PHIL PRINGLE’S KING SPIN
Phil Pringle mislead his church on Sunday the 14th of April about the charges against Kong Hee’s financial mismanagement of church funds of up to S$50,000,000.
Various members from C3 Church Watch are continually startled how C3 members are still kept in the dark about Kong Hee. It appears that many C3 members do not know why Kong Hee was under investigation and why he is is now facing serious charges in court for mishandling church funds.
Instead C3 church members have been generally deceived to believe that Kong Hee is persecuted unfairly by an unjust, pagan government for preaching the gospel. And just this Sunday in the name of Jesus, Pringle made sure that he spun the information accordingly to suit his and disgracefully twisted the gospel and God’s Word to control people’s behaviour over the matter.
Here is the ‘great news’ Pringle delivered to his church about the developing case.
PHIL PRINGLE CONTROLLING THE TEACHING & BEHAVIOUR OF HIS CHURCH
The transcript is at the bottom of this article. Before reading what was said, take note of the following things Pringle spoke on:
- Firstly, Pringle acknowledged the fact AGAIN that when he pastors CHC this gives Kong Hee and Sun Ho the opportunity to travel to “share in churches their burden ‘n what they’re facing and keep support happening”. Support ‘happening’?
It is our opinion that Pringle defines ‘support’ to mean ‘financial support’. Pringle disclosed this same information a few years ago where he dishonestly downplayed the allegations against Kong so people could financially support Kong Hee. At that C3 Presence Conference event, Kong “shared” to churches “their burden ‘n what they’re facing” and got the “support” they needed”. So it is of our opinion that to side-step new Singaporean legislation, Phil Pringle has helped Kong Hee by preaching at CHC so Kong can go to other churches to gain financial support over his court hearings and financial well-being. We are led to believe that other church pastors involved in ‘supporting’ Kong Hee may now include “Dr. David Yonggi Cho, John Bevere, Paul Scanlon, Casey Treat, Mark Conner and Jeffrey Rachmat“. (Don’t forget that Yonggi Chi (Pringle’s mentor and member on his ‘Church Growth International’), is also currently under investigation for mishandling his church’s funds.)
- Secondly, Pringle did a stunning job spinning the truth. Pringle did not inform what the Commissioner of Charities had recently done to Kong Hee and his senior members. Instead he heavily edited the account and informed everyone that Sun Ho was “exonerated”. If you really want to see the latest development of the case, COC provides the following information:
STATEMENT FROM COMMISSIONER OF CHARITIES (COC) OFFICE ON PROPOSALTO REMOVE INDIVIDUALS
The COC has issued a Statement clarifying his proposal to remove the suspended individuals related to the City Harvest Church (the Charity) from their office and employment in the Charity. Concurrently, the Attorney-General Chambers (AGC) has issued a statement in response to media query regarding the Attorney-General role in the regulatory action (under the Charities Act) and his role as the Public Prosecutor.
Refer to the COC statement here.
Refer to AGC statement here
(Updated: 12 Apr 2013)
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Commissioner of Charities Acts to Protect Charitable Assets- Invites Representations to Proposal to Remove Individuals
The COC intends to remove 8 suspended individuals related to the City Harvest Church (the Charity) from their respective offices or employment as trustees, governing board members, officers, agents and/or employees of the Charity. The COC has given notice to these individuals and invited them to make representations on his proposal. As provided for under the Charities Act, the COC would also like to invite representations from the public on his proposal with respect to some of these individuals by 13 May 2013. The normal services of the Charity can continue as usual. Refer to press release here.
(Updated: 9 Apr 2013)
Source: Singapore Government, Charity Portal, https://www.charities.gov.sg/charity/index.do, (Accessed 16/04/2013.)
- Thirdly – he takes a playful swipe at his critics which got a pastor laughing hysterically.
- Fourthly – Kong Hee is NOT the Apostle Paul and deserves to be thrown into a ‘spiritual prison’ for disgracing the name of Christ and peddling a gospel that the Apostle Paul would oppose himself. For Pringle to suggest that he is the only Christian to support him in this time is just a load of Pharisaic rot. These men are behaving in very similar fashion that the Apostle Paul warned the church of following. Never did the Apostle Paul sell out the gospel for sex, money, power and down-right deception the way Kong Hee has.
- Fifthly – Not only did Pringle make a light deal out of all this, if you are a Christian outside of the C3 Church movement that is informed on the Kong Hee case- watch out! C3 Church Christians will oppose you for the sake of “Christian character”. Expect Pringle’s army to be against you thanks to Pringle’s deceptive presentation. According to Pringle, he wants Christians to carry Kong Hee’s unjust burden the way that Jesus carried our sins. This is down right diabolical. To use the cross of Christ to defend and support a heretic and cause division among Christians while peddling deception is simply disgraceful.
- Finally, by using warlike language, Pringle had the audacity to link emotional, Australian patriotic pride of ANZAC war heroes to his talk of C3 soldiers warring for souls. He implements his cult-like strategy as so:
“Let’s be part of an army! [Crowd applauses] We’ve got a war for souls going on! It’s the fight to build the church! When you look to the right and the left, who’s there? You know that’s what you gotta do and say, “Look. We’re in this war-“”
This echoes his cult-like strategy from his book ‘You The Leader’ where he wants his church to fight for their leaders whether the attacks are justified or not. Pringle then rolls into linking the C3 army to the ANZACS.
Really Pringle? After using the cross to divide Christianity and to bring shame to Jesus’ name you sink to this cheap tactic as well? Have you no shame?
Pringle’s lack of character in this entire schemozzle has truly been spineless and pitiful, no matter how much he is polishing the outside of his Pharisaical cup.
Here is the transcript:
“I was in Singapore last week ah- folks with our good friends Kong and Sun Hee, although they are very rarely there when I am speaking because it gives them a chance to get out amongst the Asian community or various parts around the world and share in churches their burden ‘n what they’re facing and keep support happening and maintain a healthier relationship and communion with the wider body. And so that’s part of the reason why I am able to go there and uh- and they’ve just had ah- one really interesting breakthrough in this last week where the Commission of Charities (that’s the organisation overseeing charities in Singapore) has exonerated Sun from [audience applauses] all ah- all charges against her so- There was a pretty interesting ah- ah- so ah- You know I’m believing that we will ah- see continual victories like that-
It’s a- It’s a pretty intersting thing when you- You know I mean it’s one thing to say we’ll stand for Jesus. That’s you know an awesome thing ah- but it’s kinda easy to do cos he’s- he’s- you know- gotta a varied reputation. But he’s not actually here on earth. And ah- when His servants come under fire on earth, it’s interesting to watch reactions.
When Paul the Apostle was thrown into a Roman prison for tredizon- tre- treachory and sedition (I was going to say tradition), ah- sedition and treachory against the Roman empire, ah not one Roman Christian visited him to support him or stand with him. The Macedonians had to come up. The Philippians. And that’s why he wrote them such a wonderful letter. There’s not one- there’s a rebuke in every single letter of Paul except the letter to the Philippians, amen!
So I always think that’s a good way to get the grace of God on you- just stand with prayers that are facing trials and tribulations. And ah- you know you’re gonna find out even in your own world with fellow Christians where people talk about them. Ah- I know you’ve never heard a critical word about me anywhere but you know [Pastor laughs] it’s a- you’re laughing? [More laughter] Yeah it’s ah- But right at that moment you know it’s like, “Eeerr! What do I do?”
You know I-I found that- you know we live in a pretty back boneless society sometimes. Depth of character is demonstrated in what you’ll take on behalf of others. Jesus took our whole sins on himself when he didn’t have to do that. So standing up for the name of Jesus and for the church in a society that kinda comes against it, it’s a- it it develops strength on the inside of you. Last thing we wanna do is be people without any character. Amen? [Bad crowd response]
Yeah- very enthusiastic response this morning, amen. [Crowd picks up] Hallelujah!
C’mon! Let’s be part of an army! [Crowd applauses] We’ve got a war for souls going on! It’s the fight to build the church! When you look to the right and the left, who’s there? You know that’s what you gotta do and say, “Look. We’re in this war-” and part of Presence is- you know like- one of the great things about this Conference is that you only have to take two days off work. I know it’s three days but one day’s ANZAC Day. And on ANZAC Day we’re gonna have an ANZAC moment at the beginning of the day and remember ah- fallen soldiers and honour them. But also remind Australia that the war for souls and the war for Australia is not yet over. It’s not yet over and ah- and there’s still a huge cause for us to stand for God on- Anyway- I did a little video while I was in Singapore where we prayed for- for the church. If we could play that, that’d be great! Thanks!”
Source: Phil Pringle, “Awakening — Part 1” – Phil Pringle, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/awakening-%E2%80%93-part-1-phil-pringle, Sunday 14th April 2013. (Accessed 15/04/2013.)
Some answers please?
Phil Pringle says…..
““I was in Singapore last week ah- folks with our good friends Kong and Sun Hee, although they are very rarely there when I am speaking because it gives them a chance to get out amongst the Asian community or various parts around the world and share in churches their burden ‘n what they’re facing and keep support happening and maintain a healthier relationship and communion with the wider body. And so that’s part of the reason why I am able to go there and uh- and they’ve just had ah- one really interesting breakthrough in this last week where the Commission of Charities (that’s the organisation overseeing charities in Singapore) has exonerated Sun from [audience applauses] all ah- all charges against her so- There was a pretty interesting ah- ah- so ah- You know I’m believing that we will ah- see continual victories like that-”
So as advisory pastor, it’s necessary for Phil Pringle to go to CHC on a very regular timetable.
Why?
This is supposed to be a congregation of 30,000 (apparently shrunk to 2,0000 since the “scandal”). So a church this size doesn’t have other pastors in place to preach/teach?
Says more about control than about trusting fellow Singaporeans pastors to minister to their congregation.
How much does it cost to fly in in interim “pastors” (A. R Bernard as well?). How much to pay airfares, hotel accomaodation, love offerings? etc etc.
This is a question also being asked by people attending this church.
Henry Chong: “For being an advisory pastor, how much were they paid? Who paid for their flight here, their lodging, food etc etc? Hospitality right? Twice a month leh… I’m sure we have competent pastors to preach right? How come every other week when number 1 number 2 not around gotta invite a pastor to SG…. Other pastors dun preach one?”
Henry Chong:” Invited pastor also need to pay them one right? Since own pastors drawing >5k why can’t we save money n they preach them self?”
Souce – CHC Confessions
From: http://www.singaporelawwatch.sg/slw/headlinesnews/23343-charities-watchdog-clears-air-on-action.html
Charities watchdog clears air on action Share on twitter Share on email Share on print
Source Straits Times
Date 11 Apr 2013
Author Tan Dawn Wei
THE Commissioner of Charities (COC) yesterday responded to City Harvest supporters who have hit out at the bid to remove eight church members, including founder Kong Hee, from office.
The commissioner’s office explained that there are avenues available to each of the eight to have their cases heard.
Supporters had questioned the COC’s decision on Tuesday to get the eight removed from office, pointing out that his office’s report on supposed mismanagement at the church is yet to be made public.
They also asked how the COC can say his action is independent from the criminal proceedings that have been brought against six of the eight. This is especially since the Attorney-General is the one who gives consent to remove them from office, and is also the one who has charged them.
Kong and five others will face a trial next month for allegedly embezzling more than $50 million from their parish.
In a response to The Straits Times, the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) clarified that the two sets of proceedings served different objectives.
While one is about safeguarding the assets of the charity, the other is about enforcing criminal laws. “The issues are not identical, and the threshold for proof is different,” its spokesman said.
The COC had received complaints in 2010 that the church had allegedly misused funds. The Commercial Affairs Department was also informed. Both agencies conducted their own probes after records were seized from the church’s office.
Last year, the COC suspended nine church members, including Kong and his wife Ho Yeow Sun, for a year. The COC had found, among other things, that at least $23 million had allegedly been used to finance Ms Ho’s music career, without the knowledge of church members.
In December, the COC made an offer to the nine to voluntarily extend their suspension till six months after the criminal trial, which begins on May 15, is over.
The offer was conditional on all nine being on board. But by last month, only five agreed.
This was why the COC on Tuesday acted to remove eight of the church leaders from their positions. Ms Ho was not included as there was not enough evidence showing she was responsible for or privy to what had happened.
Some have questioned why the COC had enough grounds to suspend Ms Ho, but not enough to remove her.
The commissioner’s office explained that under the Charities Act, the conditions for removal are more stringent than that for suspension.
Yesterday, the COC also made it clear that his office had actually extended the deadline twice for the nine to say “yes” to having their suspensions lengthened.
The first time, eight, including Kong and Ms Ho, agreed.
The COC explained it was prepared to hold off further “regulatory action” despite one person not agreeing, and proceed with extending the suspension for the rest.
But last month, when it asked the eight to confirm their consent in writing, only five did.
Kong and Ms Ho were not among them.
“The COC could not extend the suspension of just these five individuals and initiate removal proceeding on the others. This is because the individual cases are linked, and adverse findings may be made which may indirectly affect or implicate those who are not part of the removal process,” said the COC’s statement yesterday.
In his response yesterday, Kong said that after initially agreeing to extending his suspension, the COC revised the terms of the original offer.
“Given that the premise for the COC’s offer had changed, and the fact that Sun and I had already agreed to the voluntary suspension on the COC’s original terms in February 2013, we did not see any reason to consent again to the revised offer,” he said.
“As I stated in my earlier statement, we informed the COC that we had already agreed to the voluntary suspension on the COC’s terms.”
Background Story
Attorney-General acts as ‘safeguard’
The Attorney-General’s Chambers issued this statement yesterday:
The Attorney-General (AG) performs a role in the regulatory action (which is provided for under the Charities Act) which is different from that of the Public Prosecutor in the criminal proceedings (as provided for under the Constitution).
Under the Charities Act, the Commissioner of Charities (COC) conducts the inquiry, invites representations from the parties and members of the public, considers all facts and circumstances, and then decides whether he wishes to make a removal order in respect of any individual.
It is only if the COC decides to make a removal order that the COC seeks the AG’s consent, as provided under the Charities Act. It is a “safeguard” before the removal order is made. If the COC decides not to remove any individual, the role is not triggered.
In the criminal proceedings, the Commercial Affairs Department conducts the investigations to gather the evidence. The AG’s role as Public Prosecutor (under the Constitution) is to decide if the case is a proper one to prosecute, and then to present the prosecution’s case before the Court. The outcome is determined by the Judge.
The two sets of proceedings serve different objectives – the regulatory action is concerned with, inter alia, the protection of assets of the charity, while the criminal proceedings are concerned with enforcement of criminal laws. The issues are not identical, and the threshold for proof is different.
Source: Straits Times © Singapore Press Holdings Ltd. Permission required for reproduction.
sun ho was suspended and her suspension was lifted becos the rules do not allow for suspension for more than 6 months. she was never charged so phil pringle should not say she was exonerated. kong hee and others are to be removed in move by the commission of charities seperate from the criminal trial.
Can someone please provide me reference to Sun being “exonerated”? And is this only from CoC matters or criminal matters?
Apologies, she was not charged criminally.
K
Just a question. It is Biblically clear that such shameless facades and farces are rife in the present Church world. How come God does not seem to step in to stop this? I recall reading in the book of Acts that when Ananias and Saphira lied, they were struck dead. No defense, trial , jury or judge. How is it that the modern church can still persist unashamedly in their crooked ways?
Please close down City Harvest Church.
Come to worship New Creation Church instead.
Support LGBT
ads – are you for real?? Is this what New Creation teaches you – to support LGBT?? Please read the Word to know that LGBT practices are an abomination to God!
It’s really saddening to see so many people demonising c3 and Phil and Chris Pringle. They are real people who don’t deserve this kind of disgusting organized action against them. Haven’t you people got anything better to do? Seriously. Go and make real change in the world by spreading a positive message rather than wasting breath and space on this crap. In the end, only God can judge, not you. So for the sake of all of us, go find a new hobby. Get happy! Get Jesus in your heart and move on!
“[Phil and Chris] are real people […]”.
Judas was also a “real person”. What did *he* deserve?
“[…] only God can judge, not you.”
You assume that because you have no wisdom or discernment, no one else does either – however you are wrong. We can indeed judge, and we are well aware of the fact that Phil Pringle has been weighed in the scales by God, and that he has been found wanting.
As for “spreading crap”, that is what Phil Pringle does, because he wouldn’t know one end of a Bible from the other. Perhaps it’s actually *you* who needs to go and find a new hobby, Steph.
“So I always think that’s a good way to get the grace of God on you- just stand with prayers that are facing trials and tribulations.”
Really Phil? Grace is God’s unmerited favour. Given that this is so, then there is, by definition, *nothing* that we can do to “get it on us”. Grace is not given to us on the basis of what we do, but rather *in spite* of what we do.
Pringle has been “preaching” and “teaching” for what, thirty years? And yet he doesn’t understand one of the most important and fundamental truths in the Bible. Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ, so given that Phil doesn’t understand grace and that he won’t teach the truth, the only possible conclusion is that he *doesn’t know* Jesus Christ.
This sad excuse of a so-called pastor would not pass muster as a primary school scripture teacher. He really should take on a role more in keeping with his clearly limited capabilities – maybe he could get a job as a cleaner, or perhaps delivering advertising pamphlets.
hello, pst joseph prince does not condone lgbt.