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[Edit 29/08/2015: Broken original images repaired.]
We have recorded Kong Hee stating that “Sun is not a pastor“. But we have recorded Sun Hee say ‘I know that I represent City Harvest Church‘, when expressing her gratitude of Phil Pringle’s involvement with their affairs. She said this at Phil Pringle’s C3 Presence Conference 2012. So is Sun Hee a pastor not? What is her position in all this?
Ian.OnTheRedDot shines a bit of light on Sun’s position in City Harvest Church,
Is She Pastor Ho Yeow Sun?
Is Ho Yeow Sun a pastor? If you are familiar with City Harvest Church, you probably would not have missed the controversy that surrounded her when she entered the secular music industry; a controversy based on arguments that it was inappropriate for a pastor to do so. I’ve read that the church leaders have in recent years sought to distance her from the tag ‘pastor’. Personally, I have encountered this possible policy a few years back when I noticed that the church bulletin started addressing her differently.
That to me was rather disappointing – disappointing because of an article published by the magazine Harvest Times.
I found this magazine when i was packing for the moving of my house. The last scan shows that when she first started her career, there was the deliberate positioning to associate her as a music/singing pastor.
(From: Is She Pastor Ho Yeow Sun?, Ian On The Red Dot, http://ian.onthereddot.com/2008/10/19/is-she-pastor-ho-yeow-sun/, 19/10/2008. (Accessed: 03/07/2012.))
While a reader commented, “Although yeah her husband is the pastor and she did help out in church, I think the label Pastor Sun was totally media created,” (Spankalot, 20-Oct-08 at 9:23 am), the writer of the article stated:
“the magazine was published by the church. So the pastor tag was definitely not media created… the magazine is an old one… long before the controversy started… I’m disappointed because I used to support her and what she was doing based on the premise that it was a pastor who was entering the secular music industry to make a difference there and not be part of it. Now that the pastor tag has been dropped, it seems the original reason has been lost.” – iantimothy, 12:31, 21/10/2008.
Looks like the Sun came out!
Looking at the pictures you have provided, it is impossible to dismiss that it’s all about a personalty cult of Sun Ho. What is really delicious is that she, Kong Hee and the rest of the CHC innermost circle apparently believe that she is anything by a superficial, immature, narcissistic bimbo whom hubby Kong Hee apparently dotes and kisses the ground that she trod on with all these media worshipping!
Who in the world is Sun Hee? There is Kong Hee and Ho Yeow Sun/Sun Ho.
“There is […] Ho Yeow Sun/Sun Ho”
Two names? How many faces, then?
This is what the money allegedly funded.
I don’t want to comment on where the money may have come from, but I *will* say that if it’d been my hard-earned that had funded that, I’d certainly be demanding a refund…
Take a look at the 40 sec sequence of the video clip on china wine above. The couple is simulating copulation!
Sun Hee’s Position,
18 Then I saw another angel descending from heaven, possessing great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his radiance and splendor.
2 And he shouted with a mighty voice, She is fallen! Mighty Babylon is fallen! She has become a resort and dwelling place for demons, a dungeon haunted by every loathsome spirit, an abode for every filthy and detestable bird.
3 For all nations have drunk the wine of her passionate unchastity, and the rulers and leaders of the earth have joined with her in committing fornication (idolatry), and the businessmen of the earth have become rich with the wealth of her excessive luxury and wantonness.
4 I then heard another voice from heaven saying, Come out from her, my people, so that you may not share in her sins, neither participate in her plagues.
5 For her iniquities (her crimes and transgressions) are piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her wickedness and [her] crimes [and calls them up for settlement].
6 Repay to her what she herself has paid [to others] and double [her doom] in accordance with what she has done. Mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed [for others].
7 To the degree that she glorified herself and reveled in her wantonness [living deliciously and luxuriously], to that measure impose on her torment and anguish and tears and mourning. Since in her heart she boasts, I am not a widow; as a queen [on a throne] I sit, and I shall never see suffering or experience sorrow—
8 So shall her plagues (afflictions, calamities) come thick upon her in a single day, pestilence and anguish and sorrow and famine; and she shall be utterly consumed (burned up with fire), for mighty is the Lord God Who judges her.
9 And the rulers and leaders of the earth who joined her in her immorality (idolatry) and luxuriated with her will weep and beat their breasts and lament over her when they see the smoke of her conflagration.
10 They will stand a long way off, in terror of her torment, and they will cry, Woe and alas, the great city, the mighty city, Babylon! In one single hour how your doom (judgment) has overtaken you!
11 And earth’s businessmen will weep and grieve over her because no one buys their freight (cargo) any more.
12 Their merchandise is of gold, silver, precious stones, and pearls; of fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet [stuffs]; all kinds of scented wood, all sorts of articles of ivory, all varieties of objects of costly woods, bronze, iron, and marble;
13 Of cinnamon, spices, incense, ointment and perfume, and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, fine flour and wheat; of cattle and sheep, horses and conveyances; and of slaves (the bodies) and souls of men!
14 The ripe fruits and delicacies for which your soul longed have gone from you, and all your luxuries and dainties, your elegance and splendor are lost to you, never again to be recovered or experienced!
15 The dealers who handled these articles, who grew wealthy through their business with her, will stand a long way off, in terror of her doom and torment, weeping and grieving aloud, and saying,
16 Alas, alas for the great city that was robed in fine linen, in purple and scarlet, bedecked and glittering with gold, with precious stones, and with pearls!
17 Because in one [single] hour all the vast wealth has been destroyed (wiped out). And all ship captains and pilots, navigators and all who live by seafaring, the crews and all who ply their trade on the sea, stood a long way off,
18 And exclaimed as they watched the smoke of her burning, What city could be compared to the great city!
19 And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and grieved, exclaiming, Woe and alas, for the great city, where all who had ships on the sea grew rich [through her extravagance] from her great wealth! In one single hour she has been destroyed and has become a desert!
20 Rejoice (celebrate) over her, O heaven! O saints (people of God) and apostles and prophets, because God has executed vengeance for you upon her!
21 Then a single powerful angel took up a boulder like a great millstone and flung it into the sea, crying, With such violence shall Babylon the great city be hurled down to destruction and shall never again be found.
22 And the sound of harpists and minstrels and flute players and trumpeters shall never again be heard in you, and no skilled artisan of any craft shall ever again be found in you, and the sound of the millstone shall never again be heard in you.
23 And never again shall the light of a lamp shine in you, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall never be heard in you again; for your businessmen were the great and prominent men of the earth, and by your magic spells and poisonous charm all nations were led astray (seduced and deluded).
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all those who have been slain (slaughtered) on earth.
What Is Sun Hee’s Position…?
After watching the Chine Wine video may I suggest….
A common myth states that the term “missionary position” arose in response to Christian missionaries, who taught that the position was the only proper way to engage in sexual intercourse. This explanation probably originated from Alfred Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male through a confluence of misunderstandings and misinterpretations of historical documents. Tuscans refer to the position as “The Angelic Position” while some Arabic-speaking groups call it “the manner of serpents”.
And here she is singing “Your presence is heaven to me” at CHC April 2013.
she has to create a platform for herself wherever she goes ……. so wrong.