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To C3 members who read our site, have you ever wondered why Phil Pringle never treated you as a pastor should? Ever thought why he never cared about you the way other pastors do? Well, here is Phil Pringle explaining to you why he is not fit to be a pastor.
“You gotta know what your sweet spot is and what your sweet spot is not. I have found that my life is more about the “to-not-to-do” list than the “to-do” list.
When I became a Pastor there were all kinds of expectations on me. In my own head mostly I felt what a Pastor is meant to be. He’s meant to visit people in a hospital. He’s meant to counsel people. He’s meant to bring a sermon. He’s meant to sit in committee meetings. He’s meant to do this and that. And all of these things were in my head.
But the first time a person came to me for council, I felt, the whole anointing that I had go. Everything left me.
My shoulder’s slumped, all the energy went out on me. When this woman started talking to me I felt like I had no answers I didn’t know what to do, I was so tired. She’d be speaking for two minutes and I was worn out. So, I put my hands in my head as though I was deeply concerned, but I went to asleep.
The weird thing was when I woke up she was still talking. It kills me. I am not a councilor, do not come to me for council, you will be worse at the end of the session.
I have no empathy bone in my body. I feel for some things, but I don’t ever make decisions. And I can’t be worried about all the little feelings of people all the time. I’m sending people into war, I’m sending couples like this to cities I’ve never been to, San Diego. They come up and say, “Oh what’s going to happen, oh… GO!”
Source: Phil Pringle, “Find Your Flavor” // Phil Pringle // 03.16.14, Vimeo, https://vimeo.com/89512591, Sermon time: 10:40, Preached 16/03/2014, Uploaded 09/032014 at 10:49 AM. (Accessed 28/07/2015.)
“Hospital visitation! Oh Lord! Hospital visitation!
Pastors are meant to go the hospital.
“Pastor can you come? Our baby’s about to die. Oh, you know, we just want you to be here with us.”
“Oh that’s a terrible situation.”
I drove over – Chhhh! – like this. I run up the stairs. Now you know, I’m not good with blood and medical things. I was talking to a nurse in New Zealand- we had our New Zealand Conference recently. Eight hundred pastors and wives in this thing just two weeks ago – and one of the pastors wives tells me she’s a nurse.
She says, “Oh it’s so wonder when you’re in surgery to hold the lungs of the patient there and feel them breathing.” [Makes gagging noises] You it’s just, I don’t cope. Oh! I go all weak. You know?
When a comes to me and says, “I’m pregnant,” I go, “Oh!” all over you know. I get a shiver. I go- I don’t cope with all that stuff.
Someone says, “I got a little problem up here in my mouth.” And they show me you know, some absinth. And I go, “Ahhhh!” I’m not- I’m not good with that.
So I run up this thing and there’s this poor little baby that’s [inauible]. And it’s had terrible problems and it’s only kept alive by a machine and they’re gonna be turning the machine off. Oh God! It’s just so terrible.
But I walk in and the room is like, dark. And it’s the intensive care room. And there’s these little babies. And there’s incubators around the room. And there’s deet-doot-deet-doot-deet-doot-deet-doot and chkyaw-uh-chkyaw-uh-chkaw- all these sounds going like this. And I walk and there’s not a lot of air in there. And I start seeing those little dots, you know in front of your eyes before you’re going to faint. Those little stars that boom-boomba.
I thought, “Good God! I’m gonna faint.” And I said, “Hi everybody! Hi!”
And I could hardly see them. It’s like a snow storm now. I’m going like – [makes short breathing sound] – I thought, “I’ll reach out. I’ll just lean on this bench and let the faint pass-t. I wont be able to talk. I’ll just stare at them and then- I’ll be fine.”
And I lean out to put my hand in the bench. But it’s not a bench. It’s a trolley. And the trolley starts going like this! I go- right out through the SWING DOORS!
BANG! BANG!
Out into the hallway. K’BAAM!
I’m lying on the ground and the nurse’s knees are in my face saying, “Can you hear pastor Phil?!?”
And I can hear her. I can see her but I can’t talk.
“Ugh! UGH! – UGH!!!”
I’m trying to do something. … Not a sweet spot. You don’t want me visiting you in hospital.
I know what I’m meant to do.
I went to India to be a missionary at one stage. People said it would break your heart. The six week tour of India preaching. I hated it so much.
I didn’t like the people. I didn’t like. I thought, “Am I a Christian? My God! This is awful! This is so awful!”
I come back to Sydney Australia and I see this guy’s mullet. You know like hair hanging out here, pushing a shopping trolley, arguing with his wife. And I started weeping.
“God I love these people.” And I knew where I was called. The to-not-do list becomes more important than the to-do list because everybody will try to get you to do stuff that’s got nothing to do with what he ordained you for before you were born, in Jesus name.
It takes a lot of courage to not do some things. It takes more courage to say no than to say yes and trying to be a people pleaser. The secret to misery in life is trying to keep everybody happy. You got to stop trying to keep everybody happy and say, “Look, I just can’t do that. This person can do it. They’re much better at it.”
When people come to me and ask if I can heal the sick, you know I can do it every now and then, you know, pray for them and it happens. But Andrew Kubala is far better! Why would I want to be the hero? Batman. Superman. Spiderman. Clergyman.”
Source: Phil Pringle, “Find Your Flavor” // Phil Pringle // 03.16.14, Vimeo, https://vimeo.com/89512591, Sermon time: 14:00, Preached 16/03/2014, Uploaded 09/032014 at 10:49 AM. (Accessed 28/07/2015.)
And what if you do get sick? Who will pay the church mortgage? Who will pay for the regular junkets overseas? Who will pay for the “vision” and the Vision dinners? Please, stay in good health – it’s your job to serve and keep him in the manner he’s become quite accustomed to.
Don’t expect Phil Pringle to serve you within the guidelines of a pastor in 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus. He’s said so himself.
As disturbing and shocking as Pringle’s words may be, and they are, what disturbs me more than anything is the sound of his adoring fans laughing and even applauding him!!!
It makes me think that trying to expose these charlatans is a losing battle. How could ANY person who purports to want to live in the image of Christ, think ANY such comments are funny?
Perhaps the people who laughed and applauded would put their hands up now and identify themselves and explain their actions.
As to the poor woman who was distressed enough to seek assistance from her Pastor, only to be treated with such contempt, the heart of Jesus was awake to your pain that day whether Pringle was asleep or not.
But thanks Mister Pringle (I can’t possibly in good conscience address you as “Pastor”), I now understand your behaviour a whole lot better.
It’s a great pity you didn’t see fit to explain your attitudes before you built your “megachurch” – I somehow think that we might all have seen a different result and many, many good and trusting people would have been saved from your destructive clutches.
One that sticks in my mind and doesn’t sound like much (but shows his mocking ways) was when Phil was at c3 Bridgeman Downs years ago and talking about expanding the church (building). He said he wanted “Buntings” (Bunnings, which is across the road) – to the cheer of the crowd. Then he said, “..and the Guide Dogs too” (training centre on the other side of the road) – “…I mean they can’t see anyway!” – to the rapturous laughter and applause from the crowd. Mocking whoever he wants.
And I ashamedly say I would have been one there at the time laughing.
Ahhhh ……. but he does want to be your financial adviser, he’s good at that !!!!
you nailed it there
Hey Phil!
Guess what?
YOU ARE A JOKE.
Making fun of visiting a baby ICU?
Making fun of poor people in India?
You are a DISGRACE to the church.
No wonder I, and countless others, have left your “church”.
Not just making fun of poor people in India, rejecting them outright! “I didn’t like the people.” Phil Pringle doesn’t like those that God made in his own image. Wow. I have no words.
What a liar Pringle is…
At the end of this video he tells an Indian girl that he “loves Indians”
So what is it Pringle? You love Indians or you hate them or are you schizophrenic as usual?
Around the 27 min mark if you don’t want to watch the whole message.
Good call…………waste of time listening to all this garbage and self promotion.
phil pringle does love indians. but only while they’re giving him money.
nfg
Oh my this is the worst! He finally admits he is not fit to be a pastor. He likes to entertain the crowd anything to get a laugh, and the new hair colour is interesting. I was at C3 and vising the sick and the dying on a regular basis – I had a girl on her death bed she had been part of the church for years. Two days before she died she asked if I would ask Pastor Chris to come and visit her. I got a NO if I do it for her I would have to do it for everyone! A card signed by her was also refused.
I too agree with the above comment on the laughter and yelling from the crowd ( not congregation) Yah go on Pastor Phil, egging him on. Who are these people?
“Two days before [a girl on her deathbed] died she asked if I would ask Pastor Chris to come and visit her. I got a NO if I do it for her I would have to do it for everyone! A card signed by her was also refused.”
Chris Pringle? The woman who felt like she “had a knife in her heart” when it looked like she and Phil might miss out on their purchase of a $3.5 million house? It seems like “Mama” Chris is not a very motherly type at all, but is in fact a very cold fish. It’s obvious that Chris is a good match for Phil “Empathy Free Zone” Pringle, and that she is quite comfortable playing Jezebel to his Ahab.
As for those in Phil’s audience who were laughing, I wonder how many are aware that a lack of empathy is one of the markers for psychopathy. No doubt these same goats will have no hesitation whatsoever in accepting the Antichrist when he is revealed.
Anyone remember the same raucous laughter when Todd Bentley said he healed an old lady by “kicking her in the face with his biker boot because the Holy Spirit told him to”?
Same spirit, just not the Holy Spirit.
i saw that todd bentley thing. that was very surprising anyone could be so cold-hearted.
nfg
O…M…Gosh… I couldn’t even watch the second video longer than 30 seconds.. I am in disbelief that he would even say anything like this, let alone publicly! My heart is breaking right at this point, thinking of the countless people who have thought that because Phil is a pastor or their pastor that he cares for them and would pray for them….. If we aren’t on this earth to love people and meet them where they are at and point them to Jesus, then what are we here on earth for!? Im so deeply shocked that I dont really have any more words. All i know is that these two videos will haunt me.
Call me a cynic (lol), but I was thinking the same thing. Kind of like Mike Warnke. It’s ok to stretch the truth, insult people, or tell lies if it’s for Jesus, right?
Mull on this – and advise if you agree with me:
With Phil (and much of c3) it’s a combination of hype and the tall poppy syndrome.
If you can’t be big enough to step outside of yourself and be a listening ear to somebody that’s hurting, and then pray for them, lay on hands and ask God’s Holy Spirit to minister comfort, God’s Love and wisdom to another human being that is suffering then how can you even speak in church, to your congregation. Phil should just hold church growth meetings, success workshops, and financial excellence seminars. Don’t know why he would even be speaking in a regular church meeting.
“I had a girl on her death bed she had been part of the church for years. Two days before she died she asked if I would ask Pastor Chris to come and visit her. I got a NO if I do it for her I would have to do it for everyone! A card signed by her was also refused.”
Clearly her problem was she didn’t have a media profile, because if you get a media profile like Kristian Anderson did when Oprah got him on her show, Phil will make a big song and dance out of it and turn it into a C3 promo, complete with his son singing a U2 cover!
Honestly on the one hand it’s shocking to hear it from him so blatantly, but on the other am I really surprised? The man is a snake oil salesman. He cares about dollars and numbers, not individuals.
Having said that it is interesting to learn that Phil can heal the sick although he’s not as good as Andrew Kubala, so why should Phil “ be the hero“?
Pasta Pringle……… Lacking in substance though easily swallowed by devotees
Wonder that he hasn’t marketted Pringles Pasta to help fund a new Beamer to go to ATM (all the money) loops auditorium for the fleecing.
Is it possible old phil can go any lower? How could someone find ‘humour’ in a heartbreaking story of a dying child in the room? And C3 people laugh at it?
There is a very serious problem in C3 and pringle’s mentality.
Pringle also goes on to say he can “heal people from time to time”….this is new…When did pringle stumble across this new ‘power’..?
Kubala is better at ‘healing’…may i ask HOW??? ZERO verified healings from kubala and he is better than phil….can’t get much worse than that.
Again pringle is trying to push this ‘I am so important ego agenda, that he can’t be bothered with the ‘small’ stuff.This means YOU C3 people and your ‘small’ problems!
Can’t you see phil has his self-appointed, anointed church to run?
Hungry? See someone else….In Prison?…see someone else..Need a hot meal or blanket? See someone else….Dying children? See someone else.
Pringle doesn’t have the time. A disgrace.
Pringle is a egomaniac who doesn’t have time for you Christians…unless you happen to sail pass him on Sydney Harbour, where he may claim to have stopped the wind and waves, along with his other ‘powers’
Luckily…our Lord Jesus Christ DID have the time.
Matt25:40 KJV “And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me”.
Can i also just add some scripture as to what happens to people like pringle who stress personal philosophies such as ‘It’s important what you DON’T do’ mentality.
Matt25:45 KJV …”Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it NOT to one of the least of these, ye did it NOT to me”.
And the RESULT of this pringle’s thinking according to Scripture?
Matt25:46KJV …”And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal”.
So much for pringle and his ‘no time, I’m important’ theory.
to sit there week after week and listen to phil pringle shoot off his mouth would be bad enough. but it is even more surprising how many ‘Christians’ give any money on top of that to phil pringle’s churches. one almost has to be asking for a deception, to take this man seriously.
actually, not asking, begging for a deception.
nfg
Yes – looks like C3CW account has been terminated. “Copyright Infringement” eh? Maybe because you can “purchase” sermons, ie breaching.
But we all know why…..
Like a Police officer said to me once regarding a suspect offender – if they’ve done nothing wrong there’s nothing to hide. Not suggesting PP has committed any criminal offences of course. Though as for his teaching, attitudes, motivation…
Oh and expect a new Chookwatch post.
Hey Chookwatcher – so defiant on defending Phil? Come on, tell us what you think of these videos! Tell us how Phil is doing right by making jokes of counselling, poor people in India, babies dying, these eyewitness accounts….
Yep, looks like the C3 Churchwatch Youtube account’s been taken down due to “third party notifications of copyrights infringement”. “Kong Hee” and City Harvest Church” are among those complaining.
Berean I think Phil’s first move is to shut down the youtube account and draw no attention to any of this. If Churchwatcher is able to successfully defend their use (as he should) and the video’s are back out there then he might try the “context” defence, although I can’t think of any context whatsoever to be as cold-hearted as he is in these videos.
These video’s show him for what he is, and they are very very revealing. If I was a C3 churchgoer right now and saw those video’s I’d be looking for another church. Phil has no loyalty to any of his “people” – he is only interested in transferring their wealth to himself, like all successful conmen.
Phil received an Order of Australia for “services to the community“. Now I don’t know how he managed to get that one, but does the Phil in these video’s sound like someone deserving of that title?
i am glad i watched the videos beforehand, but am not pleased that C3 and CHC have stooped so low to resort to complaining and shutting down a valid and truthful youtube account.
how much more truthful can you be, than to let someone’s own words, speak for themselves?
C3 and CHC attitude: when you can’t beat ’em, cheat.
so to add to all previous C3 and CHC falsehoods… these 2 churches have borne false witness against C3CW. since this had nothing to do with ‘copyright infringement’. or they would have shut it shut down long ago.
members of these churches, if they are smart, must ask themselves, what info is getting out that is so bad it must be censored?
to me, this is proof that regardless of the happy face C3 and CHC are publicly putting on, PP and KH are feeling the heat from C3CW
nfg
Looks like it’s going world-wide even without the YouTube clip:
http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2014/07/gary-lambs-greatest-hits.html
Program segments:
• Money Scam Template
• TD Jakes False Instinct Doctrine
• Phil Pringle Has No Empathy
• Sermon Review: Greatest Hits “In a Pit on a Snowy Day” by Gary Lamb
i’m glad its not going to be easily hushed away. ..
and PP must have missed this verse:
Luke 12:3 “What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.”
so according to Jesus, one day not only this, but everything, will come to be known.
someone may be able to silence the truth to some extent for awhile, but not forever.
nfg
Preventing their material from being viewed online via shutting down a Youtube channel…. “curiouser and curiouser”…. NOT. Preventing himself as being seen* as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” under the guise of copyright infringement is worthy of a separate entry C3Churchwatcher.
Matthew 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
If the C3 church is truly a light to those in darkness (unsaved world) shouldn’t Pringle have been rejoicing that his *full* speeches were being watched on an extremely high-traffic, international video website?
* excluding brainwashed C3 devotees, those in altered states of consciousness and/or IQ lower <50.
Hey “pastor” Phil, C3CW must be hurting you really, really badly if you have to resort to getting youtube accounts shut down. Still, if you’re stung and embarrassed, you’ve got no one to blame but yourself, have you?
What I’d like to know is this: how is it that you have to hide what you’ve said, if you are truly full of the Holy Spirit? Weren’t you preaching under the “anointing”? If you were, how is that you said something that’s come back to bite you so badly? Don’t tell me – did the devil make you do it, Phil? And if you’re making such glaring errors as this, how can your people trust the other stuff that you say? When you tell them they’ve got to give you their money or else suffer dire consequences, how do they know that you’re truly speaking on behalf of God, as opposed to talking utter rubbish out of your own twisted little mind?
And back on the subject of you having no empathy, could you please explain why you don’t give a rat’s for the poor and downtrodden, but you can still muster up endless care and concern for your mendacious mate Kong Hee?
P.S.
I was going to say that I empathised with your pain, but of course you wouldn’t understand.
Shutting down the videos just goes to prove what many have said about pringle for decades…guilty of cowardice.
We would like to clarify – it appears Hillsong is the one that shut us down. However, knowing there is some peculiar C3/Hillsong alliance, we are speculating this could have been a joint effort.
We are working quickly to get our account back up and running.
The notification I get when I visit your channel says it is subject to complaints from a number of parties, and mentions specifically “Kong Hee” and “City Harvest Church”. If Hillsong’s involved as well then this is a highly coordinated attack, and it doesn’t take Doctorate in Biblical Counselling from a diploma mill to figure out who’s behind it.
All I can say is I hope you can stand your ground on this and fight it. I’ll have you in my prayers tonight.
‘[C3CW youtube channel] is subject to complaints from a number of parties, and mentions specifically “Kong Hee” and “City Harvest Church”’.
Yeah, that would be right, wouldn’t it? We all know that Kong Hee is a man of integrity who has the highest respect for copyright law, don’t we – I mean, it’s not like he has ever been caught out plagiarising, is it?
Anyway, it seems like Phil Pringle’s star pupil has surpassed him – obviously those who wish to fashion themselves as mega-“church” pastors these days must first take the hypocritic oath.
Phil Pringle has disqualified himself from ministry.
churchwatcher, for some reason your c3 webpage queues up 10 “latest insights” but your hillsong webpage only queues up 7 “recent comments” so those roll off a little faster. have you considered making your hillsong webpage hold 10 “recent comments” too?
nfg
churchwatcher, looks good. thanks!
nfg
You’re welcome.