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Why Is This A Direct Reflection of Phil Pringle’s Mentoring?
We have Pringle recorded denying that he preaches the prosperity gospel (which we know is a flat-out deceptive claim):
“And the deal – some people accuse that – just what I said then, saying, ‘Oah! That’s prosperity gospel’ or whetever. I’ve never preached a gospel other than about Jesus my whole life. That’s the gospel: Jesus Christ. Beginning and end. You know I got no other message then that one.” – Phil Pringle, Steven Furtick ‘Stay Behind The Guide’,http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/steven-furtick-%E2%80%98stay-behind-guide, C3 Church Oxford Falls, 15/04/2012.
However, we know personally that Kong Hee sees Phil Pringle in an infallible light as a personal master and mentor, pope and Prophet of God.
Kong Hee To Phil Pringle: “You created this mess! You’ve Got To Come And Help Us Fix It”
Not only is Kong Hee a disciple of Phil Pringle, he imitates Phil Pringle in many ways in teachings, conferences, service layouts, financial events and advertising, etc.
“Many people come to City Harvest Church and they look at our church. Look at our pulpit. Our Rise and Build. And they say, “Hey! Why is it that in Australia they kinda copy after you?”
Well actually we came here and copied everything from Christian City Church. So we have our own Rise and Build and I just thought I show you this latest installment where we anounced to our church, SunTec City Convention Center. It’s a twelve thousand seater hall. And ah- it’s amazing. And already, in one month after we signed the lease, we are already starting to earn dividends from all the profits, eh! So lets just watch the video right now.” – Kong hee, C3 Presence Conference, Session 4, Sydney, 2010.
Phil Pringle needs to face the facts. He is a Word of Faith heretic that peddles the same damnable prosperity gospel that his faithful student Kong Hee peddles (Galatians 1). No matter how much Phil Pringle tries to distance himself from being a Word of Faith Heretic, Pringle’s disciple Kong Hee keeps exposing his mentor’s true colours. In fact, Kong Hee happily boasted of being a Word of Faith preacher at Pringle’s Presence Conference 2012.
Kong Hee has done his best to truly copy “everything from [Phil Pringle’s] Christian City Church”. Now keep this in the forefront of your mind: If Kong Hee’s church is critiqued, Phil Pringle’s church is critiqued.
Recently, Dr Paul Choo, (the founder of Goducate), gave a lecture titled “The Prosperity Gospel Message”. This lecture examined the pyramid scheme structure of CHC. Below the video are quotes from his lecture.
“So many people are brainwashed. Many of them.
“I go to support him [Kong Hee]! Don’t get confused! Don’t get discouraged and baffled-” because that’s how they think! Why don’t they leave the church? Why more go? You mean everybody’s brainwashed? Everybody’s like that?
Well let me tell you, many will not leave because this is the best scheme they’ve ever seen in their life.
You know you put money in a bank now, how many percentage do you get? Less then one percent right? Quarter percent I heard. Someone told me. … You put money in this scheme- prosperity gospel scheme, (backed by God you know). Not backed by bank. Not banked by US government. Not banked by Swiss government or Singapore. It’s backed by God you know. You know how powerful God is? If you can’t trust God, who can you trust?
Sometimes you buy scheme. Now you got to [inaudible] money. Just underline the highlighter the nice things to see. Then you say, “In this contract, how do I know if it’s real or not?” Let me tell you, this scheme, according to them, is backed not by God but also by the bible. “I show you. Like Malachi three verse ten. You don’t believe me? I show you!” WOAH! Alright.
So here we say, “How can they leave a scheme like this? It’s sooo attractive!” Quarter percent? This one gives you minimum three thousand percent. Thirty four. … Hundredfold? Ten thousand percent. Why do you want to take money out and put it in the bank? “Are you stupid or what? This is backed by God! Endorsed BY MEN OF GOD!”
You know something? One reason why this whole scheme has continued is because not of one man, but because this one man has been endorsed by may other people. Good men. Pastors who say, “Who are we to judge”. Pastors who keep quiet- Let me to tell you, when you keep quiet, when people ask you on a scheme like that, silence is consent. Do you know that?
“You as a Christian! What do you think of this?” [Inaudible] “Don’t want to think to much about these things.” You know what you’re saying? “It’s not bad.”
Let’s say you’re a financial guide and you know there is a scam that everybody’s using and scamming people. As a banker what must you do? You must tell people, “Hey please! Run from that! Have nothing to do with that”. But you and I as Christians most times, we keep quiet. And there are pastors of big churches that endorse this! It’s not about one man! It’s about a whole system that stinks! It’s about a whole system of men who keep quiet so that bad men can do scams. And I will not be apart of that. We must not be apart of it. We know the truth. We must speak the truth now!
I don’t like to do this. I’d rather preach the gospel. Good news is better than telling about scandals and bad things. Why should I go run down people? You think it’s a nice thing? As a Christian, we don’t like to do those things. I’d rather say, “God loves you! Jesus died for your sins! Jesus paid the price”. These are wonderful, wonderful things to talk about. Why do we talk about these things?
Because somebody has to say something. And I hope we will.”
[Condemns Sun Ho’s music video] [48:48]
“… But there will come a time when God will say, “You’ve taken my name in vain and I will not hold you guiltless. You will pay”. Til that day, our job is to warn people, “This is NOT Christianity. This is NOT the gospel. This is a SCAM. PERIOD! Using the name of God is a financial scam.” Don’t mince your words when you have to explain that. Don’t try to win popularity like all those pastors th-, “Oh! He’s not that bad! Who are we to judge others?” We’re not here to win popularity. We’re here to tell the truth. If you go to church to be popular, you’re in the wrong place. We came here because there’s truth. Truth will set us free. So I hope today that you have the truth and you will speak the truth but speak it in love.” [55:05]
C3 Church Watch 
At last some sound teaching! After hearing my Church leaders saying they tithe in order to live under the ‘open windows of heaven’ I just want to cry.Prosperity teaching has crippled our Church – heart-breaking.
Read Hebrew chapter 7 to chapter 11 tithing was for Tabernacle worship /Levitical priesthood.Today under the Chief priesthood of Christ & priesthood of believers tithing was nullified.Tithing was associated with Levitical priesthood.
chc is not the only church preaching that. In fact all churches are like that.
God loves you! Jesus died for your sins! Jesus paid the price”. These are wonderful, wonderful things to talk about. Why do we talk about these things?
to me, not a wonderful thing. it more like a man die for us… we should be graceful
pot calling the kettle black haha
There are various degree of black.
It is preachers like you who create divisions among christians. You take the bible and interpret it your own way and condemn others when they want to interpret their way. Sure dont tell me you interpret it “christ’s way”. How do you prove you interpret it the correct way?
You charge CHC for not obeying the verses YOU selected. But i can select many more verses in the bible that your denomination does not practice!
“It is preachers like you who create divisions among Christians. You take the bible and interpret it your own way and condemn others when they want to interpret their way.”
Really? We interpret it our own way?
How then would you interpret this passage?
“Jesus wept.” John 11:35
We hold to the belief that this passage explains that Jesus (who is faultless, i.e without sin), wept. Do you agree?
You claim to interpret the bible verses the “correct” way. Sure, please prove your claim?
Who established the “correct way” to interpret the bible?
Christian A claims that god told him
Through scriptures and prayer that healings and tongues are Jesus’ miracles. Christian B claims that god told him through scriptures and prayer that healings and tongues are not Jesus’ miracles. Both claim to the truth and support their claims with bible verses.
Christina also have differing beliefs for many other faith beliefs and doctrines.
Who told you your interpretation is the most “godly”?? Who? What right do you have to impose your interpretation on others?
The reason why there are thousands of Christian sects is because every Chrstian reads the bible differently and comes
To different interpretation. And just because someone’s interpretation is DIFFERENT from yours doesn’t make it wrong.
Please learn to be more open minded and loving towards your own Christian friends.
Shame on you for needing a non Christian like me to teach you to respect and love your own Chrstian brothers and sisters in CHC
Christianity is the most divided religion in the world, with thousands of sects, denominations, beliefs and practices because of people like you! You tell others that your version of jesus is the most accurate and all other sects’ /denominations’ are wrong!
Hi Tama, I have not come across Dr Paul Goh saying that only his denomination is correct and others are wrong. I have read many prosperity church pastors corruptly attain personal gains and live in luxury. I therefore support Dr Goh and condemn those who wants to argue with him..(I am a Roman Catholic)
You guys who accuse CHC and other churches for not practicing Christianity: I can also pick out many verses in the bible that you and your church and denomination don’t practice.
So quit pointing fingers at others and stare yourself in the mirror !
Tama,
You lack understanding because you have been blinded by the love of money, and you have not given enough.
Kong Kee lives in a penthouse worth $9.3 million, but he deserves far better than that: he should, in fact, own the entire building. The reason that he does not own the building is because of greedy, self-serving people just like you, who hang onto their wealth rather than sowing into Kong’s kingdom as they should.
You need to repent of your avarice, sell everything you own, and give every last cent to Kong, so that he can enjoy the life that he truly deserves, and so that Sun Ho can realise her dream of becoming a star. When you have divested yourself of all that you own, your eyes will be opened, and you will understand that God has put you here to be a servant to Kong and his wife, and to glorify them – your destiny is as their footstool, so stop persisting in your disobedience, and allow them to place their feet on your back, in accordance with your true station in life.
“I can also pick out many verses in the bible that you and your church and denomination don’t practice.”
Go for it. We encourage critics to keep us accountable to God’s Word.I think you will find that we remain within the biblical guidelines.
Please do not result in throwing at us twisted, misquoted or out of context passages like ‘Judge not lest ye be judged’, ‘Love covers a multitude of sins’. Make sure you do not use the infamously twisted passages like ‘if your brother sins against you’, ‘he who hasn’t sinned cast the first stone’, ‘touch not God’s anointed’.
These verses have been used by false teachers to manipulate God’s church. So if you want to correct us, please look at the verses in context first.
Please see below instructions you Ignore and see as “out of context”, “metaphorical”, or irrelevant. Seems like many verses are out of context for you:
If you don’t sell everything you own, you CANNOT be his disciple
Luke 14:33
So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions.
Jesus says divorced women should not remarry
Mark10:11
Christians should not get married
Corinthians 7:1
Women cannot teach men
2 Timothy 11-12
Women may not speak in church
1 Cor 14:33-36
Sell all possessions to follow Christ
Mark 10:21, Acts 2:45
Christians cannot wear hats when praying
1 Corinthians 11:1-34, 1 Corinthians 11:4 ESV / 22 helpful votes
Even a look at women lustfully is adultery (I am sure you don’t practice this all the time)
Matthew 5:28
Seek prayers (not doctors) when you are sick
James 5:14
The wealthy will be condemned by God (I am sure many leaders in small churches are pretty wealthy too)
James 5:1-5
Cut your hand and gouge your eyes every time you sin (Jesus didn’t say it was supposed to be metaphorical)
Matthew 5:30
Don’t Save Your Money:
Matthew 6:19
Last of ALL:
James 1:22 NIV –
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.
James 1:22 sums it all for you christians. DO NOT just read the bible but DO what it says.
Yet there are many old and new testament laws and instructions that you do not obey and follow! You read and say conveniently that the above verses are not relevant or out of context!
Fine if you want to “interpret” them as you want and not obey them, BUT don’t stop others from interpreting it their own way please!
It’s very funny how you will argue that all the above verses are to be ignored or irrelevant. It seems like much of the bible you also don’t obey!
Luke 14:33(KJV) says “forsake”, not :”sell”. You need English lessons.
Tama, cults love using isolated verses out-of context as well.
use the 5 rules of journalism when looking at bible verses/passages:
Who is it about?
What happened?
When did it take place?
Where did it take place?
Why did it happen?
e.g.Who was Jesus talking to – individuals with certain sins e.g. rich young ruler (Matthew 19:16-30) , legalistic church leaders (Matthew chapter 23),preaching to large groups of people (Matthew chapter 5-7), apostles only (Matthew chapter 24)?
when was the passage written? e.g. Old Testament period (for Jews) or New
Testament (Christians)
is the passage literal, metaphorical, general advice, direct commandment (Jew only /Christian only) , historical account, praise song or prophecy?
God has given you a brain and expects you to use it.
Before I start, I would like to say that I am personally still finding God or otherwise, I am still studying various religions and learning.
If God did exist, then he would have created and put in place the rules of the universe, the rules of conservation and other physical laws.
The phrase that interested me the most was at about 18 minutes, where Pastor Dr Paul Choo, spoke of they who preach “thirtyfold, sixtyfold”, “3000%”. Do the followers of such churches really think money would be multiplied magically by God; the same God who imposed physical limitations in the world? Value cannot be created without effort and effort cannot be fueled without value.
“Women cannot teach men.”
Indeed they cannot, Tama. You are a classic case of why such a thing is proscribed.
“[…] don’t stop others from interpreting [the Bible] their own way please.”
The correct way to interpret the Bible is according to the Bible [that is, within context] and by the leading of the Holy Spirit. Since it is clear that you are neither familiar with the Bible nor acquainted with the Holy Spirit, it is quite understandable that you should wish to interpret “your own way”, since you actually have no other recourse. Your rebellious attitude and lack of wisdom brings to mind the words of Isaiah “So, go, walk in the light of your fires, and trust ·your own light to guide you”. You are as blind as your esteemed guide Kong Hee, and you will both end up in a ditch.
“It’s very funny how you will argue that all the above verses are to be ignored or irrelevant.”
Actually, Tama, it is people like you who are irrelevant, and who are ignored as a result.
Lets not play with words here. Tell me
Tell me if you’re Christian, how many verses I listed do you actually obey and practice? All out of context? Are you sure!?
Tama,
It seems that you are a little slow on the uptake.
Let me put it this way: if you need to know something, you should ask your husband (unless, of course, he is also a dimwitted disciple of the masterful money-grubber).
Tama,
If you are willing to ask Jesus for help,(even in your own time)than i can guarantee that he is able to help you in the face of any adversity.
Ask him and he will bestow upon you eternal life.
Luke 23:39-43
39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!”
40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”
42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
I feel that before any Christian condemn CHC for not obeying or practicing the bible, they should look at their own denomination and church and whether they themselves practice the whole bible too!
Stop selecting certain verses to condemn CHC!
“Stop selecting certain verses to condemn CHC!”
LOL: CHC condemn *themselves* by selectively mis-applying Scripture, Ellen.
Kong Hee is alleged to have misappropriated SG$23,000,000. Can you hear someone laughing, Ellen? That’s Roland Poon, who saw through Kong and CHC a long time ago. Are you going to apologise to Roland on behalf of your “church”, Ellen? Do you have enough integrity to admit that Mr Poon should be reimbursed the money that he was forced to spend apologising for his accusations, which now appear to have been very well-founded?
Kong has been living in a $9,200,000 penthouse in Sentosa Cove, and Sun Ho in a Hollywood mansion, the rent for which is $20,000 per month. Where do you live, Ellen? How much is your house worth? I bet you could have afforded something much nicer – except for the fact that you have given so much of your money away to that ever-so-honest “pastor” of yours. Tell us: how much of your money does Kong have, exactly?
The followers of chc show an amazing lack of bible knowledge. No wonder they r brain washed. Their shallowness is amazing.
“Cut your hand and gouge your eyes every time you sin (Jesus didn’t say it was supposed to be metaphorical)
Matthew 5:30”
Were Jesus’ disciples sinless? Or did they cut their hands off and gouge at their eyes?
“Fine if you want to “interpret” them as you want and not obey them, BUT don’t stop others from interpreting it their own way please!”
A major issue today is modern Christianity. Today’s Christianity is not grounded on historical Protestant Christianity history. Modern Christianity is bending the knee to modern philosophies which is why ‘Judge not lest ye be judged’ is a popular misconstrued bible verse. If today’s Christians understood their bible, history, creeds, catechisms, confessions and the biblical gospel, there would be more unity among believers. If Christians were properly trained by biblically trained Pastors then Christians would STOP interpreting most scriptures their own way.
“Judge not….” read in context was Jesus’s warning given to hypocrites..the Pharisees.It’s not to be applied against people who spoke against wrong doctrine.
Jesus warned against false teachers and false prophets in the last days.
We better judge using the bible as the standard.
“Cut your hand and gouge your eyes every time you sin (Jesus didn’t say it was supposed to be metaphorical)
Matthew 5:30″
29If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
(Matthew 5)
It’s hearing false teaching and believing it, that causes people to sin,,just ask Eve.
So let’s all gouge out and cut off the false teaching in our lives,so be it.
The world is laughing at us and say christians are so gullible and easily deceived by these prosperity gospel teachers. Why not we prove them wrong .The prosperity gospel might actually be the answer to eradicate economic poverty. There is no need for any govt. economic programs for that. We can start with the Christians in Phillipines. Tell the poor Christians in that country who are penniless ,very much like the poor widow, to tithe or give their little hard earned money in accordance with the property gospel teachings and help them reap 100 or 1000 fold return. Have faith the prosperity gospel is true,it will succeed and help eradicate poverty and the world will no longer laugh at us. In fact we will then need many more CHC all over the world to contain new comers .
I was in bondage for 15 years in Charismatic church.Brainwashed with resulting fear and guilt regarding concerning tithing.
Wondered why there is no obligation to follow the OT law except tithing?
The bible teaches about not storing treasures on earth but these false teachers teach the exact opposite.They appeal to the greedy listeners who would then part with their money because they covet more.
Folks read Hebrews chapter 7 to chapter 11.You will see that tithing is connected to Levitical priesthood & Tabernacle worship of OT.
FYI even Jews don’t tithe today because they do not have the temple now.
All Christians should take time to read the bible understanding every verses and in context of the entire chapter & book.Most of these false teachers took verses in isolation and twisted them .
Yes, and tithing under the mandatory Levitical laws is not one tithe but 2 tithes annually and an additional 3rd tithe in the 3rd year making it an average of about 23 % annually. When Malachi talks about robbing God, it is reffering to those who give less than that. But in NT giving has no fixed percentages as under grace. Stand up against the prosperity preachers and all false teachers. Contend for biblical truths.
Dear All Humans Being,
All must sell ALL your properties and give ALL to the “god”, Dato Kong Hee Fatt Choy,
then “god” Kong Hee Fatt Choy WILL bless all of you 1,000 folds!!!
My 2 cents…
Not to antagonize the “other camp”, but Dr Paul Choo sounded more like a prophet than Mr Phil (The enlightened ones will know the ministry of the prophets were a lot more than “prophesying about the future” but of godliness, holiness and pointing ppl back to GOD)
and 2 Timothy 4:3-4 …. showed that things have not changed one bit just a manifestation into another form even after 2,000 years.
BTW, if the 30/60/100 returns are true and “the church in question” being the one who preaches and practises “this truth”, shouldn’t their reserves be multiplying at a rate of, at the very least 3000% annually ? Why the need for more A&B? Why use other properties as collateral for the borrowings when a mere return of 200-300% will suffice? Surely it is achievable even at a 10% faith level (sarcasm intended)
Are they loving GOD “with all their minds” (i.e. Matt 22:37)….
Cheers!
Thank you for this liberating truth, another favorite the WOF Pastor’s Lord over the church is “the widow’s mite” and “Abraham & Jacob tithed before the Law”……. well………..circumcision was practiced before the Law, why don’t they endorse that teaching? RE: widow’s mite Christ was warning the people to beware of the Scribes and Pharisees who devour widow’s houses and the poor widow gave her all because of the greed of the Pharisees, not because it was voluntary, but because she was coersed from the Scribes & Pharisees.
Folks, I’m posting this link on this thread as it gives an excellent overview of what Old Testament tithing was all about – and it certainly wasn’t about money!
http://www.tithingtruth.com
“Good riddence to false profits and all those who make them…”
Never put your trust in false teachers. They are wolves behaving like angels but clothed inwardly as ravaging beasts. Who cares about the poor, the weak and neglected? Not Kong Hee, he dwells in rich mansion on an island call Sentosa Cove, spends 50 millions so far discovered on his wife, misleads many on his false christianity fashioned from Word Faith and Prosperity gospel by choosing which verses to pick out of context and lies about his companies he runs.
Now, lets see who else are part of his cronies ….
Sentosa Cove website – your tithe money in action… I’m sure that Kong will invite you all over for a Bar-B-Que some time soon, as a reward for your faithful giving…
Thor
It doesn’t appear as though Kong Hee gave to CHC “until the tears ran down his face”, does it? On the contrary, Kong got *his* returns by tithing to himself – I suppose only those who are among “God’s Anointed” can do that.
Never mind; Phil Pringle has said that Kong and Sun are “good people” – no doubt Phil has spent some quality time with Kong at Sentosa Cove, while all the faithful worker bees of CHC were busy slaving away at their jobs (after all, *somebody* has to pay for the lifestyle to which Kong and Phil have become accustomed).
Sorry Amuzed, but it doesn’t look like the site will link from the picture, so here’s the full on website link – check out the gallery and look at the high rises too – maybe that’s where the Kong gang hides out in between meetings and court room sessions???
http://www.sentosacove.com/cos/o.x?c=/wbn/pagetree&func=view&rid=1098306