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We at C3 Church Watch have already questioned if the typo in Phil Pringle’s book Top 10 Qualities of a Great Leader, was a typo or not.
“Today, Dr. Phil Pringle oversees the approximately 1,200 churches that make up Christian City Church International throughout the world, a significant proportion planted directly from Christian City Church Oxford Falls.” - About the Author DR. PHIL PRINGLE, Top 10 Qualities of a Great Leader, 2007, pg. 227.
We discussed how flippant Phil Pringle is with his church statistics in this article:
Does Phil Pringle Distort Church Statistics For Personal Gain?
We have counted that he has 243 churches. Pringle updated his profile on his website last year, stating he ‘oversees the approximately 258 churches’, while in his services promotes he has ‘nearly five hundred’ churches in his movement. A commenter on C3 Church Watch has stated, ‘He [Phil Pringle] nearly always says it’s around 500′ (see comment section in the above link).
Phil Pringle released a new book last year called ‘Hope’ in 2011. Pringle writes (emphasis mine),
“He [Pringle] has overseen the planting of new churches in major cities throughout the world. Today, there are more than 300 C3 Churches around the globe, which collectively make up C3 Church Global, with a combined membership of more than 75,000. In addition to its renowned teaching ministry, C3 has an internationally acclaimed, accredited education program that includes kindergarten through high school, and offers baccalaureate degrees in disciplines that include:
- The School of Ministry, which trains ministers and develops powerful ministries.
- The School of Creative Arts, focusing in all disciplines of the arts.
- The Pastoral Care and Counseling College.
- The International School of the Church, which trains pastors and teams to plant churches and take the Word of God to new levels of growth.” - Phil Pringle, Hope, About The Author, 2011.
This information is not true. Previous articles have revealed that C3 does NOT have over 300 churches. What is also untrue is that NONE of his colleges offer courses that supply “baccalaureate degrees”. The last degree students finished at the end of 2009 and graduated in summer school, February 2010. The graduation ceremony was in April and May. C3 Colleges no longer were running any more degree classes onsite in 2010. Why?
PERSONAL TESTIMONY
When I was involved at C3 Creative Arts College, C3 tried to establish an arts degree program. I was guaranteed that this was obtainable if I signed up for the arts degree program. They failed to get their program recognised.
However, they resulted in supplying creative arts students a theology degree program. However, when the Sydney College of Divinity investigated C3 College’s conduct on their theology degree program, they found many problems.
C3 were not to continue their theology degree program any more. I was with the last batch of students to obtain a degree from the C3 College.
PROOF C3 COLLEGES DO NOT PROVIDE DEGREE PROGRAMS
If none believe what I say, below is what the colleges offer. Check out their college website here: http://www.c3college.com/main/. You will find that none offer “baccalaureate degrees”.
“COURSES OFFERED: ADVANCED DIPLOMA, DIPLOMA AND CERTIFICATE IV OF CREATIVE ARTS IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, SPECIALISING IN ACTING AND THEATRECRAFT” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/acting-and-theatrecraft, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
“COURSES OFFERED: ADVANCED DIPLOMA, DIPLOMA AND CERTIFICATE IV OF CREATIVE ARTS IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, SPECIALISING IN CONTEMPORARY MUSIC / VOCALS AND WORSHIP LEADING” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/contemporary-music-vocals-and-worship-leading, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
“COURSES OFFERED: ADVANCED DIPLOMA, DIPLOMA AND CERTIFICATE IV OF CREATIVE ARTS IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, SPECIALISING IN CONTEMPORARY SONGWRITING” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/contemporary-song-writing, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
“COURSES OFFERED: ADVANCED DIPLOMA, DIPLOMA AND CERTIFICATE IV OF CREATIVE ARTS IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, SPECIALISING IN CONTEMPORARY VISUAL ARTS” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/contemporary-visual-arts, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
“COURSES OFFERED: ADVANCED DIPLOMA, DIPLOMA AND CERTIFICATE IV OF CREATIVE ARTS IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, SPECIALISING IN CONTEMPORARY DANCE” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/contemporary-dance, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
“COURSES OFFERED: ADVANCED DIPLOMA, DIPLOMA AND CERTIFICATE IV OF CREATIVE ARTS IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, SPECIALISING IN SCREEN PRODUCTION” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/screen-production, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
C3′s Creative College reveals their Creative Arts Core Program does not offer “baccalaureate degrees”.
“Core Studies are on Tuesday and Thursdays in Certificate IV and Diploma and on Tuesdays in the Advanced Diploma, leaving the other days free for training in your chosen area of skill.”
Instead they offer,
“Core areas of study for all students over the one year full-time equivalent programme include:
Certificate IV
- Christianity in Culture
- Introduction to Worship
- Personal Management
- Industry Knowledge
- Life in Ministry
- Church Services and Events
- Working in a Team
- New Testament Survey
- Old Testament Survey
- The Book of Genesis
- Bible Interpretation
Diploma
- Models of Creativity
- Communication & Conflict Resolution
- Discovering Your Purpose
- Copyright
- Marriage and Family
- The Book of Hebrews
- Cross Cultural Ministry
- School of the Holy Spirit
- Advanced Ministry Principles
- Survey of Christian Doctrine
- Christian Ethics
Advanced Diploma
- Advanced Leadership
- Project Management
- Training Others
- Church Planting
- Pastoral Theology
- Theology and Film” - C3 College, http://www.c3college.com/main/creative/creative-arts-core-program, (Accessed 07/02/2012).
The C3 College Creative Stream (aka SCA) does not offer “baccalaureate degrees”. The Leadership and Ministry Stream are no different. In Year 1, students get a Certificate IV in Leadership and Ministry courses.
In Year 2, students get a Diploma:
In Year 3, students get an Advanced Diploma. 
‘Youth and Young Adults’ and ‘Pastoral Care’ is an elective within the Leadership and Ministry Stream. They do not offer “baccalaureate degrees”.
His online college and night schools also offer no “baccalaureate degrees”. No information can be found here at Night School (http://www.c3college.com/main/home/night-school) or C3 College Online (http://c3collegeonline.com/).
Therefore, we can conclude that Phil Pringle is misleading his readers into believing he offers quality education.
PRINGLE PURPOSELY CONFUSING READERS
It is not right for Phil Pringle to lump the educational quality of Oxford Falls Grammar School (OFGS) with his lack of quality education in his colleges:
“accredited education program that includes kindergarten through high school, and offers baccalaureate degrees in disciplines that include…”
OFGS may have students attend C3 Colleges after graduation and obtain scholarships. However, the educational quality is very different. Pringle’s 1985 Prospectus for his Ministry Training College says,
“We are not a “theological college” though we teach theology, nor even a “bible college” per se, but a ministry training college where students learn biblically how to be effective in the work force of Jesus.” - Ministry Training College Prospectus, 1985, pg 2.
An example of poor education for both colleges are as follows (more articles will be provided later):
C3 College & Dave Sumrall Teaching ‘All Sorts Of Evil’
C3 College: Misrepresenting The Gospel?
C3 has a track record of inviting some of the worst Christian teachers to speak at their colleges which they consider to be “most gifted and experienced ministers“.
CONCLUSION
If anyone has any information about the ISC, please email us at c3churchwatch@hotmail.com. We would like to look into this further if possible.
In relation to this, Pringle has misled his readers to believe…
1. That his church colleges offer “baccalaureate degrees” in:
a) School of Ministry.
b) School of Creative Arts “focusing in all disciplines of the arts”.
c) The Pastoral Care and Counseling College.
d) The International School of the Church.
2. That he oversees 300 C3 Churches when facts reveal this not to be the case.
It’s been more than a year for Pringle to know that his colleges do not run degree programs. We have constantly demonstrated that Pringle is flippant with the truth about the number of churches in his movement for his own convenience. If this is not intentional, then Pringle needs to stop failing the high standard he sets in his C3 Movement.
Pringle needs to explain why he misinforms readers about himself in his books.
If you feel lead to pray for Phil Pringle and the C3 Movement, please do. Please pray for Phil Pringle to be an accountable and responsible leader.
Are you seriously using a single “About the author” as the basis of this article? God forbid they might forget to update it before sending the book out! Fortunately, Christians tend to have grace towards fellow Christians. Christians do. You don’t.
It’s OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!
“However, Pringle has a rather inflated view on his church leadership that surpasses the leadership of other church denominations. That’s why he runs colleges on leadership and has a new leadership course up and running.”
So… no one should teach leadership classes anywhere?
Whoops. Guess I saw something that wasn’t really there and ran with it. Maybe you are an influence on me, after all.
I’m not the one making all these allegations about these men of God. Many people have tried to correct you, but of course they’re all in error, it couldn’t possibly be yourself who is wrong!
“Do you go to C3 Dibs? Are you a pastor? Your evasion of such a simple question tells me you are.”
What the hell? You ask a question and in the exact same post tell me to stop evading the question? Give a guy time to answer!
And to answer these: Yes I go to C3. No I’m not a pastor.
As for using my real name, are you mocking me? My parents made that decision before I was born, I could hardly ask them to give me a more conventional name so that, decades later, you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Dib and snakey, Fot your info I was saved at the same church as Phil and Chris Pringle , in fact about two months before them.A lot of things Phil says are not correct.
Hi C3 watch. I went through the SCA college in 1996-1997. I have since gone on to study at recognized Universities and in comparison, the standard of teaching at SCA was woefully inadequate and not at all in-line with a serious tertiary institution. Jeff Crabtree (the head of SCA) was frequently late for class and had the disrespect to walk in to a class full of students with no shoes and then laugh about it. Can you imagine someone doing this in the professional academic world? God no.
He constantly drip-fed us the line that he and his “team” were working on “accreditation” which, to date, has never happened. Can’t say I am surprised. No serious educational body is going to endorse SCA. It’s a joke!
His side-kick at the time, Richard Fowler, used to get carried away doing prayer sessions for particular students. I used to frequently comment to my class-mates “is this prayer college or arts college?” I used to walk out midway through these sessions because it was always the same people being prayed for. I had paid good money for the classes and to see Fowler resort to the “prayer session” because he’d prepared nothing for the class was infuriating. Again, try this in the professional academic world and you’d be out of a job in no time.
After some years, I was asked to teach at SCA. The “going rate” at the time was $20 an hour. To bolster such a poor rate, the argument used was: “you’ve got to treat this like ministry, you need to do this because you believe in the vision.”
Of course, I turned it down and was insulted to be offered that. On the one hand, you’ve got Pringle talking “excellence” from the pulpit but typical, he can’t see fit to have his own house in order where this is concerned and pay his teachers/trainers an “excellent” rate.
What a joke. $20 an hour is what I would have been paid to work at the local McDonalds. I laughed with my wife at the time that the cleaner at CCC would earn more than a highly trained specialized teacher working in the college. I don’t know if that is still the rate but I suspect it’s well below the “standard” for a comparable position at a University or TAFE college. Which is why, generally speaking, the people working at SCA are the types that probably can’t get a job in the “real” academic world.
Suffice to say, I now have nothing to do with CCC. Phil Pringle is just akin to a used-car salesman, using every little “trick in the book” to get bums on seats and people in the doors. I am not surprised he says there are “1200″ churches when the reality is different. Whatever it takes eh Phil? There is little that is credible about anything he is associated with. It might look good on the surface but there is no depth to any of it, as can easily be discerned by taking a good hard look for oneself.