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This is a very manipulative sermon by Phil Pringle.
Not only are the scriptures mangled for his gain, Pringle abuses the gift of God’s salvation by threatening people in his congregation of losing their salvation if they question or get critical about church or the pastor. The bible scriptures in this sermon do not support what he teaches.
The allegory he uses for the scriptures borders on idiocy. He teaches the womans house is Pringle’s ‘house of God’ and people need to financially support what Pringle is doing. The issue with this allegory is if it is her home – isn’t it her ‘house of God’? Doesn’t this mean people should invest in their own homes for a ‘prophet’ who might come their way so they can bless that prophet THEN be blessed?
How could Pringle make the bible about himself and suggest that people need to make room for him as an Elisha-like prophetic figure?
Below are quotes from the above sermon:
“I found this: that every time a parent or a family start to get critical about the church, one of the first things that happens is that the kids stop coming. And if you want to cut out your family and your legacy from the house of God, just get critical. Just start to defend your position and justify a resistance to what God is doing with some criticism – and you’ll find it actually severs the Spirit.” (13:22)
Pringle puts a figure on those who have back-slidden from his ministry but labels himself a prophet,
“All the thousands of decisions that we’ve seen of people come to Christ, there must be ten thousand back-slidden people in this city right now, that if they were bought in to the house of God where a prophet is and where the life of God is, they’ll find themselves getting revived…” (16:04)
Pringle wants prophets in his life that make him profit,
“That’s the kind of prophet I want to have. You know, people talk about prophets rising up in this hour. We need to have prophets who will tell us what shares to buy. Amen! About when to buy a property, when to sell a property, what property to buy. We need prophets who are a profit, amen!” (19:52)
Pringle says God will repay people ANYTHING they’ve lost if they support
Elisha’s Pringle’s house of God,
“When you make room for God, ANYTHING that you have lost is gonna be restored to you and you will find that God is the repayer of people who build his house!” (21:43)
“We’re making room for the future. Right here in this house. At this point, we don’t have a child that’s ten thousand people strong. But we’re going too. And we need to make space today. Cos we’re gonna be bursting at the seams. And every single one of you can be involved in making that space for God right here and right now.” (22:32)
Mate, I gotta say I came to this website with an open mind, but to me it came across like this website was a cult. This church is completely about God, I have found no wrong in their teachings. I also think that you take the people who attend this church to be idiots. They can think for themselves, clearly, they come with the intent to praise and worship God, and build their relationship with Him.
It’s like you have the attitude (and please correct me if I’m wrong) that if something is going right for Christians i.e. they are being blessed financially or opportunistically, that they must be corrupt in some way. The way you slander about pastors is really horrifying, as if you were perfect. I would commend you to take a look at what Jesus said in Matthew 7:5. I do believe it is more than alright to questions a man’s or churches intentions, but what you’ve presented is too far, almost obsessive hate for this church.
Exactly! It sickens me when Christians claim to be acting in love and no actions of theirs show it.
C3 might not get everything right, but no church does. At least they’re getting people saved and helping the less fortunate in the community and around the world.
What’s this blog doing that’s helping anyone?
What’s this blog doing other than spreading hate in the name of Jesus?
I think dc Talk said it best (though I think they were quoting someone else), when they said, “The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle.”
I don’t recall how I found this website but it has been eye opening. I think its good that christians are more informed and more aware of what goes on. I went to CCCOF for years and found it totally life changing, especially in the years 2000 to early 2002. I will be for ever grateful for that. Back then, the altar was important, people were prayed over and the power and presence of God just seemed more real and present. There was always time to linger in the presence and annointing also. Just amazing times. But something has changed. I’m SO tired of hearing about numbers, numbers, numbers. The 10000 that will one day be at CCCOF, the vision of 1000 churches worldwide. I realise God wants more people saved and going to church but I’m tired of hearing so much, so often about numbers. I never used to need to wear ear plugs to church either. There has been times I could hardly hear myself sing or really want to sing because the music was so loud. What’s happening on the stage seems to matter more than if people who are being led in praise and worship actually are praising and worshipping. Big screens, lights, high volume. Where is the power and presence of God in all this? Its not just CCC, its a world wide trend and churches becoming more like the world where money and image are glorified. Yes, no church is perfect and CCC does do a lot of good but that doesn’t make it wrong to question and look at some of what they teach and do. CCCOF used to be fantastic and Phil Pringle’s emphasis on the Holy Spirit has so much potential. I might be wrong but I see the focus now of CCC as numbers, numbers, numbers and ministry in the Holy Spirit doesn’t have the prominece it once did. Bring back the altar! And please, turn down the volume. I still love CCC but its just not the same there anymore and I watch it on the net now.
^ And I restate… I came to this website with an open mind. I think your argument is invalid.
I can see what you’re saying but I don’t agree with you. I’m an ex-member of C3 Oxford Falls. Intepreting big churches like small churches is naive. Take Phil out of the church setting and see him as a CEO. As a CEO if the managers and systems are outdated then the CEO is overbearing. Articulating visions is the CEO’s job. The man sells God. Get over it. It’s a dog eat dog society and a big church functioning in a capitalistic, democratic society is no different. You want feel good Calvinist, Kumbaya piety piety Oh LoRD! Hear my quiet humble plea! church, then you’re not cut out to run or critique big churches. I can tell you a million and one reasons squabbles inside out why C3 sucks but that’s like critiquing Steve Jobs + Apple. If you want accountability in C3 then take your cause up to their face. They probably won’t listen to you but at least you’ve vented in their arrogant faces. Lurking in the dark will hurt your soul, is it worth it? Life is short. I take my orders from God and so should you if you’re serious about this blog.
Gary.. in the name of Jesus Christ I command you to leave. You’re possessed. I suggest you read the bible, say ‘Yesu’ over and over again until you feel something pop out of your mouth. If that doesn’t work go to a church service, C3 will do, they have skilled exorcists during the service, I call them ‘watchers’ they sense it and have purging tactic. Should feel cleansed the next day.
Gary MacDougall said:
“We need to have prophets who will tell us what shares to buy. Amen! About when to buy property and when to sell a property; what property to buy. We need prophets who are a profit. Amen!” (19:52)”
..and omg you don’t think this above is drivel? God’s real prophets spoke about repentence and God’s judgement. However real prophets don’t empty wallets and C3 doesn’t want the message of real prophets.
omg If you read my testimony on this website you will see that I was at AOG Sydneham, Christchurch when Pringle was saved so I do know a little about his background.
I am on this site because I was invited by Jake and as long as he allows me being here I am happy to assist him in exposing the C3 cult. I am not going to be put off contending for the faith by a woos like yourself. God has nothing against Christians exposing wolves in sheeps clothing. Try reading about how Paul the apostle treated deceivers-and he talks about it a lot in the New Testament. You, yourself should stand up for Truth.
BTW omg you should read the scriptures about using the Lord’s name in vain.