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Mark Kelsey once preached about Jesus reading the scroll of Isaiah in the synagogue (Luke 4). At some point in the sermon Kelsey had the following brainwave about Jesus being raised in the synagogue/church.
Kelsey raises a good point. Can you imagine a pastor raising up the Son of God in their synagogue? Wouldn’t Jesus be critical of the pastor preaching poorly? Wasn’t Jesus adamant against the blind teachers that did not see that the scriptures pointed to him?
In Luke 4, Jesus WAS critical of the congregation. He dared to criticize the people’s unbelief and rejection of his Messiahship. As a result of this, the people tried to kill Jesus by throwing him off a cliff.
According to Pringle, Jesus fails to live up to Pringle’s definition and standard of faith. If someone is critical of Pringle and his PMA posse of pastors, they are not tolerated. Consider how intolerant Pringle becomes when people criticise his pastors:
“DON’T you DARE criticize and pull down your pastor or anybody else around here! If you want to do that, just go now! We’re having too much fun to have the critics and the miserable people around! Just leave now!” – Phil Pringle, “God Creates With Words” // Dr. Phil Pringle // 02.12.12, Vimeo, http://vimeo.com/37288145, Uploaded by C3 Church San Diego, 22/02/2012.
To read more instances where C3 does not tolerate people like Jesus who have a lower Positive Mental Attitude than Pringle, read our article here:
I attempted to play the video, but all I got was a black screen and the message “This video is private”.
What’s the deal here?
And why would Mark Kelsey be mentioning Jesus in any case? Mark’s faith is not in Jesus; we know this because he has said so himself – addressing C3OF attendees from behind the lectern, he has stated:
“My faith in God is based upon the tithe which is the cornerstone […]”
Which is an astonishing statement, being as it is a public declaration by Mark Kelsey of his idolatry. Those of us who know God and are familiar with the Scriptures understand that we should put our faith in Christ alone, since He was the atoning sacrifice that can save us from our sins – as Jesus himself said:
“Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone'”
Someone should show that verse to Mark Kelsey, and point out to him that according to God, *Jesus* is the cornerstone – not money.
Maybe Mark Kelsey thinks that his idol mammon is the one true god, and that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is just a pretender. It’s clear that he is deceived, and not only that, he is a blind guide who is intent on deceiving others as well. Here’s a newsflash that the C3 lurkers on this site should pass on to “pastor” Kelsey: unless you repent, your money is going to perish with you.
Zorro, I found the quote you were referring to (on Preacher Said What).
“Because here’s the deal; my faith in God is not based on his ability to provide. My faith in God is not based on his ability to provide. My faith in God is based upon the tithe which is the cornerstone, which keeps an open heaven above my life.”
Right. So that’s in direct contrast of Matt 6:25-34, where Jesus said that God would provide for us.
Seriously – why is he speaking to people who are getting BAPTISED (as a sign of faith of salvation) about MONEY and TITHING? What does that have to do with salvation? Nothing! Then he says you can’t serve God and money. It truly makes me wonder what’s more important here – salvation or money.
“Then [Kelsey] says you can’t serve God and money.”
Having directly contradicted Scripture, Mark Kelsey is affirming the fact that he serves money and thus repudiates God. He is preaching the doctrines of demons. Exactly what sort of spirit is this man filled with?
“It truly makes me wonder what’s more important here – salvation or money.”
To Mark Kelsey there is apparently no distinction between those two things; he is a student who has become just like his teacher Phil Pringle.
This is the first time I’ve been able to see the video (it was “private” prior to now). The quote found interesting was where Mark Kelsey says:
“Imagine what Jesus thought sometimes…I could do so much better than this, this guy’s preaching sucks”.
And then I look at the link I posted in comments recently where Phil Pringle teaches church leaders how to handle criticism:
“Fortify yourself whenever the criticism comes and not let it get you…”
Please C3church attendees/followers -take the time to listen to this recent sermon “true and false disciples”. http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/43-33/true-and-false-disciples
Now answer these questions truthfully- you can’t fool God after all!
Would you stop going to that church/ would the church crowd numbers drop:
*If the great music and personal experiences stopped
* if speaking-in-tongues / signs and wonders stopped
* If C3’s messages became focused on eternal life and not this life (e.g. financial success if you tithe/donate enough, personal visions/destiny)?
IF the majority of C3church attendees would eventually move on – doesn’t that strongly suggest to you that your “church” is there to entertain the goats and not feed the sheep as Jesus commanded?
Can I please join your blog? I’m not very tech savvy but I am concerned about what is going on in Pentecostal circles. My life has been greatly damaged by false teaching. It’s a miracle God spared my life!
Annette Morrice said:
Watching Today Tonight, interesting story re: new law possibly being implemented that requires not for profit organisations to disclose full financial reports. Any organisations that do not comply they will be required to pay tax. I really hope this law is passed. I would be a lot more willing to give if I knew what was being done with my donations.