c3 church, c3 global presence conference, C3 Global Presence Conference 2011, C3 Presence Conference, ccc, CHC, Christian City Church, Christian City Church Global Presence Conference, City Harvest Church, courts, Elder, Foong, foong daw ching, global presence conference, Global Presence Conference 2011, Kong Hee, Phil Pringle, Presence Conference, Pringle, Sun Ho
We hope that Senior District Judge See Kee Oon takes note of Mr Foong claiming God spoke to him saying, “Son, speak to the judge”.
Foong later claimed, “initially I was quite upset, but then I know where they are coming from… They are definitely very troubled”. The “troubled” that Foong mentioned were “two defendants” that “came to [his] office seeking prayer”. So God wanted Foong Daw Ching to say to the judge that those two defendants are “are definitely very troubled”?
Who does Foong Daw Ching think he is?
Isn’t this cult-like behaviour to use God to speak like this to a judge? In Foong’s mind, who is this judge to now think he has the right to have an opinion on these “two defendants” contrary to what God said to him?
And since God is speaking to Foong Daw Ching, why doesn’t he ask God to fix his faulty memory so he can help the court?
We bring this to our readers attention for this reason: CHC’s Advisory Pastor, CHC ‘Apostle’ and ‘Prophet’ gave this “Apostolic proclamation and blessing” over Kong Hee and Sun Ho back in his 2011 Presence Conference.
“In Jesus name, Father we pronounce victory. [Crowd cheers]. We pronounce conquering. We pronounce deliverance in JESUS NAME. NOT ONE NIGHT WILL THIS FAIR HEAD SPEND BEHIND BARS. LORD GOD YOUR NAME IS EXALTED. YOU WILL GLORIFY THE NAME OF JESUS to this great man and his wife and that awesome church that they have built by the power of God and in the name of Jesus…” [Read/Listen to more here]
We’ve revealed that Phil Pringle of the C3 Church movement has mislead the general Singaporean public about his past, which has led many in CHC to believe he is an “Apostle”. We have continually revealed that Pringle has uttered false prophecies proving he is a false prophet. We have continually exposed how he uses his platform, prophecies and pouts to discredit anyone who has issues with his leadership. In fact, we know that he has huge issues with people (especially his leaders) visiting our site. In his eyes (or God’s) we are “very troubled”. And Pringle’s henchmen and members continually defend what “God is doing” at C3 and dismiss those that oppose them as “troubled”. This attitude is also evident as we have now seen in CHC leadership.
Is this not the height of arrogance? Should we be surprised the world mocks the church for this ludicrousy? Should we be shocked that Jesus calls those who “prophesy”, those who claim to “hear God” and “speak on his behalf” “lawless ones”? (Matt 7:15-23.)
We hope that the court comes to realise they are not dealing with a biblical ‘elder’. They are not dealing with ‘pastors’ of a ‘church’. They are dealing with leaders of a cult. This means Foong Daw Ching fails the biblical requirements laid out in Titus 1:5-9. Specifically, he is disqualified as an elder (see bold),
“This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.”
A true biblical elder would NOT remain in a church like CHC that continually desecrates the name of Jesus, His gospel and His Word. As we’ve seen, the CHC leadership is not even faithful with the basic handling of God Himself and His Holy scriptures. If a cult like this can get away with mishandling the basics of the Christian faith (either deliberately or unintentionally), it is only a matter of time before they are back in the courts over another issue that is badly mishandled. The Singaporean churches and the government need to approach issues within CHC with much wisdom.
The Straits Times reports,
Auditor: God told me to speak to the judge
SINGAPORE – Court proceedings for the City Harvest trial kicked off on Thurday with a surprise request by prosecution witness Foong Daw Ching to tell the judge “something from my heart”.
Senior District Judge See Kee Oon allowed it.
Mr Foong said that while he was sleeping the night before, “this voice kept coming to me, and as a Christian, I believe this voice must be from God. He said, ‘Son, speak to the judge.'”
The 63-year-old auditor said he was “hurt” that in the past few days, the defence accused him of distancing himself from City Harvest Church. He then pointed out that two of the accused had, in fact, taken advantage of him during a recent meeting.
Mr Foong had met John Lam and Tan Ye Peng last December to discuss the case. It was revealed this week that the two church leaders filed their own notes on what Mr Foong said in case he changed his tune.
Mr Foong said they did not tell him they were taking notes. They had asked to meet him to pray together, and he agreed as he is “an elder and a Christian counsellor”.
“Two of the defendants came to my office seeking prayer, yet they took the opportunity to record, thinking that I may say something otherwise.. for some safety,” he said.
When he found out about this during the trial, “initially I was quite upset, but then I know where they are coming from… They are definitely very troubled”, he said.
Mr Foong also wanted to restate what he knew about the six accused and City Harvest, but the judge disallowed it as the defence is still cross-examining him.
Defence lawyers have sought to show that church leaders looked up to Mr Foong and trusted his advice, and that his consistent denial that he gave them detailed guidance on various transactions was “breaking their hearts”.
Tessa Wong, Auditor: God told me to speak to the judge, The Straits Times, http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/auditor-god-told-me-speak-judge, Sep 22, 2013. (Accessed 27/01/2014.)
So now “Brother Foong” realised that “Brothers” John Lam and Tan Ye Peng had taken advantage of him. They are supposed to be God’s men, spiritual fathers to others, yet they do such disgraceful things to one another. They dishonour God, and with this revelation by Foong made public, they have all but tarnished God’s glory.
Let Pringle continue uttering his oracles, for nothing leaves his mouth without returning back to him. The deeds of CHC leaders are unrighteous and despicable – misusing hard-earned money from their deluded flock, and having wasted the money, again asked for more under their latest ‘Arise & Build’ programme. If Pringle is righteous, he should not pray and ask God to defend Kong Hee – such prayers only make non-believers puke, as they are led to believe that the Holy and Righteous Almighty God will listen and even accede to such prayers. They will laugh and despise at such a God. If God allows the crooks (including Pringle) to escape scot-free, won’t God only be tainting his own reputation?
If Kong Hee and gang want mercy, they should repent, throw dust on their heads and plead with the Good Lord for mercy. Admit fault and stop fighting in the court, and stop trying to push the blame onto the auditors. While the Lord will not let them go completely free, but if He so chooses – He can make the punishment less harsh. But no, not according to Kong Hee – for he said this year is going to be his year of victory, expansion, ….what crap!! Brain dead.
Totally agree with you Jacob. All this sin of “so called Christians leaders” has made me extremely wary and appalled.
Why don’t you hear of Christian leaders telling you that God told them to tell “Pharoah” to “let my people go”? Followed by plagues if the power that be resisted God? You don’t hear of such daring pronouncement because it will be their immediate downfall or demise. They will be more believable to gullible followers if their God spoke ambiguously and the probability(practical or possible outcome) works in their favor
When those who tell you god said this and that start to walk on waters or heal hordes of fatally ill patients and raise the dead in hospitals, then maybe your time in church is not wasted?