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From: http://web.archive.org/web/20081101173726/http://www.liquidpixel.biz/
SUNDAY, 15 JUNE 2008
CCCare and CCCW
If this is the first time you are reading my blog, I thought it maybe a good idea to draw you a quick overview of why the CCCare and CCCWblog exists. Although the full account of these issues are contained in this blog, this overview should bring new visitors up to speed on the who, why and where.
In October of 2004 I sought assistance from CCCare the welfare arm of C3Whitehorse that was located at 27 Bank Street Box Hill, Victoria Australia. Back then it was known as Christian City Church Whitehorse.On my first welfare appointment I met Tony Ryan who introduced himself as the CCCare Social Worker. In a nut shell the CCCare Social Worker turns out was not a Social Worker nor even a Welfare Worker but held the position of unqualified welfare worker.Unqualified means – lacking qualifications, untrained, unqualified to perform a job that requires qualifications.Over the course of Tony Ryan being my CCCare unqualified (unbeknown to me) Welfare Worker he not only cohered me into signing a loan with his own Finance Company Brontobyte Financial Solutions Pty Ltd, but also scammed me into working a total of 1,400 hours for his buddy Frank Greco who owned Connections Consulting Pty Ltd.Most people ask…How on on earth could someone scam you into signing a loan and get you to work for someone for 1,400 hours without being paid.
At the time I wasn’t well. I’d recently been released (early September 2004) from a 7 week hospital stay. I was both physically and emotionally drained. I sought help from CCCare because I had no one else to turn to. No family, nothing (In late 2003 I’d lost a business, my 10 year relationship ended in April 2004).Apart from existing in a dodgy rooming house in Box Hill, I was practically destitute.
It’s one of those experiences that unless you’ve been there, it’s hard to understand the dynamics.
Bottom line, I thought that Tony Ryan actually care about my welfare, so I ended up trusting him 100%. If Tony said jump I would.
After working a total of 1,400 hours on the basis of trusting Tony Ryan and his word that I’d be paid, I was sacked. In fact Tony Ryan was the one who sacked me after receiving a phone call to do so by his Mate Frank Greco.
CCCare and CCCW become involved was I connected both Christian City Care and Christian City Church Whitehorse and made a formal complaint about Tony Ryan. Instead of accepting responsibility and accountability for the CCCare dodgy unqualified welfare workers actions, the Chairman of the Board of Directors for both CCCare and CCCW (Senior Pastor Peter McHugh), wrote me a letter dispelling all accountability for their involvement and responsibility for their unqualified welfare worker employee unsavoury conduct.
I’m now back on my feet again and so I decided to start this blog. People of Australia, the world, need to know exactly what was allowed to happen at Christian City Care. They also need to be informed about the (in my opinion) lack of ethics, to which the senior Pastor Peter Mchugh operated the Board that oversees both CCCare and CCCW.
NOTE: ALL SCREEN GRABS WERE TAKEN BEFORE THE 03/04/2012.
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I just read it all… I think… including responses… So lets get this straight. You just get out of hospital, are living in homes and on charity and getting food parcels… you front up to this church and get given I assume help. You befriend a volunteer worker, who puts you in touch with his mate in web design or development who offers you some work … even though so far all they have to go on I assume is that you are… well.. a taker and requiring welfare.. So they give you a rod instead of the fish. You start work and CONTINUE to claim welfare benefits from the government(???), and three weeks into this job you are abusing your boss while out to lunch (albiet he is shouting at you) and he sacks you. Had you finished the site out of interest? Somewhere in the midst of this, by your own letters, a person gives a car to the CHURCH and the CHURCH gives it to you… the same church worker lends you money because even though your still claiming govt benefits you have spent it all and cant get to the said work. And… YOU’RE the victim? WTF? I bet you didnt pay him back the loan either… am I right?
You are right though in that at least you have posted the letters so that we can judge for ourselves.
Mate, if you had a legit contract, work agreement whatever in place with this dude – take him to court – you clearly didn’t or you would have already.
Sorry, but on the outside looking in I see someone who is whinning and whinging after seemingly been given a number of opportunities to get his/her life sorted out. Where is your accountability in all this? Why are you so hurt? What expectations did you put on this people? Endless giving to you no matter what your behaviour or input was? I am sorry you feel hurt – but I would do a little bit of honest navel gazing before posting because frankly from the outside you look like a bit of a user. Just sayin….
It’s now 5 years and a few months since all this happened to me. Was looking for some stuff on Google tonight and this blog popped up.
I’ll bet your the same Narelle who at the time,was heavily involved with CCCW and Tony was one of your church (loose term) buddies. If that’s who you are, clearly your post is bias, which likely stems back to my refusal of your sexual advances.
Full marks for treachery – good to see your living by “good” Christian principles!
C3 Whitehorse Scandal? (Part1)”TAKE 1″
Posted by churchwatcher in C3 Whitehorse Scandal
C3 Whitehorse Scandal?(Part1)”TAKE 2″
Posted by Narelle @,don’t like Take 1
No scandal here.
Scandal? OR vague complaints about an individual situation. If other people have the same complaints, lets hear them and then we can see what the scandal is
Attending C3 for years I’m happy to know that you, Narella, live in true accordance with the church’s values. Although the bible says “he {God} does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities.” Psalm 103:10 and asks that we act as he does and show his compassion; you have gone completely against that. I don’t care how wrong you believe this man was, the execution of your opinion was a derivative of anger, rudeness and insensitivity. As one of the core members of c3 should you not mirror the bibles teachings? Should you not surprise those whom are upset with understanding? “I see someone who is whining and whinging” “You look like a bit of a user” “You’re the victim? WTF!?”
Even without the bible I can use my common sense and see this man feels hurt, as though his emotions were used and his trust betrayed.
Thankyou for allowing us to all see this compassion that c3 continues to display, even without attending it for 7 years.
I’m sure this will allow many others to see c3’s true colours without wasting their time.