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In the below quote, Pringle narcigetes 2 Samuel 30:6 to justify, explain and warn his congregation on some peculiar things. It is clear in his use of the text he seems to somehow see himself as a ‘king’ over his church and within the offline or online communities. To clarify, the New Testament does NOT teach that a pastor is a king, nor is Phil Pringle Jesus or Moses. If you have been reading the various articles on Phil Pringle here, it should be pretty clear he is clearly a false teacher and a false prophet. It is this type of person Jesus warns us against in Matthew 7.
In this article, we reveal Pringle provides some interesting information in a sermon he gave in 2011.
- Pringle teaches that people in his church may “get wounded” and experience “distress” and “grief”. If it was the world persecuting the church that is understandable. However, Pringle provides the context of his warning. He says Christians in his movement could experience with other Christians (in or outside his movement) traumatic experiences that may test their loyalty to him and his movement. If it’s gossip this is understandable. However, once again – the point of controversy within the framework of his teaching evolved around him. Which leads to our next point.
- Pringle reveals he has been approached by people who have said that they will “go to the newspaper”. He emphasises that he has heard people say this “many times” to him. This tells us that people HAVE expressed their concerns to him and he has rejected them, their reports or corrections. The result being, people have seemingly stated to Pringle they will “go to the newspaper” because issues were not personally resolved with Pringle.
- Pringle alerts us to the fact he is aware what people are saying on Facebook and blogging communities about him and his movement. In June 2011, MyC3ChurchReview (MC3CR) was established around the time C3ChurchWatch started up. It is possible that Pringle may have been referring to the manager of the MC3CR site who also started a twitter account with about three followers. In spite of what is being said online regarding his teaching or practices, he has shown that he would rather mock them or ‘stone them’. This only goes to show Pringle refuses to be corrected or deal with certain false doctrines, his false gospel, scandals within his movement, bad behaviour or false methodologies.
Here is the transcript:
“The leader who had transformed their lives, turned them into men (feared by the entire country side)- now they want to stone him because they are in such grief because the “soul of all the people was grieved. Every man for his sons and his daughters.”
When people are upset they want to blame somebody. And, “Isn’t he the guy who led us down to do this battle down there? Let’s just stone him!”
It happens. It’s not- not uncommon. Moses. “Isn’t he the guy? Let’s stone him!” Jesus. “Let’s stone Him!” You know. These guys had a- they we’re always addicted to getting stoned. [Audience laughs] It’s like, “Let’s just stone him! Let’s just throw stones! Let’s gossip! Let’s go to the- let’s go to the newspaper!”
Argh! Golly! How many times I heard that? “I’m gonna get all the press down there and yuhyuhgruhyuh!” You think it doesn’t happen? There may even be a day when you’re tempted to think that because something happened when you want out to battle and family members or friends or yourself- you get wounded and you’re in such distress, such grief- that’s the moment where there’s deep loyalty tests.
And you find those moments in life! Everybody does! “I’m gonna Facebook them! Obladyuhyuhyuh!!!” “You wont like any of this on my blog baby! Iya-blurdludludludludle!!! Blog away!” Everybody can have a shot of being heard! I’m gonna tell the whole world, “You’ve got three followers on Twitter!” – Phil Pringle, Ps Phil Pringle: Prayer 4 – I Like People, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-prayer-4-i-people, 77:01, C3 Oxford Falls, Sunday Night Service, 25/09/2011.
There is one last thing to consider. Don’t you think it’s odd that Pringle implies that he’ll only listen to you depending on how big your following is on twitter? What other standard must a Christian uphold so that Phil Pringle might listen to their concerns and act on them?
We’ll end with Mark Dever talking addressing the faulty ‘church growth’ standard and application that ministers like Pringle adhere too.
C3 Church Watch 
AN OPEN LETTER TO MR. PHIL PRINGLE
I am one of those people who found it necessary to go to the media with a complaint about you when you failed to answer my concerns yourself. I am dumbfounded that you are not humbled and ashamed that any one in your congregation would feel it neccessary to seek assistance from outside the church as a result of YOUR failure to listen and assist them.
When it was discovered that TWO Pastors in one of your churches failed to attend to a plea for help by a child because he was being systematically raped by his father, (also a member of one of your churches) telling the child instead that “he must have led his father on” and “he should pray for forgiveness”, I requested that you intervene immediately on behalf of this child.
You, with all the care and concern you could muster only agreed to see me and the child AFTER we threatened to go to the media.
You refused to speak to us without your “legal adviser” being present. I didn’t see Christ setting that example in the Bible……………but then our Jesus had strength of character and faced up to hurting people without needing a “legal adviser”.
You didn’t even offer to PRAY for the child or his family, instead, packing us off out of your office as quickly as you could.
You offered NO counseling, NO assistance and NO prayer.
You refused to take action against these two Pastors telling me that you had no power to do anything. You even refused to instruct them to go to court and give evidence on behalf of the child when they refused a police request to do so. You said they “were a law unto themselves”!
However, some time later when you discovered that one of these Pastors had benefited from a lottery win by his wife, you took immediate action to stand him down. It seems, Mr. Pringle that someone winning a lottery is of greater concern to you than the rape of a child!
The other Pastor still oversees one of you church branches Mr. Pringle but then he never committed the dreadful sin of sharing a lottery win did he!
You never contacted the victim or the victim’s family after your meeting with them – not even to inquire about the child’s well-being.
Which of these actions, Mr. Pringle, mirrors what Christ would have done under the circumstances?
If the measure of the contempt in which you hold people is how many people they have on a Twitter account, you must have deep contempt for me Mr. Pringle, because I don’t even have a Twitter account.
You see, I am STILL too busy cleaning up the mess left by you and your Pastors to be bothered with such a thing.
That people can discover your deeds (they are well documented) and learn of your behaviour during these events and yet still sit in your church each week and follow your teachings is an indictment on every single one of them and their obedience to God when we are told to “test all things and hang on to that which is GOOD!”
Perhaps the desire to test all things and follow GOD’S INSTRUCTIONS might move some or any of your followers to require you to stand in church before me and answer for your behaviour in this matter, Mr. Pringle.
Or are the people in your churches just sycophantic sheep, more afraid of displeasing you than they are of pleasing our precious Lord and Saviour?
Of course Mr. Pringle, you tactic is to make fun of, or ridicule, the complainant in these matters. That has always been your way. Your Pastors referring to people as “nutters” whom they wish to discredit in order to deflect proper examination of events, is shameful and abhorrent.
But when will your “followers” begin to ask, “Is this how Christ would behave”?
I wonder if Jesus will say to me on the last Day, “Sorry, you can’t come in – you didn’t have a Twitter account!” I doubt it!
And I wonder, Mr. Pringle if Jesus will ask me why I had to go to the media about a problem in your church? I certainly hope so. I will be only too happy to tell Him!
Hey Kree,
You sound like you’ve gone through a lot and I’m sorry for your hurt and the hurt others have experienced.
As a reformed “follower” of C3, I can testify of just how hard it is to see it when you’re in it and taking a few steps back for a few months and then looking at what you were in is a real eye opener.
There are many people in C3 that are good people, we all know many that are still there and all we can do is pray that their eyes are opened and believe it or not, I now know of several people that have been very influenced by this website. It has caused them to see the truth about certain things and they are now free.
It is my prayer that the leadership at C3 could look at some of the things on this site and humble themselves enough to realize that they are not perfect and that they could reform things and themselves.
Again, I know you’ve walked through a lot and I know just how hard it is to forgive as the depth of my hurt at C3 ran very deep. It takes years to get over and is a continual process of forgiveness and grace. What you and your loved ones have gone through sounds devastating and I pray you find it in you to forgive and heal.
I don’t care what you do as far as warning people or whatever but am praying you find healing for the hurt, again, sorry the machine hurt you and yours…
And, of course, you have lots and lots of followers, don’t you Phil?
What sort of fare do you serve up for those who are queuing up to catch the crumbs from your table? Well, here’s a cracker from the 16th of February:
“Your faithful love reaches to heaven. Ps 36:5”
Wow, what an amazing insight! How deep and profound are your ways, Phil, and your wisdom beyond searching out! But wait, there’s more! Yes, there’s a link to a photo of clouds! Not only that, it’s a photo taken by *you*; yes indeed, it’s a genuine shot by none other than the Great, the One and Only Phil Pringle himself!
No wonder you have so many followers, Phil – no doubt they are waiting with collectively bated breath for more of your brilliant gems (I must admit that, for myself, if I want to read a Bible verse I’m really quite happy to open up my Bible to do so; I’ve been reliably informed that it is in fact in the Bible that such verses can be found). Anyway, perhaps you could regale your besotted fans with an update on how much lint you have found in your navel, since you are so clearly preoccupied with gazing at that particular spot (although maybe you don’t get lint at all, but are in fact blessed with the finest spun gold as a result of having been “tithing” so assiduously for all these years).
Now, as for your dismissive remark regarding those who have “only three followers” on Twitter: it seems that you are in need of a bit of remedial Bible study. To get you started, here are some questions you can tackle as homework:
1. When Gideon took on the Midianites, why was it that he had to send most of the men home before the battle? At whose instruction did he do this?
2. What happened to David when he took a census of his fighting men?
3. When Jesus told his followers ““Most truly I say to you, Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.”, many of them walked away and followed him no longer. Did Jesus chase after them? Why not?
You put yourself forward as a pastor and a prophet and an apostle, Phil, but the sad truth of the matter is that you aren’t qualified to so much as teach Sunday school in a kindergarten. You need to stop twittering and start repenting.
So.
How many followers does MC3CR have today? Have all his friends from C3CW hooked up with him to give him encouragement? Did he get over it yet? Maybe, since you’re not at all certain, Phil Pringle was thinking of someone else entirely.
Does it matter? Really?
Phil Pringle says “And you find those moments in life! Everybody does! “I’m gonna Facebook them! Obladyuhyuhyuh!!!” “You wont like any of this on my blog baby! Iya-blurdludludludludle!!! Blog away!” Everybody can have a shot of being heard! I’m gonna tell the whole world, “You’ve got three followers on Twitter!”
I agree “Ethel/Gordon Bennett/FL etc etc etc”.
Probably wasn’t referring to MC3CW, but you, sir, miss the whole shallow point here.
This is a man who would take time to reference the number of Twitter followers another person has, as if it mattered.
This is a man who would only know because he checked.
This is a man who cares enough about “numbers” to make a snide remark about another’s lack of followers?
Compared to who? Himself of course.
“Does it matter? Really?”
Perhaps it does – measuring success by worldy standards.
No doubt keeping an eye on how many times his “wisdom” is retweeted.
No doubt his sense of validation & importance (in his own eyes) is running along at a steady purr at the moment – especially when he has others to make excuses for his ego.
Wow! Well it certainly matters to you, then.
Although elephants don’t usually forget, I don’t know how many followers I have on twitter since I don’t use it much, and only use Facebook to keep up with distant family and friends. If I have one ‘follower’ that’s great, but it doesn’t amount to anything really.
Twitter isn’t an indication of true friendship, only a social media tool for conveying short pithy messages to people in our circles.
I certainly wouldn’t consider it a big deal if you joked that I only had three followers. I’d find it funny too!
Jesus doesn’t even have a twitter account so, according to twitter he has no followers! LOL!
It helps to be self-effacing enough to recognise our insignificance without Christ.
Maybe Phil’s wisecrack was a little below the belt on the face of it, albeit in a defensive manner, but it was worse, I think, to have taken such offence that it warranted both a self-pitying post and your long, indignant defences!
“Although elephants don’t usually forget […]”
You’re not an elephant, Evil Dumbo. You are a much smaller creature – quite insignificant, in fact, and not even worth bothering with.
“Maybe Phil’s wisecrack was a little below the belt on the face of it […]”
It wasn’t a wisecrack, it was a petulant outburst from someone who has quite clearly failed to overcome their fear of man, and who cannot begin to grasp that God does not care in the slightest about numbers. Not only that, it was the sort of shallow retort that is most unbecoming of anyone who claims to know God, let alone someone who has the temerity to put themselves forward as a minister of the Gospel.
The fact that you remain obdurately blind to what is clearly obvious betrays your wilful ignorance, and is indicative of the fact that your are altogether proof against learning. You are cut from exactly the same cloth as Phil himself, who, for all the years that he has supposedly been ministering and preaching, has not understood a single thing of any importance. You and Phil really do deserve each other as bedfellows, and when I consider your misplaced confidence in the flesh and consequent estrangement from God, I feel sorry for the pair of you.
“Maybe Phil’s wisecrack was a little below the belt on the face of it, albeit in a defensive manner, but it was worse, I think, to have taken such offence that it warranted both a self-pitying post and your long, indignant defences!”
His response was as mature as a school bully blowing a raspberry at his opponents. What is peculiar about your response is it’s similar nature to Pringle’s immaturity. I gather you look up to this man and have inherited his level of childliness judging from your response. You’re blowing a raspberry alongside Pringle as though that is your best defense. That’s all Pringle’s got? A defense force of army raspberry blowers?
lol jesus will be twittering soon enough and god help the false teachers , prophets and c3inians who follow the money .