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A commentor had this to say about Pringle and his leaders,
“and they use the pulpit to defend themselves against any criticism, knowing that the families whom they have damaged have no way to bring them to account . They get rid of them out of the church if possible so that the “problem” is dealt with quietly and without too much fuss.” (Source)
Watch the clip below to see how Pringle mocks and maligns Christians who may think critically or question his church. In this clip, it is in fact Pringle that is the slanderer from behind the pulpit demonising Christians unfairly and unashamedly teaching demonic doctrines that pervert the gospel and the ministry of the local church, (thanks to Yonggi Cho).
Readers should notice that Pringle doesn’t want to hear people’s criticisms. And after Pringle’s immoral behaviour over the Warragamba Dam Prophecy propaganda, people should not fall for his church’s crafty marketing schemes. If people in his church saw instances where Pringle stoops to such manipulative conduct and think, “I’m not buying this,” Pringle would say they are in the camp of the devil.
Is this not mind control? Is this not behaviour control?
Don’t you think this what a cult would behave like?
“And listen to me! When you’re thinking about and talking about this church, you speak it up amen! Build the church! Don’t tear the thing down! That place is changing peoples lives! They are changing this community! They are touching people all around the world for goodness sake! Today it might be easy but there’s – I can guarantee you something’s going to happen in the next twelve months that will make you think ‘uuh-ahhh, I’m not buying this, uuh-ahhh’.
Resolve on the inside. You’re gonna be a builder with your mouth and not a destroyer. On the side of the throne of God is Jesus the Intercessor, praying for you and me. On the other side is the Accuser of the Brethren. Day and night. We choose which side we’re gonna be on. Every day of our life. I’m speaking up the people of God or I’m on the other side with the other guy, pulling them down.
So if you’re into the Facebook thing and you’re online right now and you’re sort of [mocks] ‘un-yunylunylun’ – amen! I’m talking to you! Thank you Jesus! Amen?”
– Ps Phil Pringle: Fresh Start – Beginnings AM, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-fresh-start-beginnings-am, C3 Church Oxford Falls, 05/02/2012.
It’s ironic that Pringle demonises Christians who actually do their best to practice biblical discernment while he peddles pagan teachings in his next breath. If you would like to see the pagan demonic or even shamanistic or occultic teachings that Pringle and Yonggi Cho peddle, read the following articles, or read D.R. McConell’s book ‘A Different Gospel’.
Phil Pringle And David Yonggi Cho
The ‘Secret’ to Phil Pringle’s Doctrine of ‘Faith’
Phil Pringle Influenced By Occult/ New Thought/ Metaphysical Cult Teachings
Phil Pringle, Napoleon Hill… And Chuck Norris
Phil Pringle And Kenneth Copeland
Andrew Mackinnon said:
If one figures out who Kenneth Copeland is and one figures out who Benny Hinn is and then one figures out that the reason Phil Pringle has endorsed both of these men is not because he is naive but because he is exactly like them, then one has solved the puzzle. To solve the puzzle, one needs a fervent desire to obtain truth, which is something that has never been particularly popular or esteemed in the church in Australia. This is why the church in Australia has made such poor progress over the past twenty years. I warn you that truth is often stranger than fiction and it has no respect for your sensibilities or preconceptions.
The truth is that Phil Pringle is not a Christian at all but is simply pretending to be a Christian in order to deceive the church and lead the church astray. One facet of this deception is that he is using the church of Jesus Christ as a cash-cow to provide himself with a passive income. I admire the ability of C3 Church Watch to detect Phil Pringle’s manipulation of church members in order to influence them to give as much money as possible to the church. It took me many years to detect it because I accepted his explanation for many years that he wants people to give in order to build the church. Like many Christians in church, I wanted to believe the best. However, this is simply the plausible explanation that Phil Pringle hides behind in order to derive a passive income for himself from the church. All effective deception relies upon plausible deniability.
Phil Pringle cites the progress of C3 church as a reason not to criticise C3 church, but it is not really C3 church that is being criticised as much as Phil Pringle himself, individually. C3 Church Oxford Falls doesn’t flourish at times because Phil Pringle is leading it. It flourishes at times because there are plenty of Christians who attend C3 Church Oxford Falls and because Jesus Christ said that where two or more are gathered together in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
C3 Church Watch has thoroughly intimidated Phil Pringle. I admire C3 Church Watch for its perseverance and I encourage you to continue working on this issue until it is resolved. In fact, you have already made it obvious that this is your intention. This is the kind of resolve and mettle that is sorely needed in the church today and that makes Christians smile broadly.
If Christians in their twenties and thirties today can detach themselves from the influence of deceivers like Phil Pringle from their lives, then they can break this pattern of deception that has reigned in the church in the western world over the past twenty years and longer and point the church in an entirely new direction towards truth. This is what absolutely must occur if the church is to have any meaningful future. This is the current period of transition that the church finds itself in today.
I’d like to know what the “something’s going to happen in the next twelve months” is…or do you think he’s relating to this/similar websites?
How can the devil be “next to the throne?” I thought he wandered to and fro in the earth seeking whom he may devour? I guess whichever scenario suits the message is what the Christian minister will employ. Makes sense!
Any practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life or the institutional traditions of the church than on theology and spiritual teachings; The quality of being too church-focused.
“And listen to me! When you’re thinking about and talking about this church, you speak it up amen! Build the church! Don’t tear the thing down! That place is changing peoples lives!”
I thought talking was speaking.Anyhow,
The quiet words of the wise are more to be heeded
than the shouts of a ruler of fools.(Ecclesiastes 17)
I resolve that Pringle has faith in church,is too self-confident,has an overwelming desire to be noticed by everyone and loves to act tough behind the protection of his precious, perishing pulpit.Seems like Pringles definition of changing lives is merely nose counting.Christ is my redeemer,not C3.
“’un-yunylunylun’ – amen! I’m talking to you! Thank you Jesus! Amen?”
Pringle tries to justify his gobbledygook by using Jesus name.
The scripture above should read- Ecclesiastes 9:17.(derrrrr)
paul kenny said:
as in the days of noah , not many looking up , redemption draws near . so many following the phil pringles , benny hinn , copeland and many more . money money money thats all that matters to them , ive witnessed it , false teachers , false prophets , the c3 pastors have fallen under their spell , so its only a matter of time , god has always had to deal with those that play religion and manipulate to become rich . repentance real repentance is the only thing that can save them ,in jesus name repent ,
Feels to me like paranoia. My suspicion is Phil doesn’t really give a damn about you. If Phil wrote a blog post as out of context and paranoid as this, you’d rip him to pieces. Perhaps hold yourself to the same standard as you hold him.
I’m no defender of Phil, just not a fan of double standards and hypocrisy – his or yours.
paul kenny said:
amen , yes i am guilty of sin , and i admit it ,but thank god for his righteousness which i accept as grace ,and so i repent and rejoice in his forgiveness , not so those who will be judged as leaders .they are slow to repent . dear commenter please have the courage to put your name where your comments are .
That guy said:
Yes, it’s always annoying, these people who don’t use their real names… “Commenter”, “That guy”… “Churchwatcher”…
Get over it you fool
paul kenny said:
lol , some people just cant face themselves in the mirror .
paul kenny said:
hey that guy , still hiding in your hole , come out of the dark into the light ‘ let your light shine , lets catch up ,
The only thing satanic is phil Pringle his embarrassingly weird carnal wife and most of the c3 leaders. Phil Pringle is operating under the control of demons he is spiritually dirty. Funfunny how he always abuses people about their sin when he is riddled with sin. He destroys people’s lives is rude arrogant manipulative controlling and unclean. C3 churches are carnal worldly sleazy and ungodly. MY ADVICE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY C3 CHURCH THEY ARE A CULT AND WIlL POISON YOU AND BULLY YOU SO THEY CAN CONTROL YOU THE DEVIL IS LAUGHING
I would like to express that one must be extremely careful when criticizing church leaders. They are put there by God to protect the people as men and women who must give an account to God. Usually they have a leadership team or oversight of whom they are accountable and unless u r in that position you need to be careful not to complain against leaders as that is the same as complaining against God and he takes it very seriously and you may reap judgement on yourself. For example in the bible when the people began to complain against Moses. I totally agree that if what u have to say isn’t building up Gods church then you must hold your tongue and let those in authority gently instruct and correct. :0)
That ”touch not the Lord’s annointed” is addressed in the ebook”lies my pastor told me”
http://bit.ly/mypastorlied. Or Google the title, very easily found.
Leah follow the Bereans’ example instead. (Acts 17:11) God expects us to use our brain.
Also, what makes you think that he takes a salary from the church. He is an artist in his own right and as I understand gives a lot more than he receives . I personally have been tremendously blessed by this mans ministry and it grieves me that u would talk about him in this way.
I cannot believe that you question whether Pringle takes a salary from the church! Leah, you need a GIANT reality check and I suggest you IMMEDIATELY check into the finances of Pringle’s church if that is where you attend. Some 20 years ago my Pastor, who was in charge of a branch of Pringle’s church was taking a salary of approximately $52,000.00 per annum from the church (TWENTY years ago – that was a VERY substantial salary!!!!)………….. BUT all his personal bills were paid for by the church as ‘extras’ and that salary was just cream! Morgages, utility bills, gas, car, and more – EVERYTHING provided through the tithes of hard-working people. I can only imagine Mr. Pringle would not have been so slack as to not know what his subordinate pastors were doing in their own churches? Get with it Leah, you are no doubt a lovely, Christian lady with a good heart but OH so naive!!!!! Before you jump in to defend someone I suggest you check your facts.
And when our Pastor was feeling the pinch he used to tell everyone how tight things were for him financially – then of course, the lovely Christian folk who attended his church would give him “love gifts” to help him out. The biggest “con” ever thrust upon hard-working Christians by Pastors is this ‘love gift’ sham. Taxed???? HUH!!!!! Leah, please wake up and smell the roses! I cannot honestly believe that you think Mr. Pringle lives in the style in which he does, financed from his earning off his “art” work! I do not wish to appear unkind, Leah, but you really must live in “fairyland”. How is it you understand he gives more than he receives? Please use your common sense. If that were case how could he afford to live as he does? No one can exist giving more than they receive! That would indeed be a modern day miracle!!!!!
“He is an artist in his own right […]”
Indeed; he can paint almost as well as a four year old. He writes books as well, but he’s a bit better at that – his facility with the English language approaches that of a fifteen year old.
“[…] as I understand gives a lot more than he receives”.
And how would anyone know that, unless Phil is trumpeting his largesse and performing his “good works” in the sight of men? It’s obvious you haven’t read your Bible, where it is written “But when you give to someone in need, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.” (Jesus was the one who said that – do you think that perhaps Phil knows more than Jesus does?)
Surely , that i can sing, dance and act so much better than heaps more people then i.(Not that i am saying that i am the best. But i am just saying that i have so much more of a better chance then everyone else). Surely then i can rise to the top of the VANITY STAKES!
Some moderation is needed in the C3 Church to stop Phil Pringle and clones such as Steve Warren taking offensive offerings for miracles, health and wealth. They are obsessed with’finances and the wealth of this world’ – and see Church as a pyramid scheme to bring the percentage take from each Church daft enough to fly the C3 banner.
Hi. I have been attending c 3 city campus for 2 and half years and tonight’s service was the last for me.I was diagnosed with Motor Nueron Disease 1 year ago with a prognosis of 2-3 years. There is some genuine people who I have formed good relationships with. I take my kids to the kids church every Sunday and feel it has been good for them but tonight I realised that this is the only reason I was going and I know I have to go for myself as well. The alarm bells started to ring 2 years ago when pringle made smart comments about the Catholics and how many baptisms are only sprinklings of holy water which really offends the Catholics.I felt embarrassed . I am currently goin thru family law court to gain sole custody of my children and I mentioned this to Arne the pastor and he asked me, ‘if you need any money for legal bills we can take it out of the precense conference’ and I turned him down . He then stated to ‘let me know when court is and I will come to every hearing’ which I was grateful for . 6 months down the track I decided to ask Arne if ‘the church could still help with legal bill ‘ and his response was ‘I did not say that’ and I reminded him that he did and he tried to convince me that he didn’t .he had me second guessing. I let it go. Then I approached him again to see if he still wanted to go to court as a hearing was coming up and his response was, ‘I’m goin cycling on that day’ ,so I give up on him.He out right lied on both occasions. This happened 1 year ago. I still have family law goin and God has provided a way and means towards my legal bills. 5 weeks ago I asked for a character ref from kids church just to state that ‘the children attend every Sunday and they present well etc’ and I was told ‘we will have to talk to Arne’ then 2 weeks later I was told ‘Arne is looking into it’ and I have never heard a word. Arne is a ‘yes man’. I have sat thru whole sermons on Vision builders and presence conference where it is all about giving your cash. Kong Hee at Presence conference say ’empty your wallets’ and ’10 pc is not giving, that is Gods’ then I read he got caught for using 25 million to cover up the 25 million he spent on his wife singing career then I watched the utube clip of her and she is dressed like a porn star. Is this Christianity 2013 style ?according to c3 it is.C3 isn’t non profit . It’s a business. Pringle rolled up in a brand new BMW 500 series tonight with a minder. Jesus used a donkey.what gets me the most is the spin they put on scriptures and twist the meaning and it always goes back to giving according to c3. Would Jesus be invited to this church service?Pringle is a great sales man and that’s it.I cannot believe how many people are brainwashed by this guy.Pringle rambled on about how he wants a new 800 seat church for the city when there was lucky to be 150 this morning and 100 tonight. Good luck with that. God has been telling me to go to st Phillips for a year on York st and that where I’m heading with my kids.
@ Nathan, God still cares and understands your sufferings and challenges. C3 has proven one thing to you and all of us. We cannot look to man and especially cult leaders. Hebrews says “Looking unto Jesus , the author and finisher of our faith.” Praying and believing that you will overcome all obstacles.