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The Apostle Paul said to YOUNG Timothy,
“Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Looks like Pringle would disagree.
CAN SOMEONE SAY THE WORD ‘HYPOCRITE’?
Phil Pringle said recently at his Global Presence Conference 2013,
“In Singapore you will see lots of negative stuff. You will read lots of blogs by Christians as well that are terrible, negative, attacking, all kinds of things and we live in that kind of age.
But I think people are getting a little numb to it now. I saw on some comments on Facebook today about this conference. I’m thinking, “Oh! PLEASE! You know! Get over it in Jesus name! Amen! Get a life! Do something! Win some people to Jesus! You know like- our worst critics and enemies are within our own deal, for goodness sake. Can’t we get it together and discover the things that unite us are far more the things that divide us in Jesus name. Amen!
We’re here to build the church, not tear it down. I’m not gonna get into cat fights with anybody. Amen! I’ll just ignore it, move on.” [Article]
Well the one that seemingly hates to start the cat-fights couldn’t let the fight go. Offended, upset and miserable, Phil Pringle recently stated,
“But I don’t find that all the time. I find some believers who are still very small minded. Very miserable. Very upset. Very offended. very tight about all sorts of things. And often times- this is the tragedy of that, they’re only like twenty five years old!
I’m going, “You’re too young to be this screwed up! You’re too young to be this hard-headed about doctrine- and about- and to get all angry and bitter and tough about- PLEASE! What are you doing?!? Don’t talk about the stuff. BE the stuff. Don’t fight about words like grace. BE GRACIOUS! Amen!”
Source: Phil Pringle, Phil Pringle ‘Grand Designs | Spare Not’, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/phil-pringle-grand-designs-spare-not-0, C3 Church Oxford Falls, 09/06/2013. (Accessed 11/06/2013.)
We don’t know what’s more pathetic. A sixty year old pastor blowing raspberry’s at doctrinally hard-headed twenty five-year old’s (someone get Pringle a pacifier); or Pringle using his own doctrinally hard head to tear down Christians. Come on Pringle! We’re here to build the church, not tear it down. If you don’t like Christian doctrine Pringle, just ignore Christianity and move on. Christianity would probably have revival if you left.
WHERE’S THE LOVE PRINGLE?
To point out how askew Pringle’s doctrine is, he clearly doesn’t know what a pastor is, what the church is and who actually builds the church. A pastor is called to look after the flock. The church isn’t called to expand or progress. The church is to behave like a pillar and buttress of the truth (1 Timothy 3). It is up to God to grow it.
Furthermore, this audio shows just how much Phil Pringle disregards his own congregation. Phil Pringle would rather have a big church where no one knows him and no one knows each other. What’s sad is Phil Pringle thinks he is actually saving people if he wants a big church. When you watch to the end of the above sermon ask these questions:
Did Phil Pringle preach a gospel message that could lead someone out of their sins and into God’s grace through Jesus’ atoning work on the cross?
Did they know anything about the gospel?
It is not loving at all to give people the impression they are Christian’s if they don’t know the gospel which is the power that saves from hell.
Now that’s “screwed up”!
WHERE’S THE TRUTH PRINGLE?
“Don’t talk about the stuff. BE the stuff. Don’t fight about words like grace. BE GRACIOUS! Amen!”
What’s odd about Pringle’s advice is that it doesn’t make any sense. What is he talking about? Is this how a sixty year old anti-doctrinal pastor responds to young Christians?
And these are twenty five-year old’s! Imagine if Pringle came across someone half their age.
“And when [Jesus] was twelve years old, they went up according to custom. And when the feast was ended, as they were returning, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. His parents did not know it, but supposing him to be in the group they went a day’s journey, but then they began to search for him among their relatives and acquaintances, and when they did not find him, they returned to Jerusalem, searching for him. After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers.” Luke 2:42-47
Sounds like Jesus was VERY hard-headed. Maybe Phil Pringle should rebuke Jesus in the name of Jesus while he’s at it. Maybe just like his members, Jesus should conform to the image that Pringle wants them all to be.
C3 Church Watch 
” You’re too young to be this hard-headed about doctrine”
….Ps 119:99 – “I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.”
…maybe the young person is thinking for themselves and challenging what they are taught.
“You’re too young […]”
How ironic it is that when Phil Pringle was young, he himself was an air-headed flibbertigibbet. Of course, now that he’s old, he has “matured” into a navel-gazing narcissist extraordinaire, a sell-out sophist of of the highest order.
Phil recently pointed out in one of his sermons that God tests us even when our years are advanced – you’d have to wonder how it is that the rapidly ageing Phil is tested, wouldn’t you? Is it those taxing flights around the world to give meaningless talks in order to receive generous “love offerings”? Is the fact that he and his wife are stuck with driving BMWs, rather than being blessed with Ferraris? (Oh, the shame!) Is it because so many of his prosperity pimp peers possess private jets, and Phil is missing out (haven’t you been “tithing”, Phil?) Is it that Brian Houston is far and away more successful at attracting adherents, and is better known outside the “church” by several orders of magnitude?
The sad truth is that Phil peaked a long, long time ago, and, try as he might, he just can’t recapture the cachet that he once had in the eyes of the young and impressionable, or cut a convincing figure in the estimation of the naive and undiscerning. In not too many years from now, Phil will be gone, and the only legacy he will leave behind will be a dwindling band of die-hard disciples who will be utterly bereft without him – rudderless empty-heads who have been so foolish as to put their trust in a mere mortal, and a fundamentally flawed one, at that.
No Phil, you are just not contemporary any more. The problem is not that your opponents are too young, but that you yourself are too old.
Wow, a blog to express your own hatred and envy feelings about 1 person.
“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stoneat”
I guess we now should make a blog about you and look all the wrong things you do in life. I wonder if the internet is big enough to count all the sins.
Maybe you should accept the fact that Phil is a human being, accepted by Jesus despite his wrong doings. Than shouldn’t you accept him as well? Instead of throw rocks at him you should help in by the love of Jesus. I hope you’ll get to your senses one day and realize that you’re wasting your time, but most of all that you’re wasting God’s time. God has better things for you to do than letting your ego making a fool of himself.
Wish you the best,
Would you also condemn Jesus for rebuking the Pharisees in Matthew chapter 23?
This is not a blog about expressing hate or envy on persons but on expressing hate against false WOF teachings and as JohnPiper loudly and bluntly proclaimed : I HATE the prosperity gospel. We don’t desire to tear down persons but their false WOF wealth and health gospel. What these people do behind close doors is not our concern as God knows all our hearts, you and mine. Our expression here is against the false doctrine they preached. This blog’s desire is to rescue the brethen who are being deceived from these false prophets of money. There are too many false teachers deceiving too many. I was rescued by biblical truths through blogs such as this that dare speak out. If you feel offended, please don’t read. There are many others who welcome such blogs to discover biblical truths and be set free.
“Sound, biblical doctrine is a necessary aspect of true wisdom and authentic faith. The attitude that scorns doctrine while elevating feelings or blind trust cannot legitimately be called faith at all, even if it masquerades as Christianity. It is actually an irrational form of unbelief.” John Macarthur
The Bible teaches that doctrine – sound /correct doctrine – matters. Does Phil Pringle teach sound doctrine? Does Phil Pringle ever faithfully go through the text of scripture, week by week, teaching those he claims to love, sound doctrine?
No – it’s been demonstrated clearly (we don’t need C3 Churchwatch to demonstrate that), out of his own mouth, he doesn’t. There are 100’s, perhaps 1000’s of audio/video clips to prove that. He simply cannot rightly divide scripture.
He is NOT a faithful overseer – he is literally sowing disdain and disinterest in biblical doctrine rather than establishing the congregation in a mature knowledge of the faith.
As we read in Titus about the work of an overseer in the Church, Paul tells him that he’s to hold fast “to the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, so that he will be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict.” (Titus 1:9). And, he urged, “in all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds, with purity in doctrine” (Titus 2:7).
“Is it enough to “believe in Jesus” in some amorphous sense that divorces “faith” from any particular doctrine about Him, or is doctrine–and the content of our faith–really important after all?
Scripture plainly teaches that we must be sound in the faith–which is to say that doctrine does matter (1 Tim. 4:6; 2 Tim. 4:2-3; Tit. 1:9; 2:1). It matters a lot.
“If anyone advocates a different doctrine, and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing” (1 Tim. 6:3-4, emphasis added).
Sound, biblical doctrine is a necessary aspect of true wisdom and authentic faith. The attitude that scorns doctrine while elevating feelings or blind trust cannot legitimately be called faith at all, even if it masquerades as Christianity. It is actually an irrational form of unbelief.
God holds us accountable for what we believe as well as how we think about the truth He has revealed. All Scripture testifies to the fact that God wants us to know and understand the truth. He wants us to be wise. His will is that we use our minds. We are supposed to think, meditate, and above all, to be discerning.
The content of our faith is crucial. Sincerity is not sufficient.
Consider, for example, these well-known verses. Note the repeated use of words like truth, knowledge, discernment, wisdom, and understanding:
•”Thou dost desire truth in the innermost being, and in the hidden part Thou wilt make me know wisdom” (Psa. 51:6).
•”The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; a good understanding have all those who do His commandments” (Psa. 111:10).
•”Teach me good discernment and knowledge, For I believe in Thy commandments” (Psa. 119:66).
•Make your ear attentive to wisdom, incline your heart to understanding; for if you cry for discernment, lift your voice for understanding; if you seek her as silver, and search for her as for hidden treasures; then you will discern the fear of the Lord, and discover the knowledge of God. For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding” (Prov. 2:2-6).
•”The beginning of wisdom is: acquire wisdom; and with all your acquiring, get understanding” (Prov. 4:7).
•”We have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding” (Col. 1:9).
•”In [Christ] are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge” (Col. 2:3).
•”All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness” (2 Tim. 3:16).
God’s Word makes it abundantly clear that He wants us to use our minds. And one of the most vital duties facing every Christian–especially in an era (such as ours) when the church is overrun with contradictory ideas and spiritual confusion–is the duty of discernment.” John Macarthur