What if I told you “vision-casting” is the wool that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth?
From Stand Up For The Truth,
CASTING A VISION OR COMMANDEERING CONTROL?
What is vision casting? Where does it come from? And is vision casting biblical? There is a way that is biblical, as our guest explains. And unfortunately, there is a broad way that a growing number of church leaders cast vision that is nowhere to be found in Scripture – but is often used to control and manipulate. Today we’re going to explore those methods with our guest.
” But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,” (1 Timothy 4:1.2 NASB)
Are these things biblical?
Chris Rosebrough is the host of the daily radio program, Fighting For The Faith, heard around the world on Pirate Christian Radio, a broadcast group he founded to help Christians discern God’s Word by taking a look at what people say and teach in the name of Jesus and holding it up to the light of Scripture.
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How do we hear God today?…through His Word.
“Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.” (Hebrews 1:1-2 ESV)
The “vision” for God’s people is to hear the Word and do it…not the fevered imagination of an ego bound leader who would be the untouchable potentate of their church kingdom
“Thus says the LORD of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.” (Jeremiah 23:16 ESV)
andy Kanapoulos said:
I first noticed this ‘vision casting’ popping up around a year and a half ago. Since that time, I’ve seen/heard more & more about it because it’s catching on.
I’ve noticed EIGHT major pastors and ONE denomination and THREE other so-called ‘Christian’ groups who are now espousing it (including *WOF, *NAR, and *EMERGENTS)…
Andy – this has been going on for years. We were exposed to this eight years ago and it wasn’t “a new thing” then.
This kind of thing came in during the late 1980’s and early 90’s from memory – and maybe even before then, but it must have escaped me at the time. Around the same time that C Peter Wagner et al started to become regular visitors to our fair land.
Basically, ‘pastor so and so’ would “get a vision” from God (allegedly) and then foist it onto the local church – and if you didn’t like the ‘vision’ then you would basically be encouraged to either stay silent about it (“yes – we’ll keep on taking your tithe money but just don’t complain about it and wear it…”) or simply leave.
It didn’t matter if your were a part of the founding families of that particular church setting or not – ‘God was doing something new’ and such visions usually placed the senior pastor and his nepotistic ministry team at the forefront of the so-called vision, as it was all about him – what God was going to do with him and through him, and everybody else had to bow before the grand poo-bah and his church vision…
Nowadays, a lot of these local ‘visions’ seem to have morphed into an international setting, where individual ‘visions” are somehow miraculously being seen as a part of a global whole – intertwining and dove tailing – now isn’t that surprising?
Of course, none of this nonsense is Biblically discerned – it is simply swallowed whole and believed…False visions coming from church leaders, that do not come from God, are a sure fire recipe for that church and its ministers to “crash and burn” at a future date… and I have helped to clear the bodies out of one or two such train wrecks in my time…
andy Kanapoulos said:
@ CW and Austin,
Good observations. I guess I was a little behind the curve on this one, I didn’t realize it was going on that long… However I’m glad others are noticing it too…
Hi Andy – here’s an interesting link to a part of Tanya Levin’s book (People In Glass Houses) which is posted at Google Online:
Sorry about the length of it, but it should work OK – the relevant par reads from the beginning of chapter 1 to around page 15 – essentially the whole chapter is interesting, with Tanya seeming to be more than fair in several places.
andy Kanapoulos said:
Austin, I will check that out… Thanks, bro!