tweets, they would be better served spending less time rolling their eyes and complaining that discord is being sown and more time trying learning from the Bible that discernment is a spiritual gift for the edification of the Church and not an annoyance for which they and other mainstream evangelicals ought to despise them for.”

Source: By Jordan Hall, The Bashing Of The Bloggers, Pulpit & Pen, http://pulpitandpen.org/2014/11/29/the-bashing-of-the-bloggers/, Published/Edited 29/11/2014. (Edited/Expanded by Dustin Germain.) (Accessed 30/11/2014.)

Jordan Hall is the pastor of Fellowship Church in Sidney Montana. He is also a co-founder and executive board member of Reformation Montana, a missions-oriented organization made up of Reformed churches throughout Montana. In May 2013, Jordan gave a message at the 2013 Reformation Montana Conference entitled “A Modern Day Downgrade” that has quickly become the most listened to message of his career. In that message, he addressed some of the more embarrassing behavior and conduct within the Evangelical church in general and the Southern Baptist Convention specifically and pleaded with those involved to come to repentance (click here to listen).

When Experience Trumps Doctrine: The Toronto Blessing – 20 years on.

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Rodney and Adonica Howard-Browne at the opening of the C3 Oxford Falls building.

Back in the 1990s Phil Pringle invited Rodney Howard-Browne numerous times to “speak” at C3 Church Brookvale and later at Oxford Falls, Sydney. Rodney Howard-Browne is famous for bringing the “laughing revival” and gaining the nickname, the Holy-Ghost bar tender. He has been seen as the catatylst (through his “revival” at Lakeland, Florida), of what is now known as the Toronto Blessing.

Not only did Phil Pringle and C3 endorse this man, they actively promoted the Toronto Blessing at a week-long event at the former Brookvale church site. And we have photos that document the C3 Goldstore promoting books that defended the Toronto Blessing. Furthermore, we have documented proof that C3 even promotes the materials of Rodney Howard-Browne in their college libraries.

New Blessing or old heresy?

It has been correctly stated that the Toronto Blessing,

“is a mix of Gnosticism, Pelagianism, mysticism and even Arianism. Of Gnosticism, through claims of special spiritual enlightenment in the form of bogus prophetic insight and dubious words of knowledge. Of Pelagianism, through an emphasis on self-effort in finding and maintaining peace, joy and fulfilment in daily life (a recipe for mental breakdown and spiritual collapse if ever there were one). Of mysticism, by an emphasis on subjective experience denying the objectivity of God’s Word. Of Arianism, through an over emphasis on one member of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, at the expense of the others, thus denying the fulness of the deity of each member.” [Source]

And it seems the time HAS come when men (and women) will not put up with sound doctrine (2Tim 4:3). Instead of reflecting on the peace, hope and joy that Christ’s finished work has done for them by His life, death and resurrection,  instead we are seeing so many experience-driven churches and so few where Christ is honored and His Word obeyed.

Clearing the muddy waters of charismatic “renewal”:

We would like to thank one of our discerning readers for posting this below resource over on Hillsong Church Watch. This was a series of conference lectures from Crich Baptist Church Derbyshire. (http://www.crichbaptist.org/online-sermons/)

1: The Toronto Blessing – What Was It and Why Did It Happen?

2: The Toronto Blessing Twenty Years On: Perspectives On the Church and Society

3: The ‘Toronto Blessing’: Its Impact on the Charismatic and the Reformed Churches

4: The Spirit-Filled Life

We hope you enjoy these resources.

True revival or truly demonic-possession?

If the attached Toronto Blessing clip above, and its manifestations, are held to the light of Scripture, it can scarcely be called such. Absolutely nowhere in Scripture can one find a precedent for what was happening at the Toronto Airport church. The nearest that Scripture comes to describing the paralysis and bizarre behavior prompted by the Toronto Blessing are its documented effects of demonic possession (see Mark 9:18).

To quote Phil Johnson of Gracelife Church,

“We don’t need more hype and activity and mass movements. We need the pure light of God’s Word—”the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises” (2 Peter 1:19).” [Source]

How Caroline Leaf’s your brain after a C3 Woman’s conference…

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[Edit 18/11/2014: We have re-written this article to disclose more insightful screen grabs and expose the origins of Caroline Leaf’s teachings.]

THE UNQUALIFIED LEADING THE UNQUALIFIED

It should infuriate Christians that unqualified men endorse unqualified men at the expense of shunning qualified men who actually equip Christians with the wonderful saving power of God’s Word. What we are dealing with in Christianity today are outright frauds parading false credentials and deliberately refusing people entry into heaven due to their own Babylonian empires.

Jesus does not tolerate those who are false teachers in his kingdom – he calls them thieves and says that people like Phil Pringle, Chris Pringle and Caroline Leaf are here to kill, steal and destroy. Look at how Jesus portrayed the false teachers to their own faces in John 10:1-6 (emphasis ours):

“Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.

Caroline Leaf may be a qualified “cognitive neuroscientist with a PhD in Communication Pathology specializing in Neuropsychology”. But that does not mean she enters into the sheep pen by jumping the biblical requirements laid down by Christ and His Apostles.

According to Christ, His Apostles and God’s Holy Word – Dr Caroline Leaf is a fraud.

She has complete disregard for the qualifications of a pastor and teacher; opposes the teachings in scripture about women teaching and brings both the Christian faith and the fields of neuroscience/psychology into disrepute. This makes her an incredibly dangerous woman who is promoting rebellion in the church against God and His Word.

What makes this situation worse is that Phil and Chris Pringle encourage the Leaf in her fraudulent and rebellious ministry. Here is Phil and Chris Pringle with “Dr” Caroline Leaf.

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To make matters worse, here is Kenneth and Gloria Copeland with “Dr” Caroline Leaf. It’s really important to examine what she teaches us about herself here:

Taping with two giants of faith – Kenneth and Gloria Copeland! I love this wonderful couple from whom I have learned so much over the years. What an honor to be on their BVOV broadcast!!

Source: Caroline Leaf, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/tQ73rAhz7a/. (Accessed 18/11/2014.)

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Even though we now know where Caroline got her teaching from, do you know why these endorsements are so scandalous?

Well in case you forgot, Phil Pringle publicly endorses Kenneth Copeland as a prophet of God.

Phil Pringle And Kenneth Copeland

It should not surprise you that both Phil and Chris Pringle and Kenneth and Gloria Copeland push Occult New Thought/Metaphysical cult teachings.

Phil Pringle Influenced By Occult/ New Thought/ Metaphysical Cult Teachings

And what makes this issue worse? Phil Pringle, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland all have false theological credentials.

Congo Line Of Unqualified Ministers Endorsed By Phil Pringle

It’s a network of shams and this is what Jesus hates. Look at what Jesus accuses the false teachers of being and observe how he opposes them in John 10:7-10 (emphasis ours):

Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. 

It was always in the heart of God that the Christian Church per se, be a safe and wholesome sheep fold – not a goat’s pen. So how did we get to where the church is today?

We allowed false prophets and hirelings to “climb up some other way”. We didn’t protect the fold from interlopers and infiltrators. We forgot to shut the back door on these false profit ministries. Remember, the wolves come dressed up in SHEEP’S CLOTHING… ( and when they are on days off, they wear Amani suits…)

Why is it that Christians put up with these “thieves”?

If you attend C3 Church, please consider the words of your Lord and Saviour made against your “pastors”. This is not our accusation against Phil and Chris Pringle. This is your God in His Holy Word exposing and accusing Phil Pringle, Dr Caroline Leaf and the Copeland’s, of acting outside the means he has instituted.

Who are we to elevate man above what God has established? We sincerely ask you to pray and consider the gravity of Jesus’ words.

ARE YOU GROWING HEALTHY TREE THOUGHTS?

We do not know what Caroline Leaf actually taught at C3’s Every Woman’s Conference. However, her instagram teachings may give us a clue.

There are photos of Caroline Leaf teaching at C3 Women’s Conference with a small tree on stage on her Instagram.

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This is her commentary while she was at C3 EveryWomen’s Conference.

It is with our phenomenal minds that we understand the truths set down in our spirits!
Source: http://instagram.com/p/u_pz5TBzwc/ (Accessed 18/11/2014.)

When we think with our mind we change our brain! We control our brain; our brain does not control us! #beingledbythespirit #neuroplasticity #renewing themind
Source: http://instagram.com/p/vCHTByBz4M/ (Accessed 18/11/2014.)

And here are just a snippet of some of the crazy things she has taught.

DR LEAF SAYS…

… You can merge Roman Catholic Mysticism, New Age practices and neuroscience together and still call it Christianity!

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… Research shows you are pre-wired to achieve a unique and divine purpose.

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… When you babble… one goes through a… spiritual frontal lobotomy?

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… When you are having a spiritual frontal lobotomy… you are getting wisdom?

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… your grand kids are ugly because you didn’t control your mind?

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.. we can unlock the magic in our brains! (Can anyone explain to us WHY she uses this verse?)

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However, an honest assessment of the situation would admit that there is no ‘magic’ in our brains – only confusion, depression and anxiety. Without Christ in our lives, as Lord and Saviour, we are bankrupt and devoid of any genuine spirituality, and we tend to flounder around on an ocean of guilt, fear and a distinct lack of understanding as to our true position of being the redeemed of the Lord.

Unqualified “impastors” like Caroline Leaf are only in it for the glory, the money and the prestige of having “made it” in the current NAR/WOF streams of “ministry”. Certainly, her attempt to fuse Hyper Faith and her own interpretation of medical science, in no way allows her the moral license to teach this unbiblical rant from the pulpit, as if she were a qualified pastor or teacher, who holds the word of God in high esteem and the traditions of men in contempt.

Lastly, here is another curly-whirly our beloved Lady Leaf drops,

For the LOTR fans😃.. Mac and I are standing in the exact spot where Arwin was holding Frodo facing the Nazgul…facing our fears is difficult but not impossible when we rest in God!

Source: Caroline Leaf, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/tV3kkBBz1G/, 18/11/2014.

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THE RESULTS AFTER RECEIVING DR CAROLINE’S TEACHING?

Sadly, if you apply the teachings of Dr Leaf – you too could end up becoming a leaf like Chris Pringle.

thanks to all who came to @everywomangathering – remember you are growing healthy tree thoughts!!!! Here is a pic to remind you all how beautiful you are- green & flourishing – planted in Gods House🌳 biggest blessings & hugs girls!! 😘😘😘 I love you ❤️
Source: http://instagram.com/p/u7eJpWLfv-/, Accessed 18/11/2014.

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Chris Pringle also published this:

hope you are sprouting good thoughts today!!? ❤️ ha!
Source: http://instagram.com/p/vYIca0Lfut/, Accessed 18/11/2014.

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Poor Chris! How will she ever recover after receiving this treatment from Dr Leaf?

Sadly, it is important we heed the warning’s Jesus gave the people against the Pharisees, against the Pringle’s, against the Copelands, against Caroline Leaf and against any other false teacher. It’s only a matter of time before the pit swallows them. Now is the time to outreach to these people and see them repent and turn to Jesus before it is too late.

Jesus said,

“You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:

“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:7-14

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“Like a muddied spring or a polluted well are the righteous who give way to the wicked.” Proverbs 25:26

A Deceptive Prophecy Given To the Glory Gathering During December 2012

Amanda WellsThis piece will be our last piece on Amanda Wells for hopefully some time. This article will look at a certain ‘prophecy’ given by Gold Coast “prophetess” Amanda Wells, to Katherine Ruonala and the Glory Gathering aka Glory City Church, situated in the inner Brisbane suburb of Kelvin Grove, in December 2012. (Amanda Wells’ comments in italics.) You can see the full prophecy at the bottom of this article.

“Over the last couple of days I’ve just been praying, “God what’s for 2013?” I had a word as I was walking yesterday and I wrote to Pastor Katherine and gave it to her. And I really believe that 2013 is going to be really, really pivotal because God is a triune God. Everything God does is in threes. Father, Son, Holy Spirit; Heaven’s in threes. And so, next year, 2013, is a pivotal year because it’s the third year. It’s like the third day. God’s going to break out. And as I was praying I heard God say that “Glory City Church is going to break out.”

Well, well, well, Amanda – what do you know about that? “I had a word as I was walking yesterday and I wrote to Pastor Katherine and gave it to her…” and who or what was the source of that ‘word’ Amanda?

Was there an underlying passage or two of scripture that supported the ‘word’? No? How about the confirmation of two or three credible, reliable ‘witnesses’ (mature brethren) Amanda? What, none? Hmmmmm – doesn’t look good does it, Amanda? “It’s like the third day” – how very NAR of you!

“There are going to be Glory Gatherings in Australia and overseas. And those Glory Gatherings are going to turn into Glory City Churches and I saw three for this year particularly. One overseas, maybe two overseas, but definitely in Australia as well. And I just saw over Pastor Tom and Pastor Katherine such an apostolic anointing coming. They’ve been standing in it but now the apostolic anointing is really upon them; it’s being released.”

Looks like there’s going to be a ‘multiplication of churches’, “…and those Glory Gatherings are going to turn into Glory City Churches and I saw three for this year particularly” but then again, that might just be the good old fashioned ‘cloning’ or ‘rebadging’ process, mightn’t it? There is absolutely no guarantee that this ‘prophecy’ is of God, no matter how holy and righteous it may sound. In fact, it sounds just like the ‘church growth’ ideology, doesn’t it? Oh dear Amanda, we do hope that ‘pastor Katherine’ didn’t give you a love offering for this one – she may have to come calling for a refund sometime soon…

Let’s remind ourselves briefly, of what scripture demands of prophets:

“Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted…” (1 Corinthians 14: 29, 30)

We don’t want to confuse or conflate the ‘gift of prophecy’ (as above) – that which is used in a normal gathering of believers, with the “office” of a prophet, which Amanda Wells claims to hold. If her prophetic utterance/gift wasn’t judged by the brethren at her local church, during a normal church service, then she automatically goes into the big league of NT Prophet – end of story. So her ‘prophecy’ must be judged accordingly for 100% accuracy – nothing less. Sorry about that Amanda, but they are the rules. The gift of prophecy is always judged at the local level, but NT Prophets are held accountable for every word they say on the national/international scale.

There are two clear instances that come to mind from scripture  – Agabus, prophesying a famine (Acts 11:28,) which is a historically recorded fact, during the days of the Roman Emperor, Claudius Caesar, and the other time, was when Agabus prophesied over the apostle Paul, concerning his fate:

“As we were staying there for some days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. And coming to us, he took Paul’s belt and bound his own feet and hands, and said, “This is what the Holy Spirit says: ‘In this way the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.'”… (Acts 20:10, 11)

The Book of Acts record both prophecies coming from Agabus, a recognized NT prophet – and both prophecies came true, just as the prophet had said. Notice that modern day ‘prophets’ are often ambiguous in how they deliver their ‘divine words’ concerning people, places and events? Like the word ‘building’ – during 2012 the Glory Gathering did look at several buildings, as options for larger congregations, but what is Amanda saying here, in her ‘prophecy’? A larger church building or a buildup of numbers…?

“And so, as it is, you’re going to see building start, and the building is going to bring structure. The structure is not to keep God in or keep God out, or keep you in or keep you out, but it’s to bring order because now the Church is going to face a time of great order. And some of you might be a little bit upset about that, but know that God is saying, “This is the time of order” because He’s bringing divine order.”

“…because now the Church is going to face a time of great order…” Well that just about does it for us – this tripe sounds just like the old Shepherding and Discipling doctrines of the 1970’s and 80’s – great order? What kind of rubbish is ‘Amanda’ foisting on top of poor old ‘apostle’ Katherine Ruonala? It sounds more like ‘top down control’, doesn’t it? Well, Amanda does attempt to explain this great ‘order’ that God is bringing to the Glory Gathering sometime soon:

“This is the time of order, because He’s bringing divine order.”        

(Was the Glory Gathering church in any particular kind of disorder, before Amanda’s prophecy? Perhaps, but we’ll never know…)

“It’s a time when He’s going to release apostolic leadership in the House…”

Ah well, now we have it – now we’re getting to the crux of it – more “apostles”! Of course, you see brethren, you can’t have more (NAR) churches, unless you have more (NAR) apostles, can you? So this great multiplication of ‘apostles’ has to take place first, and no doubt Katherine Ruonala would’ve been working overtime in order to concoct some kind of class (Apostolic 101?) in order to cater for the ‘demand’ of  Amanda’s ‘prophecy’. But if the ‘prophet’ who identifies just who the new order ‘apostles’ are, is proven to be a fake, then the whole “apostolic succession” goes out the window, doesn’t it?

“Because the apostolic leadership must multiply and actually take the DNA of Glory City Church into places around the Earth.”

What, pray tell, is the ‘DNA’ of Glory City Church? Is it that stamp of ownership that enjoins everything that is NAR here in old Brisbane town? Probably. DNA is a church growth code word for ‘culture’ – those who understand the church growth jargon will see it straight away. We saw this same “DNA” nonsense in another Brisbane church back in 2007, and that’s all it is – our culture, our vision, our loyalty to our pastor/pastrix – that’s what is meant by a churches’ DNA.

Amanda is merely babbling on about how the Glory Gathering is going to expand worldwide, and in so doing, will either clone or rebadge dozens of other ‘churches’ with the Glory Gathering’s DNA as a mainstay of their global agenda, going forward.

“And so you’re going to see the apostolic leadership and don’t get upset when it happens, but know that God has an anointing on this House.”

Why are we not surprised? Because we saw all of the NAR rot setting in at that church several years ago – and left. Bill Hammon, Brian Simmons, Patricia king – TODD BENTLEY!!! In 2011 it was Cindy Jacobs and Che Ahn. Yes, the whole line up of NAR heroes was present throughout the time of our visitation. Of course, all of this ‘false profit’ nonsense was predicated on the ‘anointing’ flowing from the fingertips of these ‘apostles and profits’!

KatherineRuonala

Katherine Ruonala has managed to ingratiate herself with the top shelf ‘heavies’ of the NAR movement in our day, and has reaped some handsome ‘rewards’ for doing so. She gets to host all of the above once or twice a year, and she also gets to travel on the international speaking/preaching circuit at least two or three times a year as well, but ‘apostles’ like Katherine, could never get up in the first place, without the ‘nod’ coming from a group if recognised ‘prophets’ – that just wouldn’t do – and that’s where Amanda Wells comes in. She is a ladder climbing deceiver, who poses as a business coach by day and a false prophet by night. Make no mistake brethren, this woman has not one ounce of the Spirit of God abiding on her.

There are some strong links between the Glory Gathering and Bethel – the veritable headquarters of everything NAR, situated at Redding in California, and run by Bill Johnson, with some of Katherine’s more ‘advanced’ disciples, choosing to be further deceived by spending some six months or more “going to the next level” in God, by attending Johnson’s School of the Spirit type ministry. Of course, that costs a lot of money – thousands of dollars per student, per year. Katherine Ruonala styles herself after well-known women Evangelists, such as Aimee Semple McPherson and Maria Woodworth Etter. She is a publicly avowed devotee of William Marion Branham – the Granddaddy false prophet of them all.

But, nevertheless, Amanda has said it (the divine ‘word’) – and we’d better believe it if we know what’s good for us. So, it looks like the following year (2013) was all done and dusted, not long after Amanda had unwrapped her Christmas presents.

“Multiplication is coming in this place. And it’s not just coming in here but it’s coming around the world. And you’re going to see the DNA of this House start to be planted in every place, even around the world. It is an amazing year in Jesus.”

But then again, a casual observer would be well within their rights to question this Bible based babble, wouldn’t they? No scripture to support the ‘word’ of Amanda, no multiple witnesses to confirm that it was from God, and absolutely no way of knowing whether it was an accurate New Testament prophecy at all. “Well done” Amanda – we’re sure that Katherine will have you back again sometime soon for one more go around the block!

CONCLUSION

So how do we assess ‘Amanda’ against the backdrop of the current NAR landscape? Do we try and find a ‘home’ for her amongst the myriads of emerging “apostles and prophets”, or do we discern the kind of spirit that is behind such folly? The NAR isn’t the first organisation to emerge on the world scene, claiming that they are the only ones – they have the ‘new revelation’ – and that “they” collectively have the monopoly on God, because they are the New Dawn, heralded by their own personal apostles and prophets. So, if you want to exchange the ‘old church’ for a ‘new church’ – then you also have to replace the original ‘apostolic/prophetic NT team’, with an ‘NAR apostolic/prophetic team’, and make it stick – it’s that simple!

There were other movements that have made similar claims in times past – one of those being the Mormon Church. Founding fathers Joseph Smith and Brigham Young also had similar claims towards divine inspiration and revelation – claims that have subsequently proven to be false. Essentially, Mormonism looks to be ‘Christian’ in word and deed, but further investigation has revealed modern day Mormonism to be little more than a pagan cult, couched in Christian ‘terminology’. It builds ‘temples’ and baptizes people ‘for the dead’. We’ve even heard that tithing is mandatory and it is checked regularly.

Mormonism was predicated on Smith allegedly finding a number of secret golden plates – plates with strange writing on them, which could only be properly discerned by using the two magic ‘peep stones’ named “Urim and Thumim”. By looking through the two (glass) stones, Smith and Young claimed that the writing on the golden plates could be deciphered, and that is where the Book of Mormon came from – of course it did… aided and abetted by visions from the (fallen) angel Moroni.

This is pagan priest craft at its best – it is also age old Gnosticism – “we have the secret knowledge of the ages, and it can only be discerned by our high priest/priestess” – for a small sum of money – votive offerings as well as regular ‘seasonal’ ones too. “First fruits anybody”? Or maybe we can have ‘Honour the witchdoctor” offerings, or maybe we can even offer our time, talents, energy and money, as well as our spouses and children. And in very special cases (of gross deception) we can even offer the family home upon the altar of this pagan sect, called the NAR.

So how does this work for ‘Amanda’ and her ilk? Well the ‘peep stones’ have been replaced with books, CDs and DVDs as interpreted by Amanda. The ‘golden plates’ of Mormon fame were whipped away back into heaven by Moroni after they had been ‘translated’. Strange isn’t it, that when you and I go looking for verifiable Biblical proof, there isn’t any. Unless you’re looking for jewelry manifesting in the carpet, oil just dripping off ‘Pastor Dezastor’s hands and false angelic presence and revelation manifesting in their meetings. Which you find in the modern day NAR, and where equivalent forms of deception were found in the early Mormon church.

And what was Mormonism the answer too? Christianity? Didn’t they have their own apostles and prophets “take the DNA… into places around the earth”, convincing Christianity they were the church, the whole church and nothing but the true church? If they want to use the word “DNA”, then the only DNA the church has is the Word of God.  Faith comes be hearing and hearing the word of God. Not so with Amanda and Glory City Church. It looks as though the “DNA of [Glory City Church]” is more or less the culture of their church. It is not the historic Christian faith that is the DNA, it is their Glory City culture.*

Joseph Smith was a plagiarist and a scammer – he stole stories from other writers that went to make up the Book of Mormon. He also sold “holy Wheat” to desperate farmers, suffering the ravages of drought.

But… Amanda, have you stolen your ‘revelations’ from others? And what have you got on special this week? “Anointed” CDs and DVDs? Buy one get one free?

Why are we not surprised.

AMANDA WELL’S PROPHECY

Over the last couple of days I’ve just been praying, “God what’s for 2013?” I had a word as I was walking yesterday and I wrote to Pastor Katherine and gave it to her. And I really believe that 2013 is going to be really, really pivotal because God is a triune God. Everything God does is in threes. Father, Son, Holy Spirit; Heaven’s in threes. And so, next year, 2013, is a pivotal year because it’s the third year. It’s like the third day. God’s going to break out. And as I was praying I heard God say that “Glory City Church is going to break out.”

There are going to be Glory Gatherings in Australia and overseas. And those Glory Gatherings are going to turn into Glory City Churches and I saw three for this year particularly. One overseas, maybe two overseas, but definitely in Australia as well. And I just saw over Pastor Tom and Pastor Katherine such an apostolic anointing coming. They’ve been standing in it but now the apostolic anointing is really upon them; it’s being released.

And so, as it is, you’re going to see building start, and the building is going to bring structure. The structure is not to keep God in or keep God out, or keep you in or keep you out, but it’s to bring order because now the Church is going to face a time of great order. And some of you might be a little bit upset about that, but know that God is saying, “This is the time of order” because He’s bringing divine order.

It’s a time when He’s going to release apostolic leadership in the House. Because the apostolic leadership must multiply and actually take the DNA of Glory City Church into places around the Earth. And so you’re going to see the apostolic leadership and don’t get upset when it happens, but know that God has an anointing on this House. Multiplication is coming in this place. And it’s not just coming in here but it’s coming around the world. And you’re going to see the DNA of this House start to be planted in every place, even around the world. It is an amazing year in Jesus.

Source: Amanda Wells, Prophetic Words, Glory City Church, http://www.glorycitychurch.com.au/propheticwords/, Prophecy given  30th December 2012. (Accessed 04/11/2014 at 14:26pm.)

*We will be doing a future article on Katherine Ruonala and Glory City Church.

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Your best life with Amanda Wells…

“The Lord had spoken to me to start to train people…”

“Still not convinced???”

“You should consider this an investment, and a wise investment at that!”

These are the words from our beloved impastor Amanda Wells from our previous article.

Introducing Airbrushed Amanda Wells

As you can see, Amanda is queen of all things gimmicky. She is a woman who thinks she hears from God but seems unable to form a coherent thought. Oddly enough, we have seen this similar erratic behaviour broadcast from behind the C3 “church” pulpit from Phil and Chris Pringle.

Chris Rosebrough pointed out the erratic, non-coherent mind of Phil Pringle when he reviewed Phil Pringle’s 2010 sermon. Cindy Stokes offered this observation when she critiqued Chris Pringle at Presence Conference 2012 (this was the sermon where Chris bought a tree on stage and started talking to it):

“The title of Chris Pringle’s message is “The Scent of Water”. Before you write off that title as ridiculous, in all fairness, that phrase does appear in Job 14, but she fails to present a message that really has anything to do with water or anything that water represents. Instead, she centers the message around the idea of seeds and trees. Sometimes the seed is a dream, sometimes it’s a person. Sometimes the tree is your dream, sometimes it’s you and sometimes it’s the church. Sometimes you’re supposed to bury your seed and let it die. Sometimes you’re supposed to be the seed and reach up to the “scent of water”. Sometimes you’re supposed to shut it in a woodshed and forget about it. (You think I’m kidding, don’t you. Just wait and see for yourself.) As erratic as her imagery may be, her speaking style is more so. I lost count of the times she interrupted herself. Chris Pringle is a world class bunny trailer.[Source]

In our first article on Airbrush Amanda, we stated,

“With this kind of culture in the C3 and Hillsong movements, an Amanda Wells type of person is bound to arise and embody the nature of these cultures.”

This article will explore this statement further and look at some of the products Amanda presents. To play it safe we made a serious claim that Amanda Wells, “lies and blasphemes God to further her own selfish ambitions”. It’s only appropriate that we back this claim up.

Where would we be without Amanda Wells and Phil Pringle?

You Can BUY the Anointing 

When researching Amanda, we couldn’t help notice this rather hilarious page:

Amanda’s Products

On this page, Amanda writes,

Amanda Wells’ anointed and life-changing CD’s, DVD’s and Books will inspire and equip you to fulfil your God-given assignment, whether it’s in the Marketplace or in the Church arena.

Check out the Product of the Week and Specials.

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

What does this sound like? Don’t you think this sounds like the gimmicks you would see at Phil Pringle’s C3 services and Presence Conferences?

Remember we were told that you can buy the anointing of Phil Pringle to hang on your walls at home or at your work.

You Too Can BUY Phil Pringle’s ‘Godly’ Anointing!

Phil Pringle the “scam” artist?

Let’s look at some of Amanda Well’s “anointed and life-changing CD’s, DVD’s”.

REFUTING AMANDA’s SIMONESS OFFICE

Before tackling her merchandise, we would like to arm you with these scriptures first. Don’t you think Amanda Wells fits the role of a false prophet rather well?

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:1-3

How can you discern if Amanda Well is true or not? Consider this bold statement by the Apostle Paul when he was dealing with false prophets and teachers in Corinth. Does she contradict or undermine the writings of Paul?

If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 1 Corinthians 14:36-38

How do you think Jesus and his Apostles dealt with false prophets making merchandise of people?

[…] Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’c ? But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’” Mark 11:15-17

But there was a man named Simon, who had previously practiced magic in the city and amazed the people of Samaria, saying that he himself was somebody great

Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money, saying, “Give me this power also, so that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.” Acts 8:9,18-23

AMANDA’S ANOINTED MERCHANDISE

In her DVD The 9TH Hour SEASON, Ms. Wells advertises how you can die like Jesus just so you can move boldly in your 9th hour! Have you stepped into your 9th hour of atonement season yet? If not, buy your own nails, crucifix, hammer, curtain and this quality set of CD’s and DVD’s from Amanda Wells.

The 9TH Hour SEASON

1 CD and 2 DVD’s
In Matthew 27, it says Jesus hung on the Cross and in the 6th hour, the world was plunged into darkness. Then in the 9th hour, the veil in the Temple was rent and the graves were open.

Today as the world is enveloped by an economic and environmental crisis and many have felt their dreams have sunk into the depths of the grave. The Church has entered a new season, the 9th hour!

In this teaching taken from Acts 3, you will see how important it is to understand the dynamics of the 9th hour and how to move into it.

You will see were it is a season of:
* Suddenlies
* Miracles
* New partnerships and renewed sponsorships, and much, much more! If you don’t understand the dynamics of this new season you could be arrested in one season for too long and miss the fullness of this new season.

Don’t let this season pass you by!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

Has God stopped in your life? Is Jesus stuck in your yesterday? Do you want him to change so he can also be the God of today and forever? For ten dollars, Amanda can teach you how you can take God off your leash so he can become unstoppable in your life!

UNSTOPPABLE GOD

COST: $10.00

On this CD Amanda shares how our God when unleashed is unstoppable. He has unstoppable power, unstoppable presence, unstoppable possibility and an unstoppable plan. Therefore All things are possible!

Don’t miss this CD, because when He reveals His unstoppable power, He unstitches us and unstoppable worship is unleashed!!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

Do you want another anointing to hang around your neck so you can have the same grammatical brilliance as Amanda Wells? Then you get her Cyrus Anointing for TEN DOLLARS!!!

Cyrus Anointing

2 CD set

COST: $20.00

In this 2 hour teaching, Amanda will open the scriptures concerning Cyrus, King of Persia. Who was he, what was his past. How did he effect the marketplace and begin a transfer of wealth in the nations.

Is God releasing a Cyrus anointing in the Body of Christ today! Don’t miss this teaching, there is so much revelation in here you will have to listen over and over!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

If you are a Christian and have not received the saving revelation of God’s grace, Ms. Wells is here to save the day! Who cares that “God does not show favoritism”! (Acts 10:34.) Who cares if Christians “receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ”! (Romans 5:17.)

In this DVD, Amanda will teach you how to “process” God’s favour and how it can be “activated in your life”. Ms. Wells knows how to work for her grace and now she wants to help you too!

Throw your bible out the window and get ready to hear this impastor teach how God’s Favour can suck people into your own personal vaccum-cleaner anointing! Embrace Mandy’s Twilight Zone as you unlock the “7 dimensions of the Spirit” through “Favour”!

So be astonished! Be sure to quickly desert God “who called you in the grace of Christ” and turn to Mandy’s different good news— “not that there is another one” (Galatians 1:6-7).

DIVINE FAVOUR
COST: $25.00

This is the Day of the favour of the Lord! Once you understand the process of Favour and how it is released and activated in your life, it begins to change the quality of your life. Learn how:
* Favour attracts people to you and then supernaturally releases an anointing from you.
* How favour is related to the fear of the Lord.
* How when you operate in favour you release the 7 dimensions of the Spirit of the Lord.
* How Favour affects the atmosphere around you.

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

In her “Heaven Won’t Wait” DVD, “Amanda can’t wait” to get over teaching the MYSTERY of the cross and preach Amanda and Amanda glorified. Just like Jesus, Amanda wants to preach how she died and rose again!

Although the Apostles were big on preaching the mysteries of Christ, Amanda wants to preach about the mysteries of her experience in heaven in this amazing DVD! She will teach you things she sees in heaven that not even the bible records! Move over Jesus – her testimony is a MUST buy!

Heaven Won’t Wait
COST: $25.00

In this DVD Amanda shares a teaching about the mystery of the cross. Afterward she shares how in 1995 she died while on the operating table undergoing a complicated 10 hour operation. In this teaching Amanda shares her supernatural experience and the mysteries uncovered while there.

You will find out what words from Jesus had immense impact on her life and imparted a fire in her bones that causes the passion many see today!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

The only thing we can think people can get when they buy and listen to Ms. Well’s products is a spiritual frontal lobotomy. Why do it?

Jesus said that false teachers like Amanda Wells and Phil Pringle are thieves and that, “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full” (John 10:10). Jesus has come to give us HIS life. And the abundant life he has given us is His eternal life. Yet for some reason, these frauds have the audacity to think they can replace or even improve Christ’s offer.

In all seriousness, what can these false teachers offer Christians that Christ and His Word can’t? The answer: themselves. And what is tragic is that these false teachers (just like Simon “The Great”), operate out of insecurity “gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity”.

It is time the church used the words of Peter against these false teachers saying, “Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you”.

Introducing Airbrushed Amanda Wells

Amanda Wells un-frinklefied

Note: We did not edit these photos. These are photos she has of herself on the internet.

In our last article, we stepped into Kooky Land and pointed out how Chris Pringle decided to invite the whacky Caroline Leaf to speak at C3’s annual Every Woman’s Conference.

One commentor highlighted some other popular home-grown kooks down here in Australia.

I’m afraid that they missed out on a few ‘locals’ though:

1. False apostle Katherine Rounala of GG fame (NAR) (www.katherineruonala.com) and (http://www.glorycitychurch.com.au/)

2. Then there’s Amanda Wells (who claims to be a prophet and a business coach , and all at the same time – quite a juggling act, if you ask me) (http://wellsministries.com.au/site/about-amanda/) and then last, but by no means least:

3. Faylene Sparks (formerly Faylene Hill of COC/SOP pedigree, now independent “prophetess”) (http://www.faylenesparkesministries.com/bio/)

I just thought that I’d mention a few more names – I wouldn’t want them to feel left out… not from a line up like that one… [Source]

One name that stood out to us is the notorious Airbrush Amanda Wells.

WHO IS AMANDA WELLS?

Putting it bluntly, Amanda Wells is as legitimate as a three dollar bill. Her prophecies are fake, her stories and testimonies are not often true. And more importantly, she lies and blasphemes God to further her own selfish ambitions.

Why are we calling her Airbrushed Amanda? Well we originally found Wells’ marketing gimmicks hilariously bad. Her marketing schemes and cheap looking adverts gave us the idea of calling her AmWay AmWells. However, we didn’t think that was fair to Amway. Similarly to her airbrushed adverts, Wells conveniently airbrushes prophecies, events and her troublesome past out of existence.

Self proclaimed airbrushed Amanda Wells advertising herself.

Why are we focusing on Amanda on C3 Church Watch?

One thing that professional frauds in ministry attract are other juvenile frauds. People like Amanda look at the professional gimmicks and try to pull them off in their own unique ministries. Just as Phil Pringle and Brian Houston parade themselves as motivational speakers and prophets, so does Amanda. Just as Phil Pringle and Brian Houston preach their life stories, so does Amanda. Just as they lie and distort scripture to sell their products (Phil Pringle – his art, Brian Houston – his music), so does Amanda. Similar to how Houston and Pringle dabble in NAR, WoF and Prosperity heresy, so too does Airbrushed Amanda.

You get the idea. With this kind of culture in the C3 and Hillsong movements, an Amanda Wells type of person is bound to arise and embody the nature of these cultures.

The only difference is Amanda does it badly. Once you analyse her cheap gimmick-driven sermons and 24/7 info-mercial ministry, you will notice how Phil Pringle and Brian Houston pull off similar tricks with only more intelligence, skill, money and professionalism. Even though Airbrushed Amanda may imitate Brian Houston’s motivational gimmick style, she appears to fit the glove of Pringle more. This is because both Wells and Pringle amplify their prophetic office to control people and conveniently airbrush their dodgy past out of existence. Not to mention, both Wells and Pringle sell anointed products, beat up people relentlessly over tithing and lay divine judgments or curses on people that oppose them.

Furthermore, one growing trend in the church is the idea that leaders and pastors can also be a “Business Coach” and “Life Coach” to the rest of Christendom. While these offices are not biblical offices, we see this trend not only with Amanda Wells but also key figures in the C3 movement. One such woman is Amanda Antcliff, wife of Pat Antcliff.

WHO IS AMANDA ANTCLIFF?

On amandaantcliff.com, she writes,

Amanda Antcliff

Amanda Antcliff lives on the beautiful northern beaches of Sydney, Australia, with her husband, Patrick and their two children, Jacinta and Tyler. Her church home for twenty years has been C3 Church; where she is on the pastoral team and is a trainer at the C3 College, which her husband oversees. For two years Amanda lived in Cebu city in the Philippines where she and her husband pastored a church. They are now involved in planting C3 churches in Asia and Africa.

Amanda and Patrick have established four successful businesses. In 2006, Amanda began her own life coaching business, Your Cafe Coach and it was relaunched in 2011 as My Personal Coach. In 2008 her book, Women Rising, was published in Australia, and in 2010 in the USA. In recent years Amanda has regularly presented ‘Doses of Inspiration’ on the TV show Positive Hits. Amanda also speaks both nationally and internationally at churches, conferences, bible colleges and in various business settings.

Her Values: ‘I value my family, my friends and my faith. I cherish life and see it as a gift to be embraced and treasured. I value personal growth and desire to maximize my own potential and purpose – and to help others realize theirs. Commitment, courage, integrity, generosity, hard work, faithfulness, creativity and adventure, are all virtues I value highly.’

Her Life Purpose: ‘My purpose may be summarized in one word and it is to STIR! It means to arouse, to awaken and to agitate. My personal mission is to stir in other people their God given dreams, desires, talents and passions … and see them motivated to action.’

Her Style: ‘I like the balance of personal and professional – my aim is excellence with warmth. What I preach, teach or coach I have applied to my own life. My aim is to speak words that are insightful, guiding, supportive and motivating. My desire is to impart a spirit which will inspire others to courageously fulfill their purpose and their call.’

Source: Amanda Antcliff, meet amanda, Amanda Antcliff, http://www.amandaantcliff.com/pages/meet-amanda.php, Accessed 09/11/2014.

WHO IS PAT ANTCLIFF?

Pat Antcliff is the C3 College Principal. On the C3 College website he writes,

Pat Antcliff

Lives that make a difference can’t be lived like everyone else.

People who want to be fruitful in the service of God, need to be prepared. At C3 College that is what we’re passionate about, that is what we do!

We teach students the knowledge and skill they need to serve God with excellence. Our trainers are current, fruitful practitioners in leadership, creative ministry, youth ministry, children’s ministry, pastoral care and other key areas of local church.

Our specialist ministry and leadership skills are built on a firm foundation of biblical and theological understanding and Spirit empowerment – but our training doesn’t stop here. Lives that make a difference have strong character and well formed Kingdom motivations, attitudes and convictions.

The mentoring and discipleship that happen at C3 College build these areas of a person’s life. Thousands of our graduates around the world are living extraordinary lives serving God. Anything worthwhile has a price tag; however, the rewards for paying the price to prepare yourself to serve God are eternal.

Source: Pat Antcliff, C3 College, http://c3college.com/leadership-ministry/leadership-lecturers/pat-antcliff/, Accessed 02/11/2014.

The phrase that stood out to us was, “Our specialist ministry and leadership skills are built on a firm foundation of biblical and theological understanding and Spirit empowerment”. Also, “Lives that make a difference have strong character and well formed Kingdom motivations, attitudes and convictions.

Obviously as the Principal of the C3 College, Pat Antcliff and Amanda Antcliff do not apply to Pat’s own standard above. Why?

AIRBRUSHED AMANDA AND THE C3 CONNECTION

This is from Amanda Wells back in her Master Class days.

What she is doing in this video is reading from her work below. This is from Amanda Wells website (before she pulled it down).

What is worth noting is her webinar engagement is on the 16th of November “with Ps Amanda Anticliffe C3 Sydney“. So it appears C3 Church leadership and college lecturers know of Amanda Wells and see her as a legitimate Christian minister. That should speak volumes in regards to the Christian character and poor quality of education at C3 and it’s colleges.

To get an idea of airbrushed Amanda’s ministry of gimmickry, read the below article.

Amanda’s November news

 Hope this finds everyone doing wonderfully well as we are now coming up to Christmas!

It has been a great year and I am excited with all that’s been happening! I spent some days in Sydney at the Asian Pacific Conference and although totally full on it was an amazing time with so many pastors and leaders from our Asian Pacific Nations and the worship was amazing!
Then I was back down to Sydney for CRE8 Sydney, a 2 day Business Conference. I was a key speaker with Distinguished Prof Graham Clarke Laureate, the creator of the bionic ear. I had the privilege of spending one hour with this humble man and ask him one on one questions I wouldn’t get to normally ask!

It was an amazing 2 days, full on and I made so many kingdom connections with business men and women from all over Australia. This conference was certainly a highlight! I then came home for 36 hours and flew down to Sydney again for another 2 days.

The last 42 days have been nothing less than awesome … Let me explain!  

The Lord had spoken to me to start to train people, and so many of my products have been turned now into workbook manuals with CD/ DVDʼs, you can see on the website the new stock. I am now also in the process of putting these manuals into E-books for purchase online and also my CDʼs and DVDʼs as podcasts for purchase also.

Not only that, but I started a coaching course called, ʻPassion to Process to Product in 90 Daysʼ and the testimonyʼs have been unbelievable.

I have a passion to leave a legacy where I can inspire a whole lot of people to an authentic walk with Jesus Christ, and to fulfill the unique call that is on their life, that they would not have experienced had I not connected with them.

Or you could say my mission is that when I touch a life I can make the call of God more possible, credible, fun, and inspirational.

This course is all about creating sparring partners to make us sharper!

PASSION TO PROCESS TO PRODUCT in 90 DAYS

If you are not fulfilling your assignment, then you are fulfilling someone elseʼs and although we are all created to serve, we must always remember we all have an assignment that was commissioned just for us personally, and we must complete it.

Each one of us are hard wired to excel and to manifest something extraordinary in the universe. When we are clear about what you want to show up in our life or the assignment on our life, then we have the power to attract it.

To do this we must begin to be intentional, so as to make things manifest in our lives.

This is called CONVERGENCE!!! Where our passion plus gifts, talents and abilities come together, or converge together to move us into our God given assignment and purpose

We are in WAR!! This new war is a financial one! The world is in crisis, our families, our finances, but each of us have within us the solution to every problem that presents itself, even before it arrives.

We were given a land of promise, its not an etherial land, its real and in it are things we can use to create wealth/ weapons in this new war, BUT so many have not done what Joel 3 v 10 says ʻ beat your plowshares into swordsʼ, and the reason is because we have not recognised we are in a new season & every new season needs new implements! We are no longer in the age of agriculture but sadly were still being taught ʻold modelsʼ!

So I have designed a mentoring program for you, where you will be in a position after 90 days to recognise your passion and FOCUS, with great CLARITY, and the BEST solution that will help you QUICKLY reach your GOALS and DREAMS, and create the PRODUCT that will put you on the way to creating wealth

Youʼll have access to our core, foundational training material to help you elevate your success to the next level. You will also have access to some of the greatest PEAK PERFORMERS today. Those in marketing, business, accountants, strategic thinkers, those in commodities, personal developers and more…..

What does the 90 days include?

Weekly modules to accelerate your assignment…

Video teachings, audio teachings In- depth questions for you to answer that will help move you into your assignment and out of a boring existence Weekly Webinars with opportunities to be in the ʻhot seatʼ Power call phone calls to answer questions…

You will be helped to start a business, or investments, to find your niche market Only 20 places every 90 days so you and I will work alongside each other.

Still not convinced???

You should consider this an investment, and a wise investment at that! It is not just listening to a CD, but this is training, and you have a personal trainer to help you get into peak condition, so you finish the race as a peak performer!

What Students Are Saying?

“Just the first week has really been an amazing week…” -John

“I have had so many creative ideas in the first week, most are in the development of different aspects utilizing current and newly acquired intellectual knowledge for profit through the internet including eBook production and video marketing. And another idea from this week is for a new ministry website…” – Karen

“It’s only been 3 weeks and the transformation in my mind is incredible. My mind has never stopped working as creative ideas come to me almost like a stream flowing. My husband even said, honey you are talking about too many ideas can you stop and chose which ever you really like….ha, ha….As I listened to the podcasts later guess I canʼt sleep, my mind has gone to work right away and I created a marketing plan for one of those creative ideas that came to me…”  – Karen Y

Examples of Modules:

Finding your passion & Converging your gifts/ talents and abilities and producing personal mastery to produce wealth, Charity + Enterprise. Modules on, How to hear God, personality profiling, how to be a great leader & work & lead a team, the right business for you, how to develop a great business plan & a marketing plan, investing, branding, joint ventures, how to use social media & how to reprogram your mind to think and attract wealth and so much more!!!!

Our aim in the 90 days is to walk with you hand in hand. We only have a limited number of students at a time and it is so I can guide you and coach you along the way. Each week we have podcasts and webinars of people who are kingdom enforcers, these ‘experts’ I get on are actually transforming society. From the worlds largest Diamond Dealers/ Traders who belong to the worlds biggest bourses, and another expert who owns 2 airlines, 2 gold mines and is transforming Papua through Charity + Enterprise. Another is a property developer and business owner, who at the age of 68 invented a kitchen appliances and now Apps for iphone. Every expert has something to share and is in one of the seven spheres of influence and love God intensely.

I have 3 students who are becoming facilitators on the new coaching course I have Dialing into Destiny ( which is a precursor to this course) which start in 2012, and will now be in 3 Nations.

Every week you are challenged, stretched, and every week you have the opportunity for an ‘ahaaa’ moment. Find new streams of income, find a deeper walk with God, and if you are an entrepreneur find focus and understand goal setting.

Honestly this 90 day course has been so powerful that I have been blown away! Not only is THIS course one on one with me, but you get the opportunity to connect with others and brain storm together, create joint ventures and relationships that will take you to new levels!

I only take 20 people at a time and the next 90 day will start on Monday 21st November (time off for Christmas). You can even pay it off over 3 months

Go to http://www.wellsministries.com for more info.

NEWS

After a lot of thinking and praying, I am in the process of setting up 2 new coaching courses. One will be a 7 week precursory course to the 90 day day course. I have facilitators who will help with the 7 week course, there will be podcasts and weekly teachings and power calls. The other course I am now working on and will start in the New Year will be a 12 month mastermind program. Why? I have seen such transformation in my 90 day community that I don’t want to see them start and then just hope they fly alright, if they want they can keep the flow for 12 months and some of my experts have said they will help track them! So we don’t just set you up, but I will hold your hand and one on one we will work through until you understand how you can be positioned in the marketplace in whichever sphere of influence God has placed you and you transform your sphere and become a solutionist, as we see His kingdom extended.

For students who are doing PPP in 90 days now you will get a special introductory price. We will have podcasts, webinars and experts who will help you in every area personally. This is an amazing opportunity in this Mastermind Mastery, as we will have limited places.

November

11th Till 13th Coolum AOG Womenʼs Conference

16th Webinar with Ps Amanda Anticliffe C3 Sydney

27th till 28th COC Church and Womenʼs Christmas Breakup

Toukley and Cessnok

December

4th South Burnett Ministries Kingaroy

Would you like Amanda to come and visit next year?

Please email or call on

Amandawellsministries@gmail.com

Or

0417795256

Hope this finds everyone doing wonderfully well as we are now coming up to Christmas!

It has been a great year and I am excited with all that’s been happening! I spent some days in Sydney at the Asian Pacific Conference and although totally full on it was an amazing time with so many pastors and leaders from our Asian Pacific Nations and the worship was amazing!

Then I was back down to Sydney for CRE8 Sydney, a 2 day Business Conference. I was a key speaker with Distinguished Prof Graham Clarke Laureate, the creator of the bionic ear. I had the privilege of spending one hour with this humble man and ask him one on one questions I wouldn’t get to normally ask!

It was an amazing 2 days, full on and I made so many kingdom connections with business men and women from all over Australia. This conference was certainly a highlight! I then came home for 36 hours and flew down to Sydney again for another 2 days.

The last 42 days have been nothing less than awesome … Let me explain!  

The Lord had spoken to me to start to train people, and so many of my products have been turned now into workbook manuals with CD/ DVDʼs, you can see on the website the new stock. I am now also in the process of putting these manuals into E-books for purchase online and also my CDʼs and DVDʼs as podcasts for purchase also.

Not only that, but I started a coaching course called, ʻPassion to Process to Product in 90 Daysʼ and the testimonyʼs have been unbelievable.

I have a passion to leave a legacy where I can inspire a whole lot of people to an authentic walk with Jesus Christ, and to fulfill the unique call that is on their life, that they would not have experienced had I not connected with them.

Or you could say my mission is that when I touch a life I can make the call of God more possible, credible, fun, and inspirational.

This course is all about creating sparring partners to make us sharper!

PASSION TO PROCESS TO PRODUCT in 90 DAYS

If you are not fulfilling your assignment, then you are fulfilling someone elseʼs and although we are all created to serve, we must always remember we all have an assignment that was commissioned just for us personally, and we must complete it.

Each one of us are hard wired to excel and to manifest something extraordinary in the universe. When we are clear about what you want to show up in our life or the assignment on our life, then we have the power to attract it.

To do this we must begin to be intentional, so as to make things manifest in our lives.

This is called CONVERGENCE!!! Where our passion plus gifts, talents and abilities come together, or converge together to move us into our God given assignment and purpose

We are in WAR!! This new war is a financial one! The world is in crisis, our families, our finances, but each of us have within us the solution to every problem that presents itself, even before it arrives.

We were given a land of promise, its not an etherial land, its real and in it are things we can use to create wealth/ weapons in this new war, BUT so many have not done what Joel 3 v 10 says ʻ beat your plowshares into swordsʼ, and the reason is because we have not recognised we are in a new season & every new season needs new implements! We are no longer in the age of agriculture but sadly were still being taught ʻold modelsʼ!

So I have designed a mentoring program for you, where you will be in a position after 90 days to recognise your passion and FOCUS, with great CLARITY, and the BEST solution that will help you QUICKLY reach your GOALS and DREAMS, and create the PRODUCT that will put you on the way to creating wealth

Youʼll have access to our core, foundational training material to help you elevate your success to the next level. You will also have access to some of the greatest PEAK PERFORMERS today. Those in marketing, business, accountants, strategic thinkers, those in commodities, personal developers and more…..

What does the 90 days include?

Weekly modules to accelerate your assignment…

Video teachings, audio teachings In- depth questions for you to answer that will help move you into your assignment and out of a boring existence Weekly Webinars with opportunities to be in the ʻhot seatʼ Power call phone calls to answer questions…

You will be helped to start a business, or investments, to find your niche market Only 20 places every 90 days so you and I will work alongside each other.

Still not convinced???

You should consider this an investment, and a wise investment at that! It is not just listening to a CD, but this is training, and you have a personal trainer to help you get into peak condition, so you finish the race as a peak performer!

What Students Are Saying?

“Just the first week has really been an amazing week…” -John

“I have had so many creative ideas in the first week, most are in the development of different aspects utilizing current and newly acquired intellectual knowledge for profit through the internet including eBook production and video marketing. And another idea from this week is for a new ministry website…” – Karen

“It’s only been 3 weeks and the transformation in my mind is incredible. My mind has never stopped working as creative ideas come to me almost like a stream flowing. My husband even said, honey you are talking about too many ideas can you stop and chose which ever you really like….ha, ha….As I listened to the podcasts later guess I canʼt sleep, my mind has gone to work right away and I created a marketing plan for one of those creative ideas that came to me…”  – Karen Y

Examples of Modules:

Finding your passion & Converging your gifts/ talents and abilities and producing personal mastery to produce wealth, Charity + Enterprise. Modules on, How to hear God, personality profiling, how to be a great leader & work & lead a team, the right business for you, how to develop a great business plan & a marketing plan, investing, branding, joint ventures, how to use social media & how to reprogram your mind to think and attract wealth and so much more!!!!

Our aim in the 90 days is to walk with you hand in hand. We only have a limited number of students at a time and it is so I can guide you and coach you along the way. Each week we have podcasts and webinars of people who are kingdom enforcers, these ‘experts’ I get on are actually transforming society. From the worlds largest Diamond Dealers/ Traders who belong to the worlds biggest bourses, and another expert who owns 2 airlines, 2 gold mines and is transforming Papua through Charity + Enterprise. Another is a property developer and business owner, who at the age of 68 invented a kitchen appliances and now Apps for iphone. Every expert has something to share and is in one of the seven spheres of influence and love God intensely.

I have 3 students who are becoming facilitators on the new coaching course I have Dialing into Destiny ( which is a precursor to this course) which start in 2012, and will now be in 3 Nations.

Every week you are challenged, stretched, and every week you have the opportunity for an ‘ahaaa’ moment. Find new streams of income, find a deeper walk with God, and if you are an entrepreneur find focus and understand goal setting.

Honestly this 90 day course has been so powerful that I have been blown away! Not only is THIS course one on one with me, but you get the opportunity to connect with others and brain storm together, create joint ventures and relationships that will take you to new levels!

I only take 20 people at a time and the next 90 day will start on Monday 21st November (time off for Christmas). You can even pay it off over 3 months

Go to http://www.wellsministries.com for more info.

NEWS

After a lot of thinking and praying, I am in the process of setting up 2 new coaching courses. One will be a 7 week precursory course to the 90 day day course. I have facilitators who will help with the 7 week course, there will be podcasts and weekly teachings and power calls. The other course I am now working on and will start in the New Year will be a 12 month mastermind program. Why? I have seen such transformation in my 90 day community that I don’t want to see them start and then just hope they fly alright, if they want they can keep the flow for 12 months and some of my experts have said they will help track them! So we don’t just set you up, but I will hold your hand and one on one we will work through until you understand how you can be positioned in the marketplace in whichever sphere of influence God has placed you and you transform your sphere and become a solutionist, as we see His kingdom extended.

For students who are doing PPP in 90 days now you will get a special introductory price. We will have podcasts, webinars and experts who will help you in every area personally. This is an amazing opportunity in this Mastermind Mastery, as we will have limited places.

November

11th Till 13th Coolum AOG Womenʼs Conference

16th Webinar with Ps Amanda Anticliffe C3 Sydney

27th till 28th COC Church and Womenʼs Christmas Breakup

Toukley and Cessnok

December

4th South Burnett Ministries Kingaroy

Would you like Amanda to come and visit next year?

Please email or call on

Amandawellsministries@gmail.com Or 0417795256

Source: Amanda Wells, Amanda Wells Ministries, http://www.wellsministries.com/novembernewsletter.htm. (Accessed 2012.)

Copyright ©2012 All text and photographs to Amanda Wells Ministries

C3 Women’s Conference: A Leaf out of whose book?

Who is Dr. Caroline Leaf?

Once again, absurdity has gripped the leadership of C3 Church Oxford Falls. This time,  Chris Pringle will be introducing yet another spurious ‘speaker’ to many Christian women who attend their Everywoman conferences worldwide.

Chris Pringle openly endorses Caroline Leaf and has invited Dr. Leaf to be keynote speaker at the 2014 EveryWoman’s Conference

Source: Everywoman Events, My C3 Church, http://www2.myc3church.net/category/everywoman-events,
Image 1: http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/images/664%20X%20360_EW%20WEB%20BANNERS.png,
Image 2: http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/images/EW%202014_980%20X%20370%20SPECIAL%20GUEST.png. Accessed 11/09/2014. 

Who does Caroline Leaf endorse and what does she believe in?

ASSOCIATIONS & ENDORSEMENTS

Let’s see where Dr. Caroline Leaf begins her ascent up the celebrity speaker ladder within the Evangelical Industrial Complex. Let’s start from the lowest rung to the top and see where it takes us.

Marilyn Hickey

Here is Dr. Caroline Leaf on a show with the the infamous WOF heretic Marilyn Hickey (both she and Phil Pringle sit on David Yonggi’s Church Growth International board).

As you can see, Dr. Caroline Leaf spouts a lot of New Age nonsense that cannot be backed up in her field of work. What are your thoughts on this claim in the above video?

“Your health improves as you try to understand your spouse. Your intelligence and health improve when you actually try to understand the opposite sex.”

Gloria Copeland

Here  we have Dr. Caroline Leaf praising the Copelands and being embraced by Gloria Copeland (wife of the notorious Ken Copeland). Click the thumbnail to see a larger picture.

Wow! Surrounded by royalty! @commanderkellie@terrisavellefoy and the amazing Gloria Copeland!

Source: drCarolineleaf, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/p3CdAvhzxm/?modal=true. (Accessed 19/09/2014.)

proof_InstagramLeafAndCopeland_19-09-2014

Sid Roth

Once again, Dr. Caroline Leaf has no problem associating herself with the fringe lunatics of the heretical camps, those of “Fractured Fairy Tale” fame on “Fighting For The Faith”.

Here’s Caroline Leaf on Sid Roth’s “It’s Supernatural” program. Sid Roth was stunned when he said that Caroline Leaf told him that “we can change our genes” (1:50).

He then turns to Caroline and says, “But you say, according to the latest brain research [Caroline nods approvingly], if you follow what Jesus said, you can change your genes”. Said Roth: “That’s just so amazing!” Caroline’s reponse? “I know. It’s phenomenal.”

Whacko’s

It’s also disturbing she would teach alongside notorious “Christian” whackos like Joshua Mills, Stacey Campbell and the laughable Patricia King at an event called the School of Daniel. This is,

” […] a 3-week intensive training school focusing on topics such as: The supernatural, personal transformation, spiritual transformation, cultural transformation, leadership, the kingdom of God, kingdom finance & kingdom business. It will feature speakers such as: Shawn & Michelle Gabie, James Goll, Sammy Robinson, Dr. Caroline Leaf, Shawn Bolz, Joshua Mills, Patricia King & Stacey Campbell.”

Source: About, School of Daniel, http://www.schoolofdaniel.com/info/index.php, Accessed 26/10/2014.

DOCTRINE & PRACTICE

Furthermore, she is starting to attract valid criticisms online. One such critic is Dr C. Edward Pitt. To end, we have provided part one of his articles for our audiences to read and other articles he has written exposing the strange suppositions of Caroline Leaf.

Dr Caroline Leaf – Serious questions, few answers (Part 1)
Posted on August 4, 2013

Caroline Leaf. The name is popping up more and more around Christian circles. I was curious to hear her speak, since as a Christian and a (family) physician, I like to know how people integrate science and spirituality. So I took the opportunity to drive down to Kings Christian Church on the Gold Coast to hear what she had to say.

I left with more questions than answers.  And some serious concerns.

The following blog posts are a discussion on some of the points that she raised. I simply don’t have the time to go through all of them, although I’m seriously considering whether to do a formal review and response to her teaching.

I had to divide up the original post into three parts to make it more manageable. Here’s part 1, in which I review her academic qualifications, her link of thoughts and illness, our innate wiring, and the myth of the mini-brain.

Part 2 of this post will look further at the pecking order of the mind and brain, some miscellaneous issues, and her ‘professional’ opinion on ADHD.

Part 3 will examine her claim that “Toxic thoughts are sin” and why such a statement is incongruent with the Christian faith.

IS SHE A COGNITIVE NEUROSCIENTIST?

For a start, she was introduced as a cognitive neuroscientist. Her CV lists her degrees as a Bachelor of Science, Masters in Speech Therapy and Audiology, and a PhD in Communication Pathology. She did not advise where she has tenure or does her research. Her CV lists guest lectures at a few Universities (Wits, University of Pretoria, University of Cape Town, University of Western Cape Annual Education Conference, SASHLA, Rotary Foundation), but no tenure.

Admittedly, the definition of a cognitive neuroscientist is somewhat vague (http://careersinpsychology.org/becoming-a-cognitive-neuroscientist/) but the term ‘cognitive neuroscientist’ confers the idea that one is actively involved in cognitive neuroscientific research, or at least in the recent past.

So the question remains: is she really a cognitive neuroscientist, or is she just a woman with a PhD that reads a lot?

THE CORRELATION OF ILLNESS AND THOUGHT

The next thing to grab my attention was her statement: “75 to 98% of ALL illness is related to our thought life.” Somehow I doubt that. The influence of stress is high.  But I am a GP – I see sick people everyday, on the coal face, before they are collected in subspecialist clinics, or improve spontaneously. It’s a real stretch to ascribe stress to more than 30%. Looking at her book ‘Who Switched Off My Brain’ (Leaf 2009, p15), she says that 80% of all diseases are the result of our thought lives. So her own figures are conflicting. (The other thing is that, for a PhD recipient, she has poorly referenced her book!)

Besides, stress causes illness, but I’m not yet satisfied she’s proven that ‘negative’ thought and stress are the same thing.

THE MINI-BRAIN

She also claimed that the brain and the heart connect to every cell in your body. Again, it’s a bit of a stretch. Every cell needs to be bathed in nutrients from the blood which in turn is connected to the heart, and nerves are every where.  But there are many cells that are not innervated directly.

The only way that the brain or the heart are connected to every cell is simply because, technically, every cell is connected to every other cell. Like if everyone in a church stood up and held hands, the man in the front row would be “connected” to the woman in the back.

But she went further on her theory, by claiming that the heart has a mini-brain that directly influences the real brain – by making moral decisions on its own, and that it is part of our conscience. She justified her statement by saying that the heart has 40,000 interconnected nerve cells, and the heart is directly connected to the brain. But on that same logic, my rectum could be a mini-brain and be part of my conscience.

She alluded to the effect of ANF, atrial natriuretic factor. There are actually three natriuretic peptides. ANF, produced by the top two chambers of the heart, actually regulates blood pressure (http://www.cvphysiology.com/Blood%20Pressure/BP017.htm). If it has an effect on thought, it is secondary, not primary.

WIRED FOR OPTIMISM?

She also states that we are wired for optimism, and that emotions like fear are learned. That doesn’t make sense since I have seen research that shows a newborn baby is wired for pleasure and emotions like disgust. These pathways are developed and refined during childhood, but we are born with built-in templates for basic emotion.

I will have more in the next 24 hours, including her statement on the pecking order of the mind and brain, some miscellaneous issues, and her ‘professional’ opinion on ADHD.

REFERENCES

Leaf, C. (2009). Who Switched Off My Brain? Controlling toxic thoughts and emotions. Southlake, TX, USA, Inprov, Ltd.

Source: By Dr C. Edward Pitt, Dr Caroline Leaf – Serious questions, few answers (Part 1), Dr C. Edward Pitt, http://cedwardpitt.com/2013/08/04/dr-caroline-leaf-serious-questions-few-answers-part-1/, Published 04/08/2013. (Accessed 26/10/2014.)

You can read more article on Caroline Leaf on his website:

Dr Caroline Leaf – Serious questions, few answers (Part 2)

Dr Caroline Leaf and the shotgun approach

Dr Caroline Leaf and the cart-before-the-horse conundrum

Dr Caroline Leaf and the myth of the myth of multitasking

Dr Caroline Leaf – Exacerbating the Stigma of Mental Illness

Labels – the good, the bad, and the ugly

Or you can read Dr C. Edward Pitt’s book exposing Caroline Leaf’s teachings:

Hold That Thought – Reappraising The Work of Dr Caroline Leaf

How many women will pay to go to this conference to see Dr. Caroline Leaf, a celebrity ‘life coach’ posing as a Christian speaker? That same speaker being one who will only to lead her listeners into false doctrine? And the C3 pastors and leaders, who should know better, those men who continue to allow women to usurp the role of pastor, choose to remain silent.

In closing, with C3 promoting a ‘wannabe’ Christian speaker, have they done their homework? No! Instead what we see again and again, ‘impastors’ like Chris Pringle at these events doing what Jesus calls the “blind leading the blind”. In the promo Chris for this event Chris Pringle runs with the motto, “Now I See”. We decided to offer this reality check to Chris Pringle.

No U Dont

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