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Credit goes to C3CW for getting me access to the footage from Presence Conference 2012. Cheers.
[I apologise in advance for the occasional skipping. Its a little bit of a rough edit, but everything’s there.]
Here is my next review on the C3 Church movement. The theme of this review is ‘the price of a human soul’. I review Andrew Kubala’s statements at Presence Conference 2012, namely, that we can sow a financial ‘seed’ offering for the salvation of our loved ones. I point out that no amount of money can buy salvation, and that the redemptive price of a human soul is the blood of Jesus Christ ALONE shed on the cross. It is ONLY by Christ’s sacrifice that sinners are saved; this one offering accomplished salvation once for all and is never to be repeated.
Please share this video with anyone you know who attends a C3 Church affiliated with Phil Pringle or Andrew Kubala, especially if they attended this year’s Presence Conference 2012 (April 10-13, Darling Harbour Convention Centre, Sydney)
paul kenny said:
hi , well no doubt the c3 cult roles on. iwas a member of the c3 mandurah , affilated with rockingham in perth wa. all was cool at the begining until they changed the house meetings ,,,,connect groups . the pastor and his wife decided meetings at their house and the men in one room women in another . the agenda was read some prepared literature and discuss . 2 pages to go through . unfortunately for them i questioned the intro and first topic
.apparently jesus spoke about money money money , 85 percent of the time hmmmmm . and that our spiritual growth is determined by how much money we give to the church C3 . we didnt get any further that night , for the next hour i challenged them , at one stage a senior elder stood over me . its a long story , but during the week i went to head office rockingham and had a one to one with richard the pastor . im sure you no the outcome . he expressed how i was a man of principles and also very emotional .hmmmmmmmmmm .yes i was ,and so was jesus , remember the time he cleaned the temple out . he would not back down and said the teachings came from the top . he wouldnt get the bible out and go through his doctrines. i explained that if he continued preaching false doctrine i would stand up in the next meeting [sunday] and challenge him . i was not allowed back ,thank god , sothe cult grows and the sheep are blinded . many of my friends are members . friends hmmmmm they avoid me like the plague . god help them ipray in jesus name. regards paul
@Paul Kenny – “You’re too emotional” is a standard stick to beat the sheeple with in controlling churches – it can be rather effective in getting people to really second guess themselves.
Hope you’ve found a good church to attend.
paul kenny said:
no , havent found a church yet its been 8 months . but i do have some genuine christian brothers and sisters in christ .got saved in 1986 , grounded in the word , but got coaxed into c3 by a friend . i new from the start it would ,not be my cup of tea . but stayed in hope and i did meet some beautiful people , thanks for the feedback . look up jesus is coming ,
Hi Paul – I am feeling your pain. Good churches in Perth are hard to find – don’t waste your time with the “mainline” apostate organisations like C3. I would like to help you to find your feet, as it were, if you like, let me know I am South of the River myself.
paul kenny said:
thanks ryan , are you going to a church south of perth ?
Sorry for the delay replying. Yes going to a small Baptist congregation south of river. I am not sure of your theological convictions or persuasions – are you Pentecostal? If so, I’m not sure I can help you given that I am ex-pente..
paul kenny said:
hi ryan , yes im still pentecostal as in speaking in tongues , etc i understand your position and appreciate your input , im not looking for a pentecostal chuch , most of what goes on in them is a concern , however i do speak in tongues and always will, so i no that does not fit some churchs , but god is good and love always wins , so i look forward to catching up one day ,i have baptists friends and many from other denominations . regards paul
Flicking through the channels and stopped on 4ME for a few minutes. On Psychic TV they have ‘psychics’ who claim to be ‘healers’. You can be ‘healed’ for $5.45 per minute via a 1900 number, and get your fortune read too. Total shonks, but at least they are not saying they are Christians nor are doing or saying anything in Jesus Name.