JD Hall on Modern Day Montanism – A Critique of the Charismatic Movement



Whether you hold to cessationism or continuationism, sound theology matters. In this lecture you will hear a clear presentation exposing an ancient heresy invading Christianity today.

“JD Hall recently spoke at the NorCal Fire conference in California. The following is audio from his sermon, Modern Day Montanism. This is a critique of the charismatic movement, and defends the doctrine of Cessationism, particularly in regards to new prophecy.”

 Source: Pulpit & Pen; contributed by Jeff Maples; http://pulpitandpen.org/2016/09/17/jd-hall-on-modern-day-montanism-a-critique-of-the-charismatic-movement/
Accessed: 17/09/2016 Published: 19/09/2016

What Discernment Is and Isn’t

Another excellent article from Pulpit & Pen:


Within the Charismatic Movement, discernment is often viewed as this supernatural ability to see if the spirit which influenced something is a good spirit or a demon. That is not what true discernment is in the modern context. Others within the same movement say that discernment is a supernatural feeling you get that tells you if someone or something is sound or unsound. They treat it as if you can simply feel when something is wrong, similar to how Yoda could feel a “disturbance in the force” in the Star Wars movies. No such feeling is ever described in the Bible.

Some people, including one popular blogger, David J. Stewart, sit at their computers and write about how wrong people are on certain issues that aren’t essential while at the same time believing many heresies (or false doctrines) themselves. This isn’t true discernment, this is just hypocrisy. Further, it is an insult to those who do practice true discernment as well as the Holy Spirit, who grants the gift of discernment.

A lot of so-called evangelicals think discernment is simply about decision making. While having a sharper discernment should certainly affect your decision making, that’s not exactly what discernment is either. True discernment, as succinctly stated by Charles Spurgeon, is the ability to distinguish between right and almost right–truth from error, and orthodoxy from heresy.

False Prophets have plagued God’s People since Eden. Satan could be considered the very first heretic and the very first false teacher, intentionally leading Adam and Eve astray for shameful gain. Throughout the times leading up to Christ, many false teachers and false prophets arose, such as Balaam, Korah, and Honi ha-M’agel. This continued throughout history with people such as Arius, Pelagius, Sabellius, Macedonius, Johannes Agricola, and Joel Osteen. For every one of these, there has been an Athanasius, an Augustine, a Tertullian, a Jerome, a Melancthon, and a MacArthur–all raised up by God. The defense of the Church against heresies like Arianism and Antinomianism and the Prosperity Gospel is a practical example of discernment. Discernment’s main goal is to defend the Church from heresies, false teachers, and cults who seek to deceive members of the Church. The perfect standard for sound theology is the Bible, therefore, that is what each teacher must be judged by. Discernment should be practiced against every teacher, every doctrine, every book, and every group. The discerner determines if they are sound, and warns the Church about those who aren’t. With this discernment info, we know who to evangelize and which teachers to avoid listening to.

The Bible has a lot to say about discernment. In fact, nearly every book in the New Testament has something about discernment inside of it. The books of 2 Peter and Jude were written mainly to encourage discernment. 3 John is a book written by the Apostle John warning Gaius about a false teacher named Diotrephes. Similarly, the Apostle Paul wrote warnings against Hymenaeus, Alexander the Coppersmith, and Philetus in his two epistles to Timothy. Chapter 5 of Ephesians encourages people to practice discernment and to maintain separation from those who are not theologically sound. In Acts 17, the Church in Berea was commended for being discerning while in Revelation 2 the Church in Thyatira was rebuked for being undiscerning. Paul tells the Church in Ephesians 5:6-11 (ESV),

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

Source: Pulpit & Pen; contributed by Brandon Hines; http://pulpitandpen.org/2016/09/15/what-discernment-is-and-isnt/

Published: 15/09/2016 Accessed: 19/09/2016

‘I thought Sun Ho was a megastar’: Chew Eng Han says of church’s Crossover Project



A former member of  Kong Hee’s City Harvest Church Singapore said in a Facebook post today:

“Truth be told, I was also brainwashed in the past… many of us grew up in a church whereby the culture was one of submission and not question – for that would lead to “discipleship” because you “cannot flow” with the vision. We were taught to “look up to” and punished if we instead “looked into”.

Truth be told, when I saw the xtron financial statements, that was my first brush with the fact that perhaps all the success that was so hyped in church, including the first Asian Conference in 2008 (which should be more aptly renamed as a Sun Conference) was made up. Numbers don’t lie – they tell a story. Their actions following the questions confirmed it. The pieces began to add up.

Truth be told, I am stumbled that until this very day, I refuse to trust anyone who claims to be a shepherd – because i cannot eradicate the suspicion that behind that mask lies a different being – a reptilian or a wolf with a different agenda. A rancher teaching us on stage to give thousands but who set an example of giving from his MPA into his MPA.

Truth be told, I am sick of organised religion. As a “cell group leader” in the cell group ministry for over 10 years up to the time I left in 2011, and over the last 5 years wandering around, I found that a ministry need not be rooted in the church. The church is everywhere and we can touch lives everywhere with our message and mission, leading people to Christ in our own unique ways through the Holy Spirit. In fact, the last 5 years had been even more fruitful and prosperous than the entire 10 over years add together.

Truth be told, I have also seen enough of positions and words of praise people can give you. Because that’s also superficial – for they will suddenly call you an ingrate, a traitor, an unforgiving person and whatever their figment of imagination can make up or whatever their leaders told them – only because you stopped standing on their side.

Truth be told, the Crossover is a sham, mutated by cover up over cover ups, rebranding after rebranding after the CAD raid, emotionally manipulated in straw polls and shrill-planted executive meetings. Don’t forget the earlier pioneers who already left and gave, believing in “unequal amounts but equal sacrifice” had left you this building so that you can now say, “they have never been a part of us to comment about the case”.

Truth be told, I have already forgiven. But I had not forgotten. And truth be told, I do not think I can forget the scars of betrayal by the very people I used to look up to. Truth be told, 8 years is too short a restitution for the lives ho hee ho affected. 8 years x 3 is fair but 8 years x 7 x 7 soothes. Divide it by 21 people that makes it just right – by grace. Although my carnal soul secretly wish that the jail term be just half a day, only for the key to go missing and never found. They won’t even sincerely apologise for taking away our sacrifice, but instead took more. Some staff were thrown away like used tissue papers.

Truth be told, the silence and lack of leadership of the council of churches and some Christian groups are another disappointing act. Some of them I heard don’t want to stir s**t within the Christian community, but they chose not to let the LGBT live their peace. Is it more appropriate to take a moral stand against the LGBT and take a liberal stand towards the rancher and the geisha-the-next-whitney-houston. Star struck? I’m sure that’s not what the bible said, unless we’re reading from the NKHV. What’s the point of having a council in the first place? Rub each other’s back?

Well, truth be told, its really no thanks to the jackals. That’s my honest opinion of this saga. The lawyer says there’s no victims nor personal gains – he’s right because everyone is a culprit following the instruction of ONE mastermind squandering it all on a drunk “whitley houston” singing “You Stupid”.”

His remarks came with the following article from NewsAsia attached:

‘I thought Sun Ho was a megastar’: Chew Eng Han says of church’s Crossover Project

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C3’s very own MystiChick Vicky Simpson gives God some space.



Chris Rosebrough, on a recent Fighting For The Faith program, reviewed C3 ‘prophetess’ Vicki Simpson, as she preached at C3 San Diego. In his review Chris makes it quite clear that when Vicki Simpson gets up to speak:

“None of it is even remotely true. Every word from her mouth was totally empty. God hasn’t even spoken in this sermon as she has muzzled Him, claimed to be speaking for Him and everything she said, none of it was even biblical.”

He continues: “That was miserable, and the reason why it was miserable is because number one, she should never have been preaching, God’s Word forbids her doing what she did, she is not a pastor, the office of pastor is created by Christ and in His Church, He has made it very clear in His written word of God that only men can fill that office – yes pastor is not a title. You should understand that, it’s not at title you can just slap on to somebody, you know. This guy’s the pastor of finance? Wrong!  A pastor is an office, read your bible and you’ll see. And of course if you look at the archives of Fighting For The Faith, type in “pastor in office” I’ve done episodes of Fighting For the faith where we’ve dug deep into the biblical teaching on this, I’d recommend that.”

“So Vicki is not a pastor, she should not be preaching, she then gets up and preaches as if she hears directly from God and preaches her so-called direct revelations as if they’re bible truth and then brings out-of-context passages into bear, you know, to support the doctrine that she’s teaching from her direct revelation. Talk about a mess – this is about as “train-wrecky” as you can possibly get and who gets shoved to the side?  Christ does. And does God get to speak? Not at all. His word is absolutely made void and twisted and He is silenced while these people are chattering on – what a mess.




00:08:55 Vonda Brewer Time for Her to Dump Her “Ministry” and Repent
00:16:11 Steven Furtick Code Orange Revival Night 1 Recap
01:21:30 Sermon Review: Give God Some Space by Vicki Simpson

1 Timothy 6:12 ““Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called and about which you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.”

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Fighting For The Faith, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/9/the-rhythm-of-heresy

Accessed: 12/09/2016 Published: 15/09/2106

The Mysti-Chicks Uprising: Why the MCU is a threat to Christianity


Although Chris Rosebrough identified a few key women as the Mysti-Chicks, we consider what he was addressing was more of an uprising within the modern day Church. Here is Chris Rosebrough to explain the Mysti-Chicks:

This is why we have specifically labeled this feminist movement as the Mysti-Chicks Uprising. It is rallying women to rise up and embrace their unbiblical forms of church governance and non-Christian practices.


These are just SOME women who were and are responsible for usurping this biblical authority and causing divisions in churches around the world.

Jan Crouch
Gloria Copeland
Joyce Meyer
Wendy Alec
Beth Moore
Bobbie Houston
Lisa Bevere
Priscilla Shirer
Cindy Jacobs
Paula White
Victoria Osteen
Staci Eldridgez
Ann Voskamp
Caroline Leaf
Christine Caine
Jen Johnson
Heidi Baker
Melissa Fischer
Patricia King
Sarah Young
Kat Kerr
Vonda Brewer
LaWanda Peters
Chris Pringle
Sun Ho
Stacey Campbell
Katherine Ruonala
Amanda Wells
Lana Vowser


For 2000 years Christianity has stood on the scriptures to contend earnestly for the faith, once and for all delivered to the saints (Jude 1). When the church forgot about the authority of the scriptures, the church increasingly took on pagan practices and created alternative man-made authorities and structures.

Hence the Great Reformation.

Through Martin Luther and many that followed after him, what was restored to the church were these five essential tenants to the Christian faith.

  1. Sola Fide – by faith alone
  2. Sola Scriptura – by Scripture alone.
  3. Solus Christus – through Christ alone.
  4. Sola Gratia – grace alone.
  5. Soli Deo Gloria – glory to God alone.

Sadly, through the rise of the Charismatic/New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) cult in the twentieth century, self-appointed Apostles and Prophets also promoted the idea that women can be Apostles. One way they mainstreamed this idea was by challenging the definition of ‘ministry’. They allowed men and women to have intercessory ministries, workplace ministries, prophetic ministries, prayer ministries and children’s ministry, etc.


Women became Apostles in the NAR based on their success. False Apostles and Prophets then were able to claim women were called by God into apostolic and prophetic ministry because they had the numbers and success to prove this (see Wendy Alec of GODTV). If it wasn’t done through this manner, it was done through the NARismatic TV ministries such as TBN, GODTV and DayStar ministries where woman were given the platform to ‘minister’ to men and women on TV from their homes. Essentially they challenged the notion of God’s Word on the issues of men teaching and preaching to edify and equip the church and usurped their authority.

So what were the NAR attacking with the rise of these Apostolic/Prophetic women?

Sola Scriptura

Essentially – these women hate the word of God.
They make it very plain they do not submit to that scriptural authority and promote churches to rebel against it.

These are scriptures they reject:

[In accordance to the fall] “To the woman [God] said, “I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.“” Genesis 3:16 (Emphasis added)

“As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

Or was it from you that the word of God came? Or are you the only ones it has reached? If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.1 Corinthians 14:33-38 (Emphasis added)

“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.” 1 Timothy 2:11-14 (Emphasis added)

“In this way they can train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, managers of their households, kind, and subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be discredited.” Titus 2:4-5

Just like any cult, the MCU have crafted plausible sounding arguments using certain scriptures to justify their rebellion, which have been refuted. Other MCU leaders like Katherine Ruonala simply claim they are teachers and prophets because God the Holy Spirit spoke to them directly and called them into such offices.

Katherine Ruonala

The reason why women are called to submit like this within the church gathering is that men also must submit to their wives and be willing to give up their lives for them, the way Christ gave His life up for the church (Ephesians 5). This doctrine of submission between man and woman, husband and wife is known as complementarianism – a doctrine the church has held to for nearly two thousand years. The complementarian position is seen to uphold what has been the most traditional teaching on gender roles in the church. (You can even read on some of the early church father’s views on this topic here.)


One popular Mysti-Chicks Uprising prophet, Lisa Bevere, recently spoke on the Charisma Podcast Network. She talked about how she fell asleep at her laptop and when she awoke, God the Holy Spirit spoke to her about God’s love. She claimed that through the Holy Spirit she wrote her latest book ‘Without Rival’. With her prophetic office established (because the Holy Spirit spoke to her), the presenter proceeded to ask Lisa Bevere about her thoughts on women in the church.

Lisa stated,

“When the church tells the daughters that they can find their value anywhere and everywhere except for in the house of God, then there is a problem. Somehow, I don’t know how this translates, but somehow men have really almost embraced a- it’s hard to say this- we’re kept almost like a Muslim Christianity where women have value everywhere except the house of God. They’re like kind of redeemed but not fully redeemed. Adam is fully redeemed. Eve is partially redeemed. And so what you see is a gender competition going on. You hear comments from major, MAJOR, church planting leaders say things like, ‘Women are gullible, they’re unfit, they’re easily deceived, they take the words of Paul and distort their application.’”

Source: Lisa Bevere, Without Rival with Lisa Bevere (56), Charismatic Podcast Network, https://charismapodcastnetwork.com/shows/charismaconnection/ae0bc20c82092bd92388aeab1fc3e2c3, Published 14/08/2016. (Accessed 11/09/2016.) (Emphasis ours.)

By Lisa’s admission she is a false prophet. This is because she acknowledged that Christian leaders do claim that women who want to find Lisa’s unbiblical feminist values “take the words of Paul and distort their application”. This is because Lisa is ignoring Paul’s clear instruction about her role in the church. While Lisa Bevere takes on the office of ‘Prophet’ in the above CPN broadcast, she is refusing to “acknowledge that the things [Paul is] writing to [her] are a command of the Lord”. Notice the strong rebuke the Apostle Paul makes against false prophets like Lisa Bevere:

“Or was it from you that the word of God came? Or are you the only ones it has reached? If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.

In other words, Lisa Bevere is to be rejected by the church for her blatant disregard of God’s Word as a self-appointed prophet. This kind of hatred towards God, his teaching and His Church are very common within the MCU.


One of the MCU leaders is Beth Moore. She wrote an article titled ‘It’s Hunting Season for Heretics‘, where she took offense to a young woman who called her a “false teacher”. However, in her article, Moore accused Christians of going on “a witch hunt. Only, instead of witches, it’s heretics and false teachers.”

The concept that women like Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer or Bobbie Houston are witches is laughable. However, now that Beth Moore put that concept out there, we started researching what the bible teaches on witchcraft. We were shocked to discover the fruit of the Mysti-Chicks Uprising is exactly that: witchcraft.

Heed the words of the prophet Samuel to the rebellious King Saul:

“For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.” 1 Samuel 15:23 (Emphasis ours)

Likewise, the Mysti-Chicks Uprising have “rejected the word of the LORD” and usurped (just like the Pharisees), the rightful authorities within the church. Just as King Saul’s rebellion led him to seek out the Witch/Medium of Endor, requesting that she summon the dead to counsel him (1 Samuel 28), so too are women like Beth Moore embracing witch-craft in the name of Jesus to usurp biblical authority for their own selfish gains. Here is God describing these occult practices:

“There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to theLORD. And because of these abominations the LORD your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before the LORD your God, for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do this.”Deuteronomy 18:10-14

Take note that false prophets in Israel used the ‘miraculous’ to mislead Israel to embrace the practices of paganism:

“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the LORD your God…”Deuteronomy 13:1-5

Likewise, women such as Beth Moore, Priscilla Shirer, Bobbie Houston and Joyce Meyer within the MCU, are “prophesying and dreaming dreams” to mislead women AWAY from Christianity and embracing the worldly notions of humanistic philosophies and feminist notions. God is using these women – “to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.” However, the above scripture links again rebellion with the pursuit of other pagan deities and practices.

15CWCPortrait_Joyce Meyer

The MCU’s idea of empowering and equipping women is actually:

  1. promoting elitism,
  2. dividing churches,
  3. rejecting the Word of God,
  4. encouraging women to “to play the harlot after” secular idealisms (humanism, feminism) and thus
  5. promoting rebellion and witchcraft.

Yes, the Mysti-Chicks Uprising encourages witchcraft. This is because the bible states witchcraft includes fortune-telling and divining. Fortune-telling is also known as clairvoyance. And ‘divining’ requires someone who has supernatural or magical insight into future events. Bible translations often translate the word ‘witch’ with ‘medium’, suggesting that the two are synonymous (1 Samuel 28). Interestingly enough, people in the secular today identify as:

  1. psychic mediums
  2. spiritual mediums and
  3. intuitive mediums

A medium tunes into their psychic/spiritual/intuitive faculty to see into the lives of their hearers, (whether it be past, present or future). Probably the most popular form of mediation in the MCU is spiritual mediation. Spiritual mediation engages in ‘channeling’ the spirit, demon or primitive force through the person to communicate a message to their hearers. Channeling is a form of communication with various spiritual or energetic entities or forces in a spiritual world. Yet we see many of the leaders in the MCU rely on such occultic practices to convince their gullible audiences that they are hearing from God the Holy Spirit. Even Beth Moore confessed to tapping into this method from hearing God in an email:

“I have at times been so heavily impressed by Him on my heart that I had a very strong sense of what He was intending to get across to me. In sharing it, I used regular language – words – as people often do, to express those strong impressions that came with the pressing of the Holy Spirit.” [Source]

In other words, Beth Moore was acting as an intuitive medium, although she relied on intuitive senses to channel a message supposedly from the “Holy Spirit”. Amanda Wells is more of a psychic medium, relying on cold readings to give the impression she is hearing from God. Kat Kerr, Heidi Baker, Stacey Campbell to name a few are more of spiritual mediums, presenting themselves as channeling the Holy Spirit.

WARNING: The following videos may disturb some viewers.

[Start at 00:32 seconds in for Kat Kerr video.]

If you are still not convinced that this form of rebellion is linked to witchcraft, here is Patricia King promoting the pagan worship that taps into trance-like experiences known as Ekstasis Worship:

Copying the world: calling pagan worship Christian worship (Part 1)

Notice what they have in common. They are making Christianity all about you – not Jesus. However Jesus states,

You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.” John 5:39-40

This proves that they are false prophets, attracting people who hear what they want to hear. These prophets don’t care about the true Holy Spirit behind prophecy:

“Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelations 19:10

Note, all these MCU leaders have no problem claiming they hear from God the Holy Spirit. However, if they were hearing from the Holy Spirit, why isn’t the Holy Spirit doing His job of convicting these women of their sins and calling them to repentance? This is what Christ says the Holy Spirit came to do:

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer;concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.” John 16:7-9 (Emphasis added)



If there is anything that we hope you begin to realize about the dangers of the MCU, it’s that they are rebelling against God, they are dividing churches and as a result, they are promoting a form of witchcraft in the name of Jesus Christ. Finally a good example of this rebellion and the damage it’s causing in churches, is this segment from Jordan Hall’s Polemics Report.

25CWCPortrait_Beth Moore

Jordan Hall read out an email he received from a pastor who was terrified of the women in his church who promote Beth Moore. Jordan Hall addressed the following:

“Here’s why I’m reading the email. Here’s why I am reading this. He says this- he says:

‘By the way, please don’t get thrown off by the Beth Moore simulcast website banner on our website. (JD Hall laughs) Ah! Alright! It’s painful to see. We elders have been wrestling with our own powerful women’s ministries for some time. When we challenge that leadership, they cry foul and start manipulating us. It’s been tough but it’s coming to a head. We do not believe Beth Moore is a bible teacher.’

Well she is a bible teacher. She’s just a really, really bad bible teacher. Ahh- and claims direct divine revelation. And here’s the thing, the PASTOR has a Beth Moore link on the church website – – – and he can’t do anything about it right this minute because they’ve been wrestling with, the quote, (he put it in quotes), ‘POWERFUL’ (notice the quotation marks), ‘POWERFUL women’s ministry’. Anybody else seeing a problem, or is it just me?

Well, the scripture says the student becomes like the teacher. Usurping authority in her rebellious authoritative teaching positions, teaching men and women authoritatively as though she were preaching (because that’s what it is).

Huh! And her followers won’t submit to the leadership and the pastor of the church. First of all, this is very common. This is not out of the ordinary. Most post pastors I know who are discerning are terrified of the women in their church when it comes to Beth Moore.”

Source: Jordan Hall, Andy Stanley’s Tired of the Bible, Polemics Report,http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=8311621700, 25:52,Published 26/05/2016. (Accessed 08/09/2016.)


New Apostolic Reformation 101

“Excellent interview!!! It was as if I had been reading every note I had written down in the last 5 years on the subject….yep, 20 years in that movement and I didn’t even know that I was in it…yikes!!!” – Fighting for the Faith listener [Source]

The above comment from Facebook summarised why Chris Rosebrough’s recent interview Holly Pivec (from Spirit of Error), is a must listen to. They both discussed the New Apostolic Reformation, how to identify it, why it is so dangerous and why it has nothing to do with Christianity.


The New Apostolic Reformation cult preach a false Jesus, false gospel and New Age metaphysical teachings and strategies in an attempt to bring heaven to earth.

We will be addressing details in this interview in other articles.

New Apostolic Reformation 101



Interview with Holly Pivec on the New Apostolic Reformation

Source: Chris Rosebrough, New Apostolic Reformation 101, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/9/new-apostolic-reformation-101, 09/09/2016. (Accessed 10/09/2016.)

‘Gag-rag’ Christian Post shamelessly promote a liar and convicted criminal.

As you may have noted, we have been monitoring the scandalous case of Kong Hee and Sun Ho for the last few years. Not only has  Kong Hee been found guilty of his crimes of embezzling church funds to finance his wife’s music career, he was internationally exposed as a liar. And his lies were debunked by Chew Eng Han with evidence presented by him at his hearing.

But Kong Hee is an apostle with a mission from God apparently. And according to the Christian Post, who cares if Kong Hee has been proven to be a compulsive liar and a convicted criminal. Who cares if he deceived his church into thinking he was tithing to God but was in fact tithing to himself? Who cares if he was using the tithes of the sick and dying in his church so his wife can shamelessly shake her semi-naked body in her raunchy video-clip ‘China Wine’ (all in the name of Jesus)?



Once again, CP didn’t do their job as discerning journalists and once again lack any form of Christian ethic or moral standards. Instead they rely on claims found on Kong Hee and Sun Ho’s facebook pages. And that is why Christian Post continually proves itself to to be a gag-rag.

A gagrag is a so-called “Christian” rag that show no regard for journalistic ethics or biblical standards but serve the needs, and are governed by, the standards of the Evangelical Industrial Complex. [Read more here]

The Christian Post write,

Kong Hee Revival Draws 1,000 Pastors in Southeast Asia Amid Persecution of Believers

Megachurch pastor Kong Hee of City Harvest Church in Singapore revealed that he recently held a mass revival event for over 1,100 pastors from Southeast Asia, including China, where Christians face heavy government persecution.

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Phil Pringle once again endorses a damnable ‘gospel’ on his own blog.

A few years, ago we made our readers aware that Phil Pringle held to the damnable$Health and Wealth$ gospel. In his book ‘Dead for Nothing’, Pringle distorted the gospel of salvation by making the following claim:

“Jesus became poor regarding the wealth of this world on the cross, that those who receive Him may become rich with the wealth of this world.”

You can read an expose of Phil Pringle’s false gospel here:

Pringle Believes It’s Gods Will That Jesus Died To Make Believers Rich

This is a false gospel that will send people to hell, as outlined in Galatians 1:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.” Galatians 1:6-10

This is in stark contrast to the gospel that was proclaimed in 1 Corinthians 15, (“that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures…”).

Prosperity heretics preach Christ teach Jesus Christ is rich, Christ died to make you rich, that you must tithe and demands that you are to "bless to be a blessing".

Prosperity heretics preach and teach Jesus Christ was rich, Christ died to make you rich, that you must tithe and demands that you are to “blessed to be a blessing”.

We cannot stress enough the danger people put themselves in, when men like Phil Pringle get away with peddling such a false gospel. Even though he wrote this damnable heresy nearly fifteen years ago, Pringle continues to give this heresy his stamp of approval by republishing this material as recently as September 2015 on his own WordPress blog here.

Phil Pringle writes,

2 Cor 8:9  For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.

Paul is here referring to the fact that Jesus Christ died without one possession to his name, without one stitch of clothing on His body without any money at all so that he could take poverty to the cross and secure its defeat for those who embrace the Saviour.

This Scripture is couched right in the middle of two Chapters written to the Corinthians dealing almost exclusively with the subject of money.  Many commentators have great difficulty admitting that this passage is actually dealing with money.  In fact I don’t think I’ve yet found one who agrees that Paul is speaking specifically regarding finances.  The most common comment is that it is a reference to spiritual riches.  The Thompson Chain Reference Bible is a wonderful resource and study bible, but at this point he too in the margin describes what Paul is referring to as ‘spiritual riches’; Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comes the closest saying, ‘…in the heavenly glory which constitutes His riches, and all other things, so far as is really good for us’,  Matthew Henry interprets it as, ‘rich in the love of God, rich in the blessings of the new covenant, rich in the hopes of eternal life’.  The Word Biblical Commentary, claiming a team of respected International scholars who were ‘a showcase of the best in evangelical critical scholarship for a new generation’, states regarding this verse; ‘Here, surely wealth and poverty are ciphers, not for material prosperity and penury but for spiritual exchange as the Incarnate Christ became what we are, so we could become what He is’. For that to be consistent, the scripture would have to read, ‘Christ…became (spiritually) poor, that you might become (spiritually) rich’.  This then becomes an absurd, almost blasphemous proposition.  To say or even intimate that Jesus Christ was a spiritually poor person is ludicrous. Here is a person who raised the dead, healed the sick, displayed complete prowess over demons and the devil, revealed truths regarding God, man and the entire purpose of God that have withstood every kind of test and scrutiny.  This person was not a spiritually poor person. Rather it was because of His spiritual wealth that he was able to go to the cross and bear away the curses that afflict mankind.  Even if we limit His poverty to the time He was on the cross, claiming it was our poverty that He took, are we to conclude that the ‘hope’ he entered into was a spiritually poor position!?  To maintain any kind of hope, and faith through His ordeal demonstrates an extraordinary spiritual richness.  In our effort to read more into the statement than is actually there we make fools of ourselves and prevent God fulfilling His great promises in our lives. Jesus became poor regarding the wealth of this world on the cross, that those who receive Him may become rich with the wealth of this world.

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Source: Phil Pringle, Riches, PhilPringle, PHIL PRINGLE | BIBLE STUDY, https://philpringle.wordpress.com/2015/09/02/riches/, Published 02/09/2015. (Accessed 13/08/2016.)


Phil Pringle: spiritually abusing and fleecing attendees at Presence 2016

Earlier this year, Chris Rosebrough from Fighting For The Faith reviewed segments from Phil Pringle’s Presence Conference 2016 in Sydney, Australia. Chris’ review includes:

  1. The lunacy of a totalitarian New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) “Apostle” Samuel Rodriguez promoting classic NAR ‘devilstomp’ (this is not a Christian doctrine).
  2. A disgusting display of Phil Pringle rebuking the sick at his conference for not using their faith to get God to heal them.
  3. Thieves fraudulently getting money through guilt trips and lies.

How organisations can get away with abusing and exploiting the sick and dying in our communities like this under the guise of “Christianity” should make anyone concerned.


About sixteen minutes in, Chris reviewed NARpostle Samuel Rodriguez. NARpostles are part of the New Apostolic Reformation cult, a cult that emerged from the New Order of the Latter Rain revival/movement in 1948. Many heretical doctrines emerged from this movement including an heretical concept that God is restoring Apostles and Prophets to govern the end-times church. C3 Church is part of the NAR. So it’s no surprise they invited NARpostle Samuel Rodriguez. In this segment, Chris ‘accidentally’ exposed Rodriguez peddling a NARpostolic form of ‘Strategic Level of Spiritual Warfare’ (SLSW) which is akin to the NAR devilstomp.

The spiritual ravings of this man has all the markings of the NAR’s fanatical SLSW doctrines.


At the Presence Conference, Phil Pringle likes to look like a Benny Hinn wannabe. He promotes the idea that he can heal people by putting on a healing ‘signs and wonders’ crusade at his Presence Conferences. When he doesn’t get the numbers up on stage that he wants, he usually displays an attitude that often results in him speaking irreverently and turning people away from true Christianity.

Pringle claims Christ’s death was in vain?

In the video below, you can already see terminally ill and desperate people lined up for Pringle to pray for them during a “miracle” session. Imagine how all the sick and dying would feel having to stomach what Pringle is saying in this clip, (remember – these people are manipulated to give money at these events to get these miracles):

 Chris Rosebrough stopped and reflected on what Pringle was conveying God saying:

“Let see if I got this straight… I just received a report that I have terminal cancer. Okay. So I got terminal cancer so I call out to God.
‘God! I’m perishing!!!’
And God’s response is, ‘I gave you the bible, I sent Jesus and the Holy Spirit…
Yeah! You’re move!
It’s up to you.’

The fact that Pringle has no problem spiritually and emotionally abusing people suffering  sickness and terminal illness, only confirms that all he cares about is himself and his ‘healing’ facade. His sycophantic and unregenerate nature before God and man is on full display. Here is the transcript from the clip:

“Don’t you care [to the audience]?  When we refuse to raise our faith we’ll accuse God of being uncaring about our circumstance. They said, ‘You don’t care we are perishing’. You don’t think God loves you because you’re perishing. Your marriage is wobbly. Your sickness has come. But He’s asleep!

You say, ‘Wake up! Wake up! Do something for me!’


Sometimes He’s saying like, ‘I sent my Son, I sent the Holy Spirit, I sent the Word of God; you’re move. You’re to- You’re to take a hold of it. What makes you think I’ve got anything left up here?’

You can do stuff people! Christian’s hovering around the cross too long. I love the cross. Got saved there. But we’ve gotta move from a Savior to a Lord. 

But He’s ruling in our lives and we’re ruling in life. We’re living the life that he’s purchased for us, to make us full human beings. Not some living, chopped down experience of life. Rise up. Lay hold to the promise. Pick up the sword of the spirit. Fight the good fight of faith. It’s a great fight cos you’ll always win. All you gotta do is put up a bit of a fight. Just whatever fight you’ve got. Just- it might just be a tiny bit. And I’m preaching to you guys here. I hope you’re hearing me.”


The last segment of Chris Rosebrough’s review of the 2016 Presence Conference was a collection of sound bites exposing C3 for bringing guest speakers in to fraudulently strip people of their money. J John’s was particularly bad. Chris Rosebrough’s expose on this segment was particularly good.

Listen to the entire review here:

I Have a Mantle and I’m Not Afraid to Use It

Click here to download this episode

00:05:49 Todd Bentley Back to the Future Mantle Dream
00:16:47 Samuel Rodriguez I Have a Mantle and I’m Not Afraid to Use It
00:18:54 Phil Pringle God Has Done His Part
00:23:07 Presence Fleecings by Samuel Rodriguez, J. John and Louie Giglio
01:07:34 Craig Groeschel Preaches at Osteen’s Building
01:27:28 Sermon Review: I Am A Sheep by Robert Morris

Source: Chris Rosebrough, I Have a Mantle and I’m Not Afraid to Use It, Fighting For The Faith, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/5/i-have-a-mantle-and-im-not-afraid-to-use-it?rq=pringle, 28/04/2016. (Accessed 02/09/2016.)

You Just Cannot Make This Stuff Up – When Satire and Stupidity Take Over The Pulpit



So I was sent a Babylon Bee article a few days ago that played the parody of a church coming up with a Bible study based upon the Netflix show “Stranger Things.”

It was a very funny read until someone sent me the link to a Relevant Magazine article, The Gospel According to Stranger Things. When I began reading it took five seconds to go from shock to absolute anger. They were not attempting to be funny, they were dead serious–and blasphemous.

It was written by Wesley Walker, who, according to his bio, is a “classical educator with Classical Conversations, a seminarian and a postulant for Holy Orders in the Anglican Church in North America.”


Here is what I read:

Stranger Things reminds us that God’s story of salvation is the original template for all of human stories. It’s full of metaphors, symbols and even veiled references to the most compelling story in the universe, the Gospel.

Ok, so? If I tried hard I could find all these things in a Diehard movie by Bruce Willis. But here is where Relevant Magazine makes a parody into One Big Sick Joke! The article takes a theological drop into Blasphemy with this paragraph:

The show’s protagonist is a girl named Eleven. She is pretty clearly a Christ figure (Her nickname, El, even means “God” in Hebrew). She has a mysterious birth story and her true father is never mentioned, even though her mother does make an appearance. She possesses seemingly miraculous telekinetic powers. While in captivity, government officials “tempt” her to use her powers to kill a cat, which she refuses to do, paralleling Satan’s temptation of Jesus in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-11).

So what’s wrong with this? Well here are a few bullet points to help Identify the glaring problems.

  1. SHE- Has no resemblance to Christ as a Christ figure.
  2. SHE- Is not God incarnate, nor is she in any since a Savior.
  3. SHE- Is not Holy innocent and undefiled.
  4. SHE- Is not the Redeemer, Messiah or the Son of God.
  5. SHE- Is Not El Shaddai, God Almighty, just because her nickname is El.
  6. Her telekinetic powers are nothing like the power of God Almighty, that is blasphemy.
  7. Her temptation to kill a cat does not even come close. In fact, it is nothing at all like the temptation Jesus Christ faced when he willingly went out into the wilderness and was tempted by and defeated Satan, thereby establishing Himself to be the only man who could fulfill the promise of God in Genesis to finally crush the head of the serpent.

Oh, but that is not the only comparison that Wesley Walker found. Continuing from the article,

When El escapes from government captivity, she spends time with a group of lovable losers—kind of like the twelve disciples, a group composed of those who hated (Matthew the tax collector) or of a low station (i.e., fishermen). El even puts on Mike’s sister’s clothes, which alludes, I think, to the Incarnation (John 1:14a)

Oh wow! Can’t you just see the comparison to the Lord and Savior and those lovable, silly old disciples whom Jesus Called the Apostles? Oh, that is so cute when fools who have been given a voice on behalf of all Christianity are allowed to belittle the value and meaning of Christ and His Disciples.

Wesley actually has the nerve to compare a girl putting on clothes to the Incarnation of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, which is the name above every name in heaven and here on earth and even below the earth. Seriously!

Oh and that is not even close to all that Wesley Walker has to say, and we just cannot ignore this.

Walker continues the Blasphemy with this nugget:

El fails to meet the expectations of her friends because she does not rescue their friend Will from the Upside Down the way they expected. As a result, the group rejects her. You almost can’t help but notice the similarities to the way Jesus was rejected by the Jewish religious leaders because He did not meet their messianic expectations. El spends time in the wilderness where she is sustained by Eggo waffles, a pretty clear allusion to the manna sent to Israel from God while they were in the wilderness and prefigured the idea of Communion.

Um, First Jesus didn’t fail anything–He accomplished all that He set out to do. And He proceeded to redeem a people for God’s own Great name and glory.

The whole world rejected Jesus according to Isaiah 53:3-11,

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

The Scriptures are painstakingly clear about the motive and agenda of the death of Christ and it never paints it as a lighthearted drama or game. But rather in the death of Christ, we see the greatest tragedy unthinkable. Because the only innocent man ever to live, volunteered to suffer and die thus satisfying the very wrath of God on behalf of every person God the Father has given to God the Son. Further, we find that there is no other hope for all man because we have all rebelled against God and have all earned His wrath. The Grace of Jesus Christ to grant us repentance and faith is beyond anything that has ever been done.

As Scripture say’s in Romans 5:8

but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

There is so much more in that article but suffice it to say that Wesley Walker is in serious need of Biblical exhortation and training in righteousness.

You just cannot make this stuff up. I never thought that I would actually read something that dealt with Christ in a way that might actually make people more stupid if they read it. The Babylon Bee surely thought that they were just being satirical, and I doubt they thought that they were prophesying about events that would come up in just a few short days.

I really wish I were done, but I am sad to say that there is one more issue that needs to be addressed. I was also sent a quote from a well-known up and coming Word Faith power feminist Lisa Bevere.

Lisa has made a name for herself on TBN and on the conference speaking circuit, mainly for carrying around a big sword and calling women to take their role as pastors and leaders because of the supposed “millennia of oppression” of women by “domineering pigs” that act like they have the right to oppress lionesses.

Here is a quote posted on her Facebook Page:

Lisa Bevere Far too MANY of GOD’s DAUGHTERS who are called and gifted for ministry have been HELD BACK and denied their call by the church. For millennia, the VOICES of women have been SUPPRESSED, and the advancement of THE GOSPEL HAS BEEN CONTAINED. The enemy robs both men and women when we fall into division and attempt to add strength to one gender by subtracting it from the other. Though men and women were created to be SEPARATE in expression, we should NEVER be DIVIDED in PURPOSE. Jesus gave the Great Commission to all believers, men and women alike, and WE ALL have an IRREPLACEABLE ROLE to play in bringing His kingdom to earth. It is time we stop living within the limits others have placed on us and embrace our heaven-breathed identity as daughters #WithoutRival. (Grab a copy of my new book at WithoutRival.com or on Amazon) #Commission #CoLaborers #Gender #WithoutRival.

Lisa believes that God has called her to expose the millennia-old oppression of women who were called by God originally to be elders and teachers and Pastors in the body of Christ. She teaches that God indeed has “called” and “gifted” “God’s daughters” for ministry and they have been shamefully oppressed, held back and denied by a sinister enemy of all women everywhere.

What is this wicked enemy? Is it the demon hoards that have come straight out of Hell Perhaps it is Satan himself seeking the “God-called” ministry of women everywhere.

No brothers and sisters, this wickedness comes in a form that every woman must unsheathe their sword against. That “sinister enemy” is none other than the Church, The Bride of Christ!

Yes, you heard it, The Bride of Christ! The Bride that Jesus Christ came to live and die for and establish. The Bride that Jesus cared for so much that He gave her the Apostles doctrines to guide and secure her. This Bride which Jesus Loves and will one day bring to Himself, and feast at “the Marriage supper of the Lamb.”

According to Lisa Bevere, her declared enemy, scratch that, all women’s declared enemy is the Church because the true Church has refused to ordain and accept women into the preaching and teaching ministry of the body of Christ. After all, Lisa has looked and cannot find one single reason for this great demonic oppression. So it must be hate and that wicked notion of complementarianism. After all, surely God has always wanted women to be teaching and preaching, and we all know that God must be an egalitarian God–because Lisa said so, and she should know, because well she preaches and teaches and she couldn’t be wrong.

She has the backing of Hillsong Church, so that settles all issue’s and what makes matters worse is that for all these Millennia “The Gospel Has Been Contained” because of this wicked oppressive. As a matter of fact, Lisa reminds us all “The enemy robs both men and women when we fall into division and attempt to add strength to one gender by subtracting it from the other.”

When you start asking what God meant by those so-called sexist statements that are found in the Scripture beginning in Genesis about that whole “help meet” thing, feminists understand this to be about oppression. And true women of God should really embrace their “inner lioness.” (

(Did we tell you that you can learn to embrace your inner lioness when you buy Lisa’s book “WithoutRival” available wherever Blasphemy and heresy is sold, and definitely at Lifeway as well?)

Pastrix Lisa makes it clear, ladies, that you have a “role” and a “sword” and a “destiny” and you need to throw off those “shackles” of that old oppressive Bible, and buy her books. She is certain ladies that “It is time we stop living within the limits others have placed on us and embrace our heaven-breathed identity as daughters.” Because you know God loves to contradict Himself and confuse His followers by saying one thing for 6000 years then changing His mind and telling Lisa Bevere, Joyce Meyers, Jan Crouch, Paula White, and a whole host of other getting-rich-off-the-fattened-calf heretical pastrixes!

Like I said, you just cannot make this stuff up! I couldn’t imagine that one church in a thousand would want this howling heretic at their doorstep. She is a wolf, and if you don’t want to see that, it is because you have been blinded by yet another celebrity.

Let me pose this question: what has changed? When did God call the official meeting and declare that He has changed His mind about who His ministers are going to be?

With all her vitriol and theatrical display of “lioness power,” she is actually revealing that she is an enemy of God and His Word.

In case you didn’t catch on, what she is doing is fulfilling a promise of God, if you consider the curse of God on Adam and Eve. Genesis 3:16 (ESV) says

Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.” 

Most conservative Bible scholars agree that the meaning of this passage is that because of the fall of Adam and Eve there will be a struggle for power and conflict in every relationship. Men will dominate and women will struggle to take the position and will demand their own authority. This is why feminism, a Marxist ideology, inside the church is destructive and will ultimately cause churches that embrace feminism to also embrace every other sin, and ultimately, destruction.

Lisa Bevere is lying to you, ladies and gentlemen. She is not your friend, nor is she a friend of the church. She is a howling wolf demanding her power to roar and take authority that is not hers. She has no right to the office she has usurped, and the evidence is in her blasphemy against God, Christ, and His bride. She wants to destroy the bride of Christ shameful gain–don’t forget to release your power and buy her book.

If God’s Word is inerrant, infallible, and inspired then I need only one passage to destroy Lisa Bevere’s so-called heaven-appointed ministry. 1 Timothy 2:12–14 (ESV) says,

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve; 14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

There is another passage 1 Corinthians 14:34 which teaches the same thing. So what is being said here?

Paul the Apostle tells Timothy his protégé that women are not to teach or exercise authority over men. Some look at this as two separate commands. Women are not permitted to teach, nor exercise authority over men! However, most say this is a single command directed towards the pastoral office and women are not to be speaking from that office or exercising authority over men, in any Biblical teaching setting.

This really is about is teaching and preaching in a worship setting. Any worship setting. Small Groups, Discipleship classes, Small congregations, Large Conferences–to any group of professing Christians.

God warns us to be careful about the office of teacher James 3:1 (ESV) says,

Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.

Teaching brings strict judgment for everything you teach and one of the many reasons is every word has a meaning and a necessary consequence. Lisa Bevere is teaching Socialist Marxist Feminism and claiming that God, The Bible and The Bride of Christ is oppressing women and women need to rise up and claim their power.

So what about the power to shape the minds of children? What about training up Godly children and young women. What about mentoring families in Holiness and purity? The statistics on marriage are abysmal and God has given us the solution through God’s design in the local church, where Godly women exercise their God-given abilities to mentor and disciple a whole community of women and children on how to Know God, how to be Godly and love your husbands, thereby reversing the curse in Genesis, and how to behave and act in this wicked and perverse world. Women have always had prominent roles in the local church that are vital to the life of the church. Historically it has been the women who have had the heart to love and support the local church and to care for those in need. Historically it has been the women who are always mentoring and seeking to bring new disciples in to the church. Read Titus 2:3-5; 1 Timothy 2:9; Acts1:12-14; Acts18:26. Women ministered alongside Paul according to Philippians 4:3 and they were faithful to support the ministry according to Romans 16:1-6 and 2 Timothy 1:5.

In the true Church, men and women are not at odds with each other, but rather they understand the complementary roles in which God has assigned them. Men and women are to foster love and respect and mutual support as we work together to Glorify God and Proclaim His Gospel and it’s outworkings in every way we can.

Beloved, Lisa Bevere is a lying wolf and deserves nothing but our tears and prayers that God will grant her repentance because she has been blinded by the God of this world (2 Cor 4:4). She obviously doesn’t know my King and Savior, Jesus, who loved and elevated women in their proper place:

When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! – John 19:26-27 

It is high time we stopped listening to liars and wolves who are attempting to make a shipwreck of the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.

Grace and Peace

Source: http://pulpitandpen.org/2016/08/29/you-just-cannot-make-this-stuff-up-when-satire-and-stupidity-take-over-the-pulpit/[Contributed by Pastor Justin Pierce, Grace Life Church Tri~Cities]Accessed 30/08/2016