Dean Sweetman is a Pastor of a C3 Church in America and is also the “Executive Regional C3 Americas Overseer”. He recently has been in correspondence with the C3 Church Watch community. If possible, we wish to keep all conversations with Dean on this thread to save derailing conversations on other articles.
Below is an observation of how we have seen Dean Sweetman behave on C3 Church Watch. It is also a response to some comments he made here:
We at C3ChurchWatch have in the past proved with biblical evidence how Phil Pringle is a false teacher. It wasn’t a case of us giving our opinion. In fact, we have evidence to make the claim that Phil Pringle has in the past misused scriptures to manipulate people for selfish gain.
This is not the heart of a pastor. This is the heart of a counterfeit. A spiritual fraud. A wolf.
We have gone to task to see who is telling the truth: God or Phil Pringle. One of them is clearly exposing the other as a deceiver. So is God a deceiver or is Phil Pringle a deceiver? We listen to God and we listen to Phil Pringle. However, we tend to put our trust and authority in what God says since he… well… cannot lie.
Often this results in Phil Pringle making God out to be a liar. Since man is sinful, we think it’s best we put our faith and authority in God. So we like quoting what He has revealed. This is our authority. So what authority do you speak from Dean?
TO THE DEAN
So far you speak from your own authority:
“You (sic) opinion as to whether Phil Pringle and Kong He are false teachers is based on your interpretation of scripture I guess.”
“I disagree with your position you disagree with mine.”
“That’s ok but to label them a false teachers does not stand up to credibility in light of the statements of faith and over 30 years of teaching…”
“And our position on that is the now mainstream view and accepted across most denominational structures.”
By saying, “Just because you say it over and over does not make it so” is nothing more than an ad hominem attack. We don’t have to say that Phil Pringle or Kong Hee are false teachers. God Himself does in His Word. Stop standing on yourself, your experiences and your “movement”. Pringle is not your final authority. God is. For once prove God is your authority.
Furthermore, stop casting uncertainty on the scriptures and the facts.
“Great, you’ve got your scriptures I’ve got my scriptures. Isn’t fun.”
“I don’t have all the facts regarding the current CHC investigation but again neither do you.”
“Sorry Fancey, I didn’t say I had all the fact.”
You’d expect this behaviour and intellectual dishonesty coming from famous politicians, atheists, agnostics and secularists. This is worldly, weak and Rick Warren-like beaviour Dean. You should know better.
We say all this in response to your comment here:
“I look forward to more debate with a real person who has the courage to enter such debate with their real name. Its easy, you sign in with Facebook.”
You can’t even respond to your critics with the scriptures. In fact you don’t even-copy paste scriptures. Instead you copy-paste links from “critics” who actively preach the gospel (and who don’t like C3 Church) and say “this would do it”.
We are calling your bluff. You don’t “look forward to more debate with a real person who has the courage to enter such debate with their real name”. We’re not idiots. People who have tried to do this in the past in the C3 Church movement have been mocked, marginalised, gossiped and ridiculed. In fact we know someone who was blacklisted because they attempted to debate a Connect Group leader.
Be a real Christian Dean and start addressing the substance of our claims. So far you are dancing around the scriptures and jabbing at us with plastic forks.
If you don’t want to take us on, take on Chris Rosebrough from Fighting For The Faith. His name is out there. He is aware of the mess C3 is involved in Singapore and America. He has made some very serious claims against Phil Pringle, Mark Kelsey, the C3 Movement and the Global C3 Presence Conference. I am sure he would be more than happy to have you on his program so he can debate you.
Even Matt Slick from Carm.org is aware of C3′s involvement with the CHC scandal. His name is out there. Since you took your gospel presentation from the Carm.org website, why don’t you explain to Matt Slick on his radio program (at http://www.carm.org) how orthodox Phil Pringle’s best friends have been?
We’ve aswered your questions as best we can. So please answer our questions. They are pasted below with some additional questions added on.
1. You said, “That’s ok but to label them a false teachers does not stand up to credibility in light of the statements of faith and over 30 years of teaching about Salvation, Baptism, Sin, Grace, Justification, Sanctification, the Bible as the infallible word of God, the Trinity, I could go on.”
Please. Go on. Is it possible to be cursed by God if a Christian has received “Salvation, Baptism, Sin, Grace, Justification, Sanctification”?
2. “With the exception of Charismatic theology…”
Would a Charismatic theologian like yourself believe that it possible to be cursed by God if a Christian has received “Salvation, Baptism, Sin, Grace, Justification, Sanctification”?
3. “And our position on that is the now mainstream view and accepted across most denominational structures.”
Would you like to add anything else to this statement?
4. “Just because you say it over and over does not make it so.”
Why not? Would you like to restate that?
5. So we can understand you and Pringle more clearly, can you please define what you and Pringle mean when you use the following words? We are quite prepared to go through our articles and clean up any misconceptions if you can provide the definitions of these words for Pringle and his movement.
- Kingdom of God
- Word of God
- Speaking in tongues
- False Prophet
- False Teacher
6. You stated that you “have taught in C3 congregations to to beware of false teachers”. Who are some false teachers you have named?
7. You stated you, “have also taught on to submission to authority”. What do you mean by “authority”? What types of authority?
8. Why don’t you look into the C3 Asheville scandal?