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Some interesting comments have emerged on C3ChurchWatch in regards to Phil Pringle and his ‘your best life now’ god. We hope to find out more information on these claims.
It has been stated:
“when I was at School of Creative Arts, Phil told a story about a local council member who apparently vehemently opposed the approval for the current Oxford Falls campus. Phil drew the story out, claiming that this guy said that he would rather a tyre burning dumb [sic] be put there than Phil’s CCC church.
Phil then wrapped the story up by stating that this councillor died in a “mysterious car crash.” His moral to the story was that you don’t touch the Lord’s anointed. Phil was saying that the guy died as a result of opposing the C3 movement. Unbelievable but true.” – https://c3churchwatch.wordpress.com/about/#comment-669
“… Phil implied from his story that the council member died within a very short space of time after opposing him.” – https://c3churchwatch.wordpress.com/about/#comment-670
The second account was as follows,
“did you ever hear Phil Pringle suggest that two women died as a result of opposing his ministry (in NZ)? We heard him make that claim in the early years of CCC (now C3).” – https://c3churchwatch.wordpress.com/about/#comment-668
“The way we heard him tell the story is similar, a “subtle” implication that those who were opposing Phil were actually opposing God Himself. And the stories about Warringah Council? Heard plenty, though not that particular one.” – https://c3churchwatch.wordpress.com/about/#comment-674
If you have seen Phil Pringle in the past also make similar comments, if you have audio or video of him saying such things, please email us at c3churchwatch@hotmail.com. Or feel free to comment on this post.
Edit 10/01/2014: Phil Pringle has recently retold the story of the women who opposed him in his sermons on the 29th of December 2013. Please read.
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I’m reminded of the current heading when opening Facebook – “trending stories” and this may be one of them.
Should we be shocked by the title of this post? Certainly, and if I were the object of the post, even more so. But Ps Phil knows the truth of these “subtle suggestions” he’s made in the past, and he certainly wouldn’t lie to himself about it, would he? It would be wise of him to think carefully before suggesting such things in future.
“Readers, beware of pastors who try scare tactics couched in scripture and claims of spiritual authority. Actually when a pastor trys this, you know they really are not a ‘pastor’ but a charleton. This is spiritual abuse, plain and simple. David Johnson and Jeff van Vonderen in their excellent book “The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse”, point out these ‘scare tactics’ as evidence of misplaced loyalty that abusive religious systems will demand from their members. Johnson and van Vonderen devote an entire chapter to how scripture is misused to abuse people in church”
Read complete article here…….
http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/beware-of-pastors-and-churches-who.html
“Deep ingrained codes of written and unwritten rules control and condemn, wounding believer’s spirits and keeping them from the grace and joy of God’s Kingdom. beleivers find themselves enslaved to a system, a leader, a standard of perfromance that saps true spiritual life”.
Sounds rather like the current ‘leadership’ model tracking through church culture at the moment.
“Church is meant to be a safe place where pastors help and equip members for the work of service”, not a place where they are “manipulated or shamed into certain behaviours or performance that ensnares in legalism, guilt and begrudging service”.
Sounds more like the spiritual death of a “thousand cuts”, the pastor doesn’t really even need to use “scare tactics couched in scripture” if he doesn’t want to!
“Death of a thousands cuts” has a few definitions – one being “creeping normalcy” referring to the way a major change can be accepted as the normal situation if it happens slowly, in unnoticed increments, when it would be regarded as objectionable if it took place in a single step or short period.
Berean,
‘Ps Phil knows the truth of these “subtle suggestions” he’s made in the past, and he certainly wouldn’t lie to himself about it, would he?’
I really wonder to what extent Phil is actually clever enough and sophisticated enough to employ subtle techniques. I suspect that any subtlety in his delivery may be as the result of an outside spiritual influence – what springs immediately to my mind is the deviousness that was shown by the serpent in the garden of Eden…
‘It would be wise of him to think carefully before suggesting such things in future.’
If Phil is moving in a false anointing, he may not even be fully aware of exactly what he’s doing or saying. (Interestingly, that’s something that could account for the fact that he has shown a surprising propensity to contradict things that he himself has said or written).
Die for opposing Phil?
That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever hea … aaarrrggghhhhhh!
doc Z you’re right! no one will die for opposing a wolf in sheep’s clothing!
It’s as ludicrous as GW saying the Iraqis are dying for opposing him! …and GW also claims to be a christian!
“I really wonder to what extent Phil is actually clever enough and sophisticated enough to employ subtle techniques.”
Doc Z good point! Before entering the “ministry” Phil was a garbage collector and a postman.
I don’t think he is intentionally moving in a false anointing. He probably started out very genuine but went off track very slightly at the beginning when he split the AOG and stole the sheep in cohorts with the Bartons, to start their own independent church. If you project that misguided direction over the years it has now become a huge deception.
Has Phil forgotten to predict these deaths?Just wondering.
Eyes if he predicted it wouldn’t happen. He is a 100% certified and qualified FALSE PROPHET.
Thanks for the solid feed back Gazza.
One of his classic prophecies is the revival sweeping through NZ. I think ,from memory he gave that one in Wellington. Of course it didn’t happen.Jake has a big list of them and there are probably dozens of his false prophecies in the archives on this site.
BTW Eyes, recently Phil was awarded the Skybalon award. He has a new trophy for his collection. He worked real hard with twisting scriptures to earn that award. Certainly a lot of solid work.