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This article is in response to Phil Pringle endorsing Bob Harrison to AGAIN speak this past Sunday at C3 Church Oxford Falls (10/06/2012). Bob Harrison spoke at both the morning service and night service on ‘Increase’ (a very typical Word of Faith type of message). You can view his ‘bible study’ in the connect notes below.
Bob Harrison, C3 Connect Notes – 12/06/2012
Harrison came just in time to preach a message that is convenient to Phil Pringle’s ‘Vision Builders’ event (which is actually on today). This article will be looking at more than just Bob Harrison and his credentials as a minister. It will be looking at who Pringle associates himself with. As we’ve recorded in the past, Phil Pringle does not hold a legitimate doctorate.
Is Doctor Phil Pringle Really a Doctor?
Nor does Phil Pringle’s ‘National Director of Australia for C3 Church Global’ Gordon Moore hold a legitimate doctorate. Phil Pringle’s long-time friend Kong Hee also does not hold a legitimate doctorate.
What Is Wrong With Gordon & Kong?
(^ In the article above please note that “The implication is that those people who got their degrees and doctorates from unaccredited institutions cannot use the title “Dr.” in their referent, or even if they use it, it is a fake “Dr.”, like calling a woman without a child under her care as “mother”.“)
New Covenant International University, where Pringle, Moore and Hee got there doctorates from are NOT accredited. The New Covenant International University is a diploma mill.
However, Phil Pringle also endorses and upholds the ministries of Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Rodney Howard Browne, Joyce Meyer. (We will be doing future articles on his associations with the above ministers.)
Pringle upholds the above teachers teachings and promotes their resources in his C3 library for C3 college students. All four are extreme Word of Faith heretics, all documented and proven to be so by proper teachers and ministers of God’s Word.
BUT did you know that Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Rodney Howard Browne, Joyce Meyer ALSO all hold illegitimate doctorates from the same diploma mill?
They got their doctorates from ‘Life Christian University’ (LCU).
The LCU states:
“The Christian degree programs of Life Christian University are designed to equip students to follow the Lord in the work of the ministry. For this reason, we have chosen to be accredited through Transworld Accrediting Commission International (TAC).
Now in their 25th year, TAC accredits and assists Biblical theological schools, seminaries, universities, colleges, and institutes throughout the world. They provide supervision for over 100 member institutions, including major denominations and well-known world-wide ministries, in 23 states within the USA and 6 countries.
TAC is an independent accrediting agency that exists to help the religious world obtain accreditation that is not government affiliated. All TAC member institutions around the world accept credits from other member schools, if the credits apply to their programs.
Transworld Accrediting Commission
9085 California Avenue • Riverside, California 92503
Voice: 951-901-5586 • Fax: 951-344-8236
www.transworldaccrediting.com
We have chosen not to seek governmental school accreditation offered by the U.S. Department of Education or a regional accrediting association because we believe we should not allow secular institutions to dictate the qualifications for instructors or the programs for a Spirit-filled ministerial degree.
As a Christian University, LCU offers academic programs that are specifically designed to equip students who feel the call of God on their lives and wish to build a ministerial career or to further their Christian education. It is not for persons intending to build secular careers.
The articulation and acceptance of LCU credits or degrees by other institutions, including employers, must be determined by the respective institutions. This form of ministry accreditation is not recognized by the United States Department of Education, but is recognized by most churches, ministry institutions, and ministry organizations.” – Life Christian University, LCU Accreditation, http://www.lcus.edu/about/accreditation.php, (Accesed 01/03/2012).
Wikipedia also records that the ‘Transworld Accrediting Commission’ is an “unrecognized higher education accreditation organization”.
It has been documented on ‘Christian News Today’ that LCU has stated previously on their website,
“Many full-time ministers continue their education to the doctoral level through our Distance Learning program. These doctoral programs can include work in which the minister is currently involved and advanced standing is awarded for published works. Our illustrious alumni include such internationally-prominent ministers as…” – Rodney Howard-Brown & Friends, Christian News Today, http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/rodney.htm, 13/04/2012 (according to ‘archive.org’). (Accessed 01/03/2012.)
The list above at CNT provides a list of people that LCU have qualified. The list at LCU has updated their information. They write,
“The distinguished ministers shown on this page are some of the most renowned preachers and teachers in the world today. Many are recognized throughout the entire world, but all of them are famous in heaven. It has been the privilege of Life Christian University to recognize their published works, along with their lifetime ministry achievements in consideration for earned degrees from LCU. The Doctor of Ministry, the Doctor of Missiology, the Doctor of Theology and the Doctor of Philosophy are all earned degrees, recognized for the highest level of academics and spirituality. LCU is honored to be associated with God’s greatest ministry gifts given to the Body of Christ today.” – Life Christian University, LCU’s Distinguished Degree Holders, http://www.lcus.edu/distinguished_graduates/index.php#. (Accessed 01/03/2012.)
Their page shows those who have come through their courses with their diploma mill doctorates:
“Dr. Kenneth Copeland
Ph.D. in Theology
Dr. Gloria Copeland
D.Min. in Theology
Dr. Benny Hinn
Ph.D. in Theology
Dr. Joyce Meyer
Ph.D. in Theology
Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne
Doctor of Theology
Dr. Adonica Howard-Browne
D.Min. in Pastoral Theology…
Dr. Bob Harrison
Ph.D. in Theology”
Life Christian University, LCU’s Distinguished Degree Holders, http://www.lcus.edu/distinguished_graduates/index.php#. (Accessed 01/03/2012.)
Let’s face it. Phil Pringle is associating himself with the wrong crowd. Why did Phil Pringle invite someone as dodgy as Bob Harrison to speak at C3? Bob Harrison in his Connect Notes misused every single scripture. Luke 5:1-7 is not about how Christians can understand “the purpose of increase”. Proverbs 23:7 is not about God giving us “success and increase for us in every area of our lives”. In context the scripture actually says,
“Do not eat the bread of a selfish man, or desire his delicacies; fr as he thinks within himself, so he is. He says to you, “Eat and drink!” But his heart is not with you.” Proverbs 23:6-7
This is good advice from Proverbs. Why should Christians put up with these Word of Faith heretics that hold diploma mill doctorates?
C3 Church Watch 
“Why should Christians put up with these Word of Faith heretics that hold diploma mill doctorates?”
Every C3 pew warmer should think seriously and deeply about this question.
C3 pew warmers…I was saved at the same church (AOG Sydneham) as Pringle and right at the very beginning his “preaching” was off. Pringle was shoved into ministry by Pastors Dennis & Barabara Barton, without any bible training.
He didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. He was a saved garbage collector.
Nothing much has changed over the years except that he is a lot more deceived now than he was at the beginning.
As far as a doctorate goes, Pringle couldn’t even pass a N.Z. University entrance certificate, let alone get anywhere near a doctorate.
His case makes the doctorate mill the world’s biggest joke!
If Phil Pringle went to his own C3 College, he would get an accredited qualification …
http://www.c3college.com/main/home/accreditation
Today’s structure of churches and leadership is more Catholic than we realise and it is not as per the arly church pattern:-
http://www.wickedshepherds.com/qualifications.html
Doctorates in Doctoring the truth.
These Doctors have not told their patients the truth when discussing a prognosis.Now they will all need intensive care.
Eyes, intensive prayer!
You know…there was a time when i thought Pringle might look at himself in the mirror and repent of his nonsense…i was wrong. He is too far gone now with all the money and setting himself [and his kids..and grandkids! up for life]. Moore is just the same and he is a grade A A###ole…yes..i have met him..and this is certainly no ‘new’ Apostle. Through curiousity i decided to look at Pringle’s twitter ‘maxims’…the best one was ‘Make sure you have a strong biblical foundation”…well, knock me over with a feather! the man is obviously delusional. The 2nd twitter was more threatening to C3 novices..”BEWARE the team member who keeps NOT turning up”. Wow..beware a member? What if they had other problems? Scary. AND…i saved the best until last…Pringle’s twitter on Dec 19 2013 was ‘Thanks to the C3 pastors on board with our push for free-to-air on channel 10, 2014. Aiming to reach goal before christmas”. I assume that Xmas 2013 went by and NO announcement? Yet another FALSE wish/ prophesy/statement by Pringle that NEVER happened? The man is beyond help and is completely compromised.
Pringle should take the advice of Proverb 18:1 that he referenced in his tweet about team members:
“Whoever isolates himself seeks his own desire;
he breaks out against all sound judgment.”
Pringle has indeed set apart his church from Christianity, seeks his own desires through his ‘ministry’ (Your Best Life With Phil Pringle) and furthermore “breaks out against all sound judgment”.
He refuses to be corrected by the greater body of Christ. It’s odd how Pringle appears to embody “the fool” in this section of Proverbs:
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding,
but only in expressing his opinion.
When wickedness comes, contempt comes also,
and with dishonor comes disgrace.
The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters;
the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook.
It is not good to be partial to the wicked
or to deprive the righteous of justice.
A fool’s lips walk into a fight,
and his mouth invites a beating.
A fool’s mouth is his ruin,
and his lips are a snare to his soul.
The words of a whisperer are like delicious morsels;
they go down into the inner parts of the body.
Whoever is slack in his work
is a brother to him who destroys.
Yes…well old phil is getting more and more paranoid about people discerning his ‘beliefs’…his recent twitters are warning people to ‘make friends with great people’…ummmm would that be C3 pastors? Obviously phil and gordon moore visit this site often and it is really getting under their [ wolf?] skin….As for G.moore…i really don’t think he believes anyone could ever ‘dare’..talk about him….He fancies himself as some kind of Celtic Warrior…even has a celtic emblem hanging from the rear view mirror in the car.[oops…now he will get very paranoid!..and looks exactly like ‘Neddy Smith’…seriously..they could be twins]. If you have ever heard him ‘try’ to speak Gaelic..it is heartwrenchingly bad…almost as bad as his efforts to smile..Honestly…it looks like he is in pain.Don’t forget…he had to join C3 because ‘his’ church couldnt make it…Watch out Phil…don’t think old Gordy doesnt remember, and isn’t eyeing off the top spot.
You seem somewhat unkind with your comments considering you say you represent ‘the truth’. Maybe you don’t like these people, but are you being Christian when you speak about them like this?
“You seem somewhat unkind with your comments considering you say you represent ‘the truth’.”
You think we’re “unkind”? What do you think of the behaviour of Jesus and his disciples?
Maybe it is kind that we care enough to point people to the truth?
Am i being Christian to give my opinion….yes i am. Exactly what kind of ‘Christian’ do you mean? The kind who will say nothing …will stay ‘lukewarm’…between the Bible Word and unbiblical preaching? ..who will say nothing about so-called pastors who tell their people, and i quote ‘dr’ Moore “Now i know you’re not God..but you’re like him”. How about reading: “My ways are higher than your ways, and My thoughts are higherthan your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8–9).
SinnoMoore …can i just ask…was the apostle Peter ‘wrong’..or ‘not christian’..in his response to simon Magus? I am asking the question as to the character and honesty behind a Pastor..in this case, Moore. Moore has on his video blog concerning the Old Testament tithing as ‘A giving that is required from before the Law, during the Law, and After the Law…[it is ] an act of Grace”. Pleas tell me what pastor would consider himself a preacher of the Holy Bible after putting forth non-biblical doctrine.
I was fairly sure Gordon Moore did a doctrite on the Celtic Church and its significance for today? I have previously mentioned this as I believe he is a decent man whom out of the others, Gordon actually did some study. In fact out of the “preachers” I ever saw occasionally at his church, Gordon actually “taught” the best.
I would like to read this ‘doctrite’ and the significance of the ‘celtic church’ for today..i wonder if it is online.
Hey guys, someone told me that on your Facebook page (which I don’t want to join for various reasons) that when the Cho thing dies down you’re going to focus more on Dr Moore….
Besides his Doctorate (which I’m fairly certain is genuine – he definitely has a Masters), what else can you pin on him? No I’m not into c3 anymore not their doctrine but I don’t think Gordon is that bad.
I know there’s some nepotism that goes on but having seen that Cho, Pringle, Sweetman, Evans and Houston all have their kids on the payroll, it seems like one of those things you can’t get rid of. Besides there’s no reason to bring his kids into it; they probably read this probably have done nothing wrong except have the same surname. Stick to doctrine issues I reckon.
Simeon, nobody said GM was ‘bad’ [his ‘doctorate’ and ‘masters’ can be debated as well as the next public person claiming those qualifications, has anybody ever been able to see them?.. NO!]
Although MANY are'” fairly certain”. Not good enough i’m afraid.
Nobody has EVER brought “his kids into it”.
I gather that you are trying to say his kids might read something and that it is not fair to them, but, if you present yourself as a someone in public life, a politician, pastor, magistrate, heck..even a football player then you are up for examination [ just ask the Prime Minister or ANY other public figure!]. You might not like his kids reading anything less than Godly about him, but I don’t like C3 Doctrine heresies ruining other innocent kids lives either, and most importantly, their chance to learn the Biblical Truth.
but now youmention that “there’s no reason to bring their kids into it”…Where do you think their lifestyles come from? For instance, Pringle can set his daughter Rebekah up as a ‘Director/publisher/art agent’ for PAX ministries, when all she is doing is flogging off dad’s books and trying to find anyone who will buy his ‘art’. Commission is paid if other C3 organisations buy them [oh yes, they are ‘encouraged’ to buy them] and it is completely negotiable between Pringle and his daughter how much that commission will be [how much it will cost C3?]…30%? 70%? How is that fair to hardworking families, i ask you.
Oh yes, pastor phil or Houston will tell you that they take NO salary from the ‘church’, it is income from all of their books [hello steven furtick] that fund their lifestyle..they say they have NO salary from the C3 organisation! Consider this: they also have NO expenses [first class airfares, restaurants, etc] courtesy of their C3 credit Cards. Still seem fair that the opulent lifestyles for the family and kids and grandkids are at ‘congregation’ expense? You decide.
Simeon – mate, you’ve got a lot to learn. I suppose as you say you’re involved in c3, and you don’t like the nepotism. You should know it well. It starts at the top and goes down. Pringles kids aren’t the only ones living the, as Truth said, “lifestyles” where they’re set up. Jobs, church plants…If you don’t believe me, head back stage behind the massive LCD screens with the flying seagulls and have a look. Stop pretending it’s all roses. And yes, unlike roses, it stinks.
Ah..gossip..that’s no good. i can tell you the ‘messiah’ [phil] and his wife were in briz this week..oh boy..didn’t gordon pull out all the stops and red carpet.The main conversation [outside C3] was about how old Pringle looks…honestly..i cannot believe it is the same person i saw a year ago.
“The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to the inmost parts.” Proverbs 18:8
Ahh yes. Nothing better than, “did she wear this, who’s broken up with who” etc…
Yes I heard Dr Phil was there, and as you said, great expense was gone to. I’m sure all the big churches do it anyway, live the high life and dump menial responsibilities on the commoners.
I would like to know if those featuring in the banner were mentioned. I wonder what he said about money, or about sites like this. Was his doctrine sound? Or did the masses just go along with whatever he said (like I used to – I mean just read Financial Excellence)? What did Mama Chris say? I heard she preached at c3 inner east on Sunday AM. I hope they had a good time.
Oh, just like the Apostle Paul – there is so much I wish to write!! Despite whether or not I like PP & CP, I hope that people were healed, saved, etc. Sound hypocritical? Are we all not?
I think you already squid, doctrine is a disaster, Mama chris is all over the place, Yonggi NEVER gets a mention, BUT, when the kong hee debacle hits..it will be brutal. What i fear for most, is these young kids coming along and actually thinking that they are being taught real Biblical Christianity. C3 Connect ‘leaders’ only know how to push their own ‘pringle’ version of the Bible and obey. The ‘supernatural’ NEW way to Christ is all they will ever be ‘taught’ and it is obviously counterfeit Christianity. As for the Briz CBBD, the ‘miracles’ deception is what is being promoted here most of all, along with ‘tithes’. Andrew Kubala is a visitor..say no more.
I often hear myself singing ‘bringing in the tithes’ more than bringing in the sheaves ..Pringle’s false prophecies are downplayed, and you will never catch G.Moore uttering a ‘prophecy’.
“Go make Disciples” to the c3 apostles [little ‘a ‘ to make it distinct from the Holy Apostles handpicked by Jesus Christ] means “go make tithers”.
This isn’t gossip, but real information and i am certain many c3 ‘theatre-goers’ recognise it.
“C3 Connect ‘leaders’ only know how to push their own ‘pringle’ version of the Bible and obey.”
You would think they would call their Connect notes ‘Watch Tower Notes” by now…
I’ve been advised by an attendee that between the current building fund and the first big one, there has been a massive reduction in the hardcore push on money for the fund. People got sick of it and left.
As for Kubala, I’ve always had a reservation about him. Maybe it’s because his surname sounds like Kabana.
Although maybe it’s because I saw the review [Edit: Dan Gorter] did of Kubala’s offering message where he said he believed we could “sow a seed” (there it is again!!) for someone’s salvation. You should watch the video; again, not slagging him himself but the doctrine is wrong.
……” there has been a massive reduction in the hardcore push on money for the fund. People got sick of it and left.”
For real mate?! They are still having their “big givers wine and dine night”. So if you give a certain amount you get taken to a launch dinner. Kind of like having a building fund corporate box.
As a matter of fact, I went to another large church very similar to the c3BD one (but different denomination – very different), and having spoken to members I can say with much confidence that there’s no way they would be doing over the top building fund plans and high roller dinners.
In fact despite not going there much, people at the church say you’ll rarely hear the minister talk about money, maybe with the exception of the building expansion. Is it possible? Wow, amazing hey!
“a massive reduction in the hardcore push on money “. That is most DEFINITELY not a C3 ‘service’. I am actually surprised that the C3 ‘faithful’ aren’t issued with their very own C3 credit card displaying ‘anointed pringle artwork’ for ‘a love offering’ at very moderate interest rates of course.
Yes.. that should have been “I think you already know…”