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Previously on C3 Church Watch,
C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor Facing Prison (Part 1)
C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor “Pleads Guilty In Bank Fraud Case” (Part 2)
THE SHOW MUST GO ON
Jesus said,
“Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy…” Luke 12:1
Jesus often labeled the Pharisees of his days as false teachers and false prophets. He also called them hypocrites. In the greek, a hypocrite was someone who was an actor. What we’ve seen in the C3 Asheville scandal is show after show, starring the US C3 Leadership.
From what we know, Nick Dimitris is still the current Pastor at C3 Asheville. A few months ago, Nick Dimitris retweeted ‘C3 Church Asheville’:
“Everywoman event at C3 Church Asheville 7pm tonight w/ special guest, Jill Sweetman – 40 Haywood Street, downtown.pic.twitter.com/V4fsdpTC“
(Source: Retweeted by Nick Dimitris, https://twitter.com/nickdimitris, 10/11/2012. Accessed 28/01/2013.)
If Nick Dimitris is still the Pastor of C3 Asheville one has to ask the question: Why is Jill Sweetman allowing Dimitris to remain a C3 Pastor and speaking at his Everywoman Conference?
From what we’re seeing, the Sweetman’s have no problem allowing C3 Pastor Nick Dimitris pull the wool over his congregations eyes after the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corp) accused him of bank fraud. In fact, they further endorse him by speaking at his conferences.
Furthermore, Dimitris tweeted the following last year in early January:
“Day 3 of the 7 Days of Praise is tonight at 7pm! We are praying over people for provision, resource & blessing. Bring everyone u can!!”
(Source: Nick Dimitris, https://twitter.com/nickdimitris/status/154281827463471104, 04/01/2012. Accessed 28/01/2013.)
“Many special guests tonight at the 7 Days of Praise [7pm] >> Financial miracles, anointing for increase… Get ready for more then enough!”
(Source: Nick Dimitris, https://twitter.com/nickdimitris/status/154337207371579392, 04/01/2012. Accessed 28/01/2013.)
“”7 Days of Praise” – Praying over people for unity, reconciliation & restoration in relationships. God can restore everything! 7pm”
(Source: Nick Dimitris, https://twitter.com/nickdimitris/status/155039353440174080, 06/01/2012. Accessed 28/01/2013.)
In the tweets, Dimitris is expecting that “financial miracles”, “anointing for increase”, “unity, reconciliation & restoration in relationships” happen and “provision, resource & blessing” occur in his 7 Days of Praise event. Yet what has Dimitris done to fix the people he financially exploited in his congregation? What has he done to fix the division, bitterness and hurt he caused in his skulduggery? Why didn’t the Sweetman’s step in and prevent this smokescreen praise event from occuring? Why are the Sweetman’s speaking at Dimitris’ conferences and not dealing with their C3 Asheville Pastor for committing bank fraud?
NICK DIMITRIS ON RECORD
What makes this behaviour disturbing by Dimitris and the Sweetman’s was that the FDIC accused C3 Church Pastor Dimitris of bank fraud less then a month ago when the 7 Day of Praise event was put on. The below public record (stamped 05/12/2011), shows Dimitris pleading guilty under oath to conspiracy to commit bank fraud.
Public Record: Dimitris Pleads Guilty
Key points from this document indicate that Nicholas Dimitris:
- “Did willfully embezzle, abstract, purloin and willfully misapply any of the moneys, funds, or credits of Pisgah Community Bank, in that you did procure and obtain as a straw borrower a series of straw borrower loans and that you recruited other persons to obtain straw borrower loans”.
- “… willfully became a member of that conspiracy”.
- Acted “… knowingly, intentionally, unlawfully and willfully.”
Nick Dimitris responded to the following questions.
“Are you in fact guilty of the count in the bill of information to which you have come to court today to plead guilty? That is, did you commit the act(s) described in count one of the bill of information?
YES”
“Is your plea of guilty voluntary and not the result of coercion, threats or promises other that those contained in the written plea agreement?
YES”
Sentencing has not happened in this case yet.
NICK DIMITRIS’ QUALIFICATIONS
Dimitris offers some revealing information about his “education”.
It is stated,
“… Then did a ‘correspondence'(?) out of Beacon University in Columbus Georgia. The defendant says he has enough credits for a Bachelor Degree in Theology.”
Does Beacon University sound familiar? Oddly enough, our previous investigation into Dale Bronner revealed that the US courts exposed Beacon University (Christian Life ) to be a diploma mill and agreed in court to “refund tuition” and no longer award degrees. This would explain why Dimitris said he has enough credits for a Bachelor Degree in Theology.
RealMen With False Doctorates (Who Is Dale Bronner?)
This is a really sad thing to see in the C3 Churches of America. Please pray that the situation over in Asheville is resolved. C3 Church Watch will keep you posted as to whether the United States of America sentences this C3 pastor to prison or not.
C3 Church Watch 
The question is will he be the new C3 pastor of jail ministry or will Parole Pastor Dimitris have difficulty getting to conference with out permission from his parole officer? Ankle bracelets must be hard to preach in.(sarcasm off)
The sad thing is that the “over site” will probably step in after sentencing, much too long after a shameful pastor has dragged the church through the mud in the eyes of that town and who knows how many people will have been turned off to Christ by their inaction.
Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan.
Even the mayor of that city has groaned at this twisted leader. My prayer is that righteousness will be put back in authority and the people can rejoice again.
Eh guys, any update on the sentencing?
April.
6 Asheville Newspaper articles and counting for Nicholas Dimitris.
Bellamy donates tainted funds
Apr 20, 2012 | Ostendorff, Jon … years in prison for his part in a bank fraud scheme involving real estate investors. Nicholas Dimitris, who leads C3 Church on Merrimon Avenue, pleaded guilty in December to conspiracy …
Not guilty pleas filed in Seven Falls case
Dec 19, 2012 | Morrison, Clarke … Bank officials Robert Craig Gourlay and David G. Smith and minister and real estate investor Nicholas Dimitris. In the early 1980s, Vinson served just over two years in prison in …
2 more charged in Seven Falls case
Dec 7, 2012 | Morrison, Clarke … Bank officials Robert Craig Gourlay and David G. Smith and minister and real estate investor Nicholas Dimitris …
Ex-bank chief told to pay $9M
Aug 2, 2012 | Morrison, Clarke … Bank officials Robert Craig Gourlay and David G. Smith and minister and real estate investor Nicholas Dimitris. Greenwood had been prominent in local banking circles for years. He was appointed …
Ex-banker gets 4-year sentence
May 11, 2012 | Morrison, Clarke … Bank officials Robert Craig Gourlay and David G. Smith and minister and real estate investor Nicholas Dimitris. Greenwood had been prominent in local banking circles for years. He was appointed …
Seven Falls builder charged
Apr 10, 2012 | Barrett, Mark … ” Greenwood, former Pisgah Community Bank officials Robert Craig Gourlay and David G. Smith, and Nicholas Dimitris, a minister and real estate investor. The new indictment refers to each of …
Sentencing hearing March 8th. Judgement to follow…
Correction Law Dog; March 8th is a hearing for a motion to remove his attorney. The request states that the prosecution says there is a conflict of representation. Perhaps the prosecution has noticed that his lawyer potentially was a co-conspirator on falsifying loan documents on down payments for home purchases in another development. If that proves to be the case, it would explain why Dimitiris has no money and yet still had an attorney up to this point.
1 Corinthians 15:33
Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good morals.”
Notice reads:
NOTICE OF HEARING ON MOTION in case as to Nicholas Dimitris [21] MOTION to Withdraw as Attorney by Ronald C True. : Motion Hearing set for 3/8/2013 11:00 AM
Request reads:
2. At a recent meeting with the U.S. Attorney’s office and its
agents, concerns were expressed as to a potential conflict
with the undersigned’s continued representation of Defendant.
3. The undersigned, having considered the government’s concerns,
concurs that there may very well be a possible potential
conflict.
4. The undersigned has discussed the matter with Defendant, and
believes that the Defendant understands the basis for this
Motion.
“Laura Ensley”
The filing that you posted was written 2-26-13. He never made it to the hearing. Ron True died 3-3-13.
I have just viewed the death certificate for Ronald Carl True, the lawyer for Nicholas Dimitris, suffered a self inflicted gun shot wound to the head. He apparently committed suicide days after the attorney general notified him of the conflict with representing Nicholas Dimitris. Tragic.
Yep, that sounds like it could be “potentially” correct. Thanks Laura. If only the people that attend C3 Asheville or the “leadership” in Atlanta knew how deep the rabbit trail actually goes. They know very little.
Well Nick Dimitiris’ High Crimes and misdemeanors continue. His defiant behavior to disregard the law has now included a law violation that has posted against his probation. Speeding doing 86 MPH in a 60 MPH limit. I understand that a speeding ticket may be just a traffic violation, but add that to the string of law defying behaviors of Pastor Fast and Furious and one could speculate that he may have an illness.
Perhaps he could be diagnosed as Pastor ODD. Oppositional Defiance Disorder. Yes that must be it, if we can put a name on it and call it a disorder then it would make sense why C3 allows this virtue challenged leader to continue as pastor. How ODD that this man is still posing as a pastor. I’m sure his ODD therapy includes sleeping pills to overcome his conscience and anti-anxiety meds to battle the reoccurring thoughts of the law catching up to him.
His ego may have convinced him that he is the authority and is above the law but governmental authority is the servant of God. Woe to him who repeatedly defies God’s servant with wrong doing.
Romans 13:4 For the one in authority (Police) is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Maybe at sentencing his public defender can enter an ODD plea.
Case 1:11-cr-00093-MR-DLH Document 26 Filed 03/20/13
From a source close to Dimitris, Dimitris routinely receives up to hundreds of dollars in parking fines a month because he believes himself to be above the law. I wonder if the good tithers of C3 know their tithes have perhaps gone to pay for parking fines. It’s easier for this high flyer to pay the fines than to do what everyone else does and park legally. Whether a parking fine, a speeding fine or pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit bank fraud, he has a way of justifying it in his own mind and doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong and will convince any willing sap that he is innocent even after he has entered a guilty plea.
Why is it that you guys are attacking this guy like a bunch of vultures? if you truly trust God then you know that He holds all justice. From the looks of what church watch has put up here and what others have posted this pastor will get his just reward. Whether in this world or in the next. Leaders of the faith carry a greater burden of judgement the Bible says but I don’t think it says that it will be from the scorn of parishioners.
As someone mentioned earlier the law is God’s servant. But who are you to judge another mans servant? If you don’t agree with him or think that he is immoral then just vote with your feet. i’m sure there are good churches in your area that you can go to and honor God. i don’t see how bashing this guy who looks like he is on his way down the drain is honorable at all. If he is your enemy then maybe you should follow Jesus’ advice and love him. Has he done you wrong? Pray for those who spitefully use you. Have you endured unto blood? You talk of him affecting the reputation of Christ- i promise you Jesus is big enough to handle this guys sins along with yours, mine and the worlds.
This man may have done all the things posted here and he may end up in prison or whatever but he needs God’s grace not a Christian stoning. One day we all will stand before the Judgement seat of Christ and give an account of the things we have done and those things that have been done in the flesh will be burned up. From the looks of most of these postings they are some major kindling for your burnt offering.
“Why is it that you guys are attacking this guy like a bunch of vultures?”
Wrong question. You should be asking why Phil Pringle and his henchmen are attacking Christ and his church like a pack of wolves.
“But who are you to judge another mans servant?”
And there you are… forcing a pagan practice on Christianity to shut up. Please do a bible study on the subject of ‘judging’ in the New Testament. There are petty judgments and rash judgments. However, we are called to judge a tree by it’s fruit, judge false teachers, shun them, mark them, avoid them, etc.
“Leaders of the faith carry a greater burden of judgement the Bible says…”
Sure do. That’s why C3 need to deal with this man as quickly as possible. For his sake and their sake. If you’d bother to read your bible you would actually realise how Christians should be addressing these issues biblically.
“i’m sure there are good churches in your area that you can go to and honor God.”
Not if C3 is devouring and rebranding them.
“I don’t see how bashing this guy who looks like he is on his way down the drain is honorable at all.”
Put your eyes on the c3 leadership. why is he still in leadership? there wouldn’t be any focus on this pastor if he did the right thing and stepped down. And financial scandals in the C3 movement seem to be quite frequent. When they don’t preach biblical Christianity and emphasise money and power in their messages – this is the type of nonsense you get.
“Has he done you wrong?”
Yes. To Christians everywhere. And dare I say he has done amazing wrong to the C3 Church movement by remaining a pastor in the C3 Asheville church. This is complete negligence on the Sweetman’s and the Pringle’s behalf. If they want to keep the image of C3 intact – they need to clean this up as soon as they can.
“This man may have done all the things posted here and he may end up in prison or whatever but he needs God’s grace not a Christian stoning.”
God’s grace would be given to him if he was defrocked and cast out of the church so he can figure out why his behaviour is wrong. Let the counselling start once he steps down. That’s where God’s grace can start in this man’s restoration.
You think we take joy in writing about this stuff? There is something rotten in the C3 Church movement and this is just another case.
Churchwatcher, thanks for the pointer to study up on judgement. What a delightful topic that must be. I thought this thread was about the C3 Asheville Scandal not a general C3 bashing thread.
I think you are missing the point. The comments here sound like a bunch of folks pounding your fist on the table as if you were meant to be the righter of all wrongs. The protector of the “Christian Realm”. Shooting up the bad guys with your bible bullets. Does your Christianity not have a Lord? Are his hands tied that he is not able to take care of his own? Has the chastening of the Lord passed away?
Oh I get it, He’s using you to keep all things in order. So you’re the supreme fruit inspectors, i guess. The humble referee of Christendom. You scan the newspapers and internet following the gnats and there you are…rotten fruit EXPOSED. And where it is found it must be plucked and thrown from the tree.
The point is: rotten fruit fall to the ground and are worm food naturally. Yelling at the gardeners to hurry up and pluck the smelly fruit is, well just weird. (I guess if I did the judgement study i would get it)
I’m sure the post on here are meant to do good but yelling to the driver of a car as it goes over the cliff that he should go faster doesn’t make much since. All of this will come out in the end. I’m sure you have some good fruit you could be tending to instead of hawking for the rotten.
To ‘Billy Crawford’,
Are you a Christian? It is hard to tell if you are or not by your online ambiguity.
You come across as though you aren’t – which is concerning if you are.
Your analogies and mockery fall short when compared to the clear written instruction of God. You say,
“The comments here sound like a bunch of folks pounding your fist on the table as if you were meant to be the righter of all wrongs. The protector of the “Christian Realm”. Shooting up the bad guys with your bible bullets. Does your Christianity not have a Lord? Are his hands tied that he is not able to take care of his own? Has the chastening of the Lord passed away?”
Yet God says:
“Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. For certain individuals whose condemnation was written aboutb long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.” Jude 1:3-4
“Teach and urge these things. If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.
But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called and about which you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony befored Pontius Pilate made the good confession, to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.” 1 Timothy 6:2b-16
If you truly love God, where is your love for His word? Where is your obedience to his instructions?
Churchwatcher: thanks for the bible cut n’ paste. Not sure about your questioning my Christianity but I guess you are in full on “fruit inspection” mode. You pasted: “They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.” Jude 1:3-4(in part)
Are you applying this to Dimitris? If so please site his words that deny Jesus or pervert the grace of God. Audio would be preferred but quotes from witnesses would be acceptable, transcripts would be nice.
That a man got caught in a bad real estate deal that is tied to a major fraud case does not qualify him for the biblical judgement you have prescribed. If you were a doctor you would be sued for malpractice. Symptoms don’t match the prognosis or treatment.
Didn’t the Pharisees catch a woman in the act of adultery to put before Jesus? And what was his reply? I’m sure I could cut n paste it here but best i remember from sunday school and the jest of it was-“I don’t condemn you…. ” Yet you cut n paste the bible like a Pharisee applying the law without the spirit of the law.
If you have a real accusation to bring against this guy ‘dimitris’ (that is not being addressed by the courts) why don’t you make it plain? Stop hiding behind bible passages. Let’s hear what he has preached that is so abhorrent. Or testimony of heresy or how he has lead people into immorality. If you have evidence of these accusation let us hear what you know that we may judge as you have. But it seems that you only rant of associations and circumstance.
And if Jesus would have taken your approach he would have “defrocked” the adulterous woman and cast her from his site. I know she wasn’t a leader so maybe we should judge Peter- he bore false witnesses swearing he did not know Jesus. Liar liar pants on fire: yet next time Jesus talks to him,Jesus commissions him as a pastor to feed His Sheep.
Alert the presses; Messiah anoints Liar to be head of 1st Century Christian Church!
This could be another churchwatch article. But I guess that’s old news and peter finally got the message of grace right? But what about the overlay of Jewish circumcision being required by peter on the Gentiles? Where is the grace there? No, it took Paul to oppose Peter to his face for him to realize that he was misapplying the law on those who were covered in grace. If Peter, who walked with Jesus before the cross and after the resurrection, still got it wrong, do you think that you might consider that maybe you are not all THAT and a bag of chips?
You ask me if I love God and if I do, where is my love… I ask you a similar question, where is the love? Is not that the greatest of all commandments? Yet I neither hear nor sense your love for the fallen or the broken ONLY as you so eloquently cut n paste,
“… an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction…”
Even though Laura Ensley hangs on to her protectionist mindset AT LEAST she speaks her heart and doesn’t hide behind the bible.
Oh, and yes I do love the word of God but do hate when it’s used by bitter self righteous zealots to destroy people’s lives, distract people from truth and divide the church in the name of truth. But I will give you the grace you do not extend to others by considering that God is not done with you yet and I believe, like most of us, you are seeking to honor God and build his kingdom-not tear it down.
It is when we think that God’s grace is beyond another that we need it the most.
“[…] I do love the word of God but do hate when it’s used by bitter self righteous zealots to destroy people’s lives, distract people from truth and divide the church in the name of truth.”
I agree with you 100%, Billy.
I myself can’t stand the way that C3 pastors, of whom Nick Dimitris is a classic example, misuse the Bible in *just* the way that you describe.
Billy,
If only it were as simple as that. We are not “pounding our fist on the table” and this is not a case of one guy in C3 doing wrong. This is a cancer and you don’t just let cancer run it’s course or it will infect and kill the whole body. Nick Dimitris is a cancer in the Body of Christ. He has already ruined the lives of dozens of others and continues to destroy peoples lives under the cover of being a “pastor”. Right now he has convinced his small congregation that every fact that we have posted here is fiction. He has them believing that he was used by the Fed’s to get to “bigger fish” and that he- his words “has done no wrong”. His seducing power is so powerful over these innocent believers that they continue to pour their life savings into an organization that stands by felons. Some under his influence are funding the church with their legacy. These posts are not to rant on, as you described, the inevitability of his demise but to try and warn those who are completely duped by this deceiver. if it was just a matter of a rotten fruit falling from a tree we wouldn’t give much thought to it. But people’s lives and faith in the local church are being ravaged by this fallen pastor and destroyed with the betrayed trust they put in C3 leadership. It is not the driver of the car we are “yelling” at- it is the people unaware that are in the path of the car that we are trying to warn with facts.
As far as being, “Protector of the Christian Realm” we are actually not doing anything that an average person wouldn’t do to pull someone from a burning building or warn a neighbor of an impending storm. There’s no sense of pride or heroism here only neighborly care.
Billy, unfortunately you don’t know the whole story. If you did, you wouldn’t be siding with the one person who is destroying lives, you might be siding with the people who’s lives have been devastated by Nick Dimitris and the inaction of The Sweetmans.
Billy most likely attends C3 Asheville or a C3 somewhere. Perhaps he drank the Dimitris kool aid too and is defending him zealously.
People I know could bring cases against Dimitris but never will because they get branded by people like you Billy as – what did you say – bitter self righteous zealots (out) to destroy people’s lives, distract people from truth and divide the church in the name of truth – void of love for the broken – and the list goes on. Here’s a novel concept for you Billy, when pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit bank fraud, as a public figure, or more so as a pastor, you step down.
They’re good people Billy but THAT IS WHY they stay silent. At least church watcher has the guts to make a stand. They are marginalized, insulted and isolated, just like what you’re doing, and Dimitris and his ilk count on that for their very survival. The next round of people will never know because the first batch were silenced by people like you.
And hey Billy, what’s up with the whole vote with your feet thing? – I ask you this “Billy”, if you had spent 3 years of your life, 7 years, 3 decades of your life in C3 and you were faced with voting with your feet, do you know the damage that does to a person when they’re forced into having to do that? So many have had their entire identities wrapped up in C3 for so long, they have given religiously for all that time thousands upon thousands and all their friends are there, their lives are intertwined with the church they are forced to “vote with their feet” on. Get a freakin’ clue Billy. It’s easy to vote with your feet after 3 months, not so much after a decade…it affects your whole life and that of your kids, friends, family. Barely any relationships are left untouched by voting with your feet. How about the ability to vote a pastor out when he wrecks people’s worlds? You can’t be voted out when you own the franchise or there is no system of accountability.
Thanks for your defense of poor helpless Nick Dimitris who is so adept at playing the victim, say hi to him on Sunday and have a kool aid on me buddy.
Law Dog wrote:
” I have just viewed the death certificate for Ronald Carl True, the lawyer for Nicholas Dimitris, suffered a self inflicted gun shot wound to the head. He apparently committed suicide days after the attorney general notified him of the conflict with representing Nicholas Dimitris. Tragic
.And now a man is dead in association with this pastor of ill repute. It is clearly apparent that Nick Dimitris had created so much fraud that when his lawyer was confronted with it, the only way out he saw was to take his own life. This is far more than a church leader gone wrong who needs to step down.
This is deplorable! Hideously atrocious! This is demonic people. This is not some mis-deed of a “Real Estate transaction” This is the result of a wicked fraud perpetrated on the innocent by a maniacal pastor Nicholas Dimitris. People need to wake up to this man’s satanic influence and stop him from ruining lives.
A MAN IS DEAD. Will you just cover that up with christian sentiment? Dimitris’ fraud all but put the gun in Ronald True’s hand.
If you know anyone caught in this man’s web of deceit and fraud – for the love of God and all that is holy, you need to warn them and lead them to deliverance. IMO
Thank you for your truthful comments.
Does the word “grifter” sound familiar? Certainly reminds me of one, someone quite adept at the art of practicing deceit. And these types can generally spot easy targets in trusting environments.
The most disheartening thing about Nick Dimitris is that he makes people question their own ability to hear from God.
I know numerous families once in the C3 Asheville Church that had a “check in their spirit” about this man. When they brought their concerns to him, he not only snowballed them with an onslaught of lies and flattery, he spread the word that they had rebellious controlling “Jezebel Spirits.”
After all, how dare they question ANYTHING he does or says.
Many of these people stayed for a while, confused and praying for guidance. Yet after months in a hazy cloud of lies, labels, and passive aggressive behavior, they left.
No one leaves this place well. Even those once close to him who tried to bow out on good-terms are bashed ruthlessly in smaller circles.
It’s pretty sick. There is a long bloody trail of carnage behind this man.
I love Christ Jesus and his bride, but people like this make the bride-of-christ look really ugly. No wonder so many people in Asheville find the church repellent. It breaks my heart!
Why the Sweetmans don’t require a fraudulent pastor to step down and
Why a Felony pastor doesn’t resign:
You want to know why the Sweetmans don’t ask Nick Dimitris to step down? I’ll tell you my opinion. It’s because they would owe him thousands of dollars that he “sowed” into C3 Asheville while pastor.
While Nick was scamming everyone in town into believing he didn’t have any money to pay them for the work he had employed them to do in his 14 companies, he was filing his tax returns to get over a $100,000 from the IRS. He then spent that money on plastering billboards all over town for C3, buying lavish equipment and remodeling buildings that he didn’t have the right to be in.
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And to leverage his “investment” to greater gains he told other big givers in the church how much he was “sowing” into the church to make them feel like they should go “all in” as well. His criminal skills in pulling straw buyers into real estate investments translates nicely at C3. Only HIS “all in” belonged to the dozens of people he failed to pay from his bankrupt companies. But that’s real estate 101- use other peoples money.
What a great exit strategy he had devised. Stiff the community who took him at his word in business and in most cases had contract commitments, so that he could be seen as a big spender in C3. And everyone in C3 knows that the more you can give to C3 the more “anointed” you are. And the more “anointed” the higher up you go in the organisation.
Nicks high roller spending spree of other peoples money clearly helped C3 with their branding and they would be “indebted” to Nick for his “loan” to the church if they asked him to step down so they had to keep him in place. And more than keep him in place, they chose to back up his lies, deceit and fraud or face a financial bill in the thousands. And since the all mighty american dollar is the lord of all leadership decisions in C3 they chose to throw their support behind a felon.
Love of money is the root of all evil. When you love money so much that your judgement is blurred as to what is right and just, that is evil indeed. All you have to do is follow the dollar signs to figure that out.
And why doesn’t Nick step down? Because he has a felony record. What would he do to earn a living? The only other option, other than con church members out of their charity as pastor of a C3 church, is to deliver pizza. And everyone knows the gullibility and generosity of people at C3 is far more lucrative than the pizza shop.
Stuart Said “they would be “indebted” to Nick for his “loan” to the church if they asked him to step down so they had to keep him in place.”
Your not far off Stuart. North Carolina requires a dissolution statement in a non-profits articles of incorporation. Typically it just states that the assets can’t go to an individual but can go to another non-profit, church etc. Here is the addendum to the C3 Asheville NC state registration that documents Dimitris C3 church “pay back plan”:
Upon the dissolution of the corporation, the corporation shall first pay or make provision for the payment of all liabilities of the corporation. Thereafter, the corporation or if it does not act, the general court of justice of the county in which the principal office of the corporation is located, shall dispose of all assets of the corporation exclusively of the corporation in such manner… as the corporation or such court, as may be applicable, shall determine.
Now mind you that this is typical except that Dimitris is the sole officer of the church and has complete control of the the dissolution of the assets and paying of liabilities. He IS the corporation. And he will count that “investment” of ill gotten gains as a C3 church liability. There is no documented board of directors or officers just him alone.
So when sentencing comes down and he has to have a “sabbatical”. He can dissolve the church on paper all by himself. And C3 will have taken money from a crime and paid it back to a criminal.
The fox guarding the hen house.
I’m sure it wouldn’t surprise you to know that he filed the C3 Church Asheville registration 3 months after his fraudulent deal in Seven Falls that he has since pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud.
https://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Filings.aspx?PItemId=9101065
I’m slow….so after he’s sentenced, he can shut down the church, pay out its debt, and anything left over he gets personally?
Well, the ENTIRE board of C3 Asheville has now stepped down. They had asked C3 “Leadership” that Nick be removed because they found him to be immoral and unsafe to pastor. This is after at least one other board member had stepped down a year ago almost to the date after realizing what they were dealing with. The board realized what everyone around Nick realizes eventually: that he is a narcissistic(clinically speaking look it up), lying conman. C3 “Leadership” chose to stick with Nick. SMH. So sad how many bodies will there be before this man is stopped? I keep asking God to reveal the truth and I know He will. Will C3 now setup another so called “board” or group of “elders”? I wonder if when this board asks to be saved from Nick Dimitris if C3 “leadership” will tell them to hit the road as well. What is the point of a board or elders if it cannot protect and guide the church???Nick is already dragging this last board(full of wonderful well intentioned Godly people by the way) through the mud to all of the 40 people he has left in all of Asheville and WNC for that matter that would think of attending his church. Sad thing is the people left are wonderful people who love God as well, they’re being conned and don’t realize it. They will, as everyone does figure out the truth but there will be lots of pain and hurt that comes with that realization. They will be disillusioned. One thing is for sure C3 doesn’t care. One more thing for sure: God sure does and He says something about Milestones and a sea somewhere in the NEW Testament about that.
So I learn last week that Dimtris goes to old people in his church, that I know personally and used to attend church together years ago with and borrows $30,000 from them and gets $180,000 in tax returns and hides it in a safe and when he has the money, he doesn’t pay back the old people in his church. I’m outraged. Instead of enjoying retirement, they’re out working hard to pay back his debt.
Sweetmans, I challenge you, do you know about this? This is a disgrace. You should remove this deceiver from ministry. Your do nothing approach has taken your church down hundreds of people to 50 and hurt countless people with more to come. Open your eyes.
Or do you not know that he entered a plea of guilty to conspiracy to commit bank fraud? Do you not know that he has lied to you and every one he comes into contact with? Do you not know that he told the feds that he was guilty yet told you and the church that he was innocent? Do you not know that he has ripped off countless people of their life savings? Do you not know that the staff and 2 boards of your church have now quit because they have seen that he is unfit for ministry? Do you not know that 200 people who have left this church are good hearted people and mature christians? Do you know better than the people you sent to Asheville to evaluate Dimitris who wanted him removed?
No you don’t because you simply don’t care. You ignorantly back a conman against the advice or wishes of hundreds of people.
Do you know your own C3 pastors like Whitman Toland, Stephan Hickson, Kirk Bowman and many more see through Nick Dimitris? They all warned you but do you listen?
No you don’t. You stubbornly persist in a farce against all good advice.
Come talk to my friends and where Dimitris used to work and you’ll be told he was fired from this church before you gave him a job. You’ll be told he beat his first wife and can introduce you to the people that got her help. We can introduce you to people that he ripped off. The pastors in my church will tell you what a rotten egg he is. He has a past but you think he’s a nice guy so you stick with him without properly evaluating the monster you empower.
Like anyone who gets involved with Nicholas Dimitris, you have now inherited his bad reputation. We’re all still trying to get the mud off of us from this conman. He is the 1 common thread in everyones bad stories about church around here. Think about that. c3, the rock c3, new covenant…all have their Dimitris horror stories but you must think it’s just a few upset people…no, your eyes are just closed to the truth Sweetmans.
This is your mess, clean it up. Or are you just focussed on other things and don’t care about the carnage in Clyde, Candler and Asheville or the hundreds of people who’s lives have been damaged by your man or the millions he has swindled.
From where we sit, the Sweetmans don’t care at all to even look into it. The only people with the resolve to pursue him for his crimes are the feds or the “United States of America” vs “Nicholas Dimitris”.
Sweetmans must feel lonely supporting him with his small 40 people flock as these folks have abandoned him ~~~
His ex employees at his countless fake companies.
His ex wife.
His ex staff at 3 churches.
His 2 ex boards at C3.
His ex friends.
His ex business associates.
His ex disciples or followers.
His ex oversight.
And the United States of America who want him locked away.
DOES ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE???????????????????????????? Seems like the only people who don’t are Dimitris, the Sweetmans and the few people left in his church.
I am deeply saddened by this whole debacle and cannot understand why a convicted felon was not removed by the church oversight. It goes to show there really isn’t any accountability in this movement. Loyalty to the leader is valued above all else – but where is the loyalty to members who have sown their lives into building what they believed was “God’s house”. Beware members of c3 church – you are dispensable.
Slick Nick has “RE-SIGNED” His plea of Guilty.
Lest anyone think that because his lawyer could be implicated in his fraud (probably why he committed suicide) and therefore be a conflict of interest, the Prosecutor has required Dimitiris to sign a new plea of guilty under the counsel of his court appointed attorney. So in affect he has TWICE pleaded guilty under oath of conspiracy to commit fraud (the commit fraud part is in the bill of information which is referenced below).
So with no threat of his wife being imprisoned and every opportunity to chose a jury trial to fight this if he is being wrongly accused, and a government paid attorney to represent him, he still 18 months later pleas guilty. Why? Because he is guilty and there is no circumstance that he is not.
Dimitris, Nicholas (dft) ncwdce 1:2011-cr-00093
Signed June 6, 2013
Count One:
1. That two or more persons conspired together to commit any offense
against the United States, that being a scheme or artifice to defraud
and in that the scheme or artifice to defraud:
a) that you, along with employees of Pisgah Community Bank, with
intent to injure and defraud Pisgah Community Bank, did willfully
embezzle, abstract, purloin and willfully misapply any of the moneys,
funds, or credits of Pisgah Community Bank, in that you did procure
and obtain as a “straw borrower” a series of “straw borrower” loans
and that you recruited other persons to obtain “straw borrower” loans
From Pisgah Community Bank as “straw borrowers” and as is in the bill
of information in violation of Title 18, USC § 656; and
2. That you willfully became a member of that conspiracy;
3. That one or more of the conspirators, during the existence of the
conspiracy, knowingly committed at least one of the overt acts
described in the bill of information;
4. That such overt act or acts was or were knowingly committed at or
about the time alleged in the bill of information in any effort to effect
or accomplish some object or purpose of the conspiracy; and
5. That all such acts were done knowingly, intentionally, unlawfully and
willfully.
Penalty:
I am also required by law to advise you concerning the maximum and
minimum penalties prescribed by law for such an offense or offense(s). Those
maximum and minimum penalties are as follows:
The maximum possible penalty for this offense is a term of imprisonment of
not more than 5 years’, a fine not to exceed the sum of $250,000, or both, a term
of supervised release o( not more than 3 years’ and a $100 special assessment.
7. Is your mind clear and do you understand that you are here today to enter a
guilty plea that cannot later be withdrawn?
YES:X NO:
8. Have you and your attorney reviewed the bill of information and have you
and your attorney reviewed the plea agreement?
YES: X NO:
9. From my examination of the plea agreement I am advised that you are
pleading guilty to count one as contained in the bill of information.
Read count of the bill of information to which the defendant is pleading guilty.
Are you pleading guilty to that offense(s)?
YES: X.. NO:
The courts can TWICE accept his guilty plea but C3 won’t call for his resignation. If there are still people supporting this fraud they are either ignorant or a cohort.
From someone very close to all of this crap for years i can tell you Nick deserves everything that’s coming to him. I can also confirm that O’gradys thoughts on why the Sweetmans don’t remove Nick is absolutely correct. I was in Oz at the beginning of all this mess (before the C3 Asheville began) and told Mark Kelsey with my own lips what a horrible individual Nick was. I couldn’t believe that after the whole debacle at The Rock (Kirk Bowman’s church that was once a part of C3) they would even consider putting Nick into that position. By the way, that’s a whole other C3 scandal you guys are missing. Sure it happened years back but it deserves a mention considering it spawned all of this drama with Nick and the current C3 Asheville. If you’d like i can open up a whole other can of worms for all you Watchers here that would go a long way to explaining what’s going on here. My only is allegiance is to the truth and the truth sets you free correct? It did in my case.
Since leaving the C3 movement i’ve built a life for myself that has NOTHING to do with church, this includes anyone and everyone that was a part of C3, The Rock, or any other church included in that circle. Outside of the occasional Facebook message with a fellow “survivor” i’ve had no contact with ANY of them. I understand that this isn’t possible for some of you but please, i want to offer everyone here some advice. Make a clean break! I’ve found that sometimes the most piercing thing you can say is “I haven’t thought of you at all.”
After you’ve made a clean and absolute break from the system that these people create it’s incredibly easy to tell the whole truth. They don’t have any way to get to you. In fact, i can also say that what little faith i have left is definitely not of the evangelical variety so they can feel free to hurl the religious insults my way. It really doesn’t make a difference to me either way. I won’t be arguing the spiritual. As i said before, my only allegiance is to the truth. I hope the moderators find this acceptable. In the interests of transparency and with the confidence of the “break” i’ll be providing my real name and email if anyone wishes to contact me.
Email me @ iwishyouallcouldgo@gmail.com
Nick Dimitris is now in a federal prison. He was kicked out of the C3 church organisation. His new church is being let by his loyal followers.
So Nick Dimitris is now out of prison and running his church called United in Asheville. He has been taking legal action against his ex wife trying to get custody of his daughter, who sees through him. He had hired a lawyer to work for him but after a few months of not getting paid, the lawyer dumped him. The poor saps in his church don’t know anything about this and they think he’s awesome and reformed but the fact is that he’s up to his old tricks. He hires people, promises the world and never pays his bills. He is a conman of epic proportions using the legal system against good people who pay their lawyer bills and he never pays. Nicholas Dimitris is still a rat.
Nick Dimitris has just applied for bankruptcy. He’s been putting it off for years now and has been scamming people out of their cash for his own gain and waited long enough to list them all in his bankruptcy including the recent conned. He conned people into paying for a refurb of his new church building, made a few repayments and then stopped. He annulled C3 and started the new church so C3 didn’t have to pay back the fit out. He is a rat.
Nick Dimitris again proves that these C3 / Hillsong do not believe in 1 Tim chapter 3.
Why should they believe in the rest of their Bibles either?
They’re all con-men.
It appears that Phil has a forte for training crooks like Nick Dimitris and Kong Hee. As a result millions of souls are blocked out of the Kingdom of God.
“It appears that Phil has a forte for training crooks like Nick Dimitris and Kong Hee.”
And as it is written, “You will know a tree by its fruit”.