The Bashing Of The Bloggers:
Every believer in Christ should be a discerner of false teachings and doctrinal heresies.
“In many Churches and sundry corners of the Evangelical Corporate Machine, it has become very popular [and occasionally profitable] to castigate, abuse, ridicule, and give warnings about “discernment bloggers” involved in Online Discernment Ministries. This is not always done by pastors and popular teachers who broach the issue unsettled and irked after finding themselves to be the targets of these bloggers, but more importantly and more broadly, by the very same laypeople who have egg on their face from not listening the last time they were warned about an important matter.
Here’s an inconvenient truth about discernment bloggers- for the ones who are thoughtful, accountable, well-researched and biblically centered, they’re proven right 99% of the time. They just are. It doesn’t take much to peruse the archives of Fightingforthefaith or Justin Peters Ministries, or Apprising ministries, or Wretched, and to a lesser extent the Pulpit and Pen to see the almost prophetic accuracy in which they’ve successfully called it. It almost always comes to pass. They pick up on and spot the small cracks in the theology as everyone insists there’s nothing there. “Sound and firm as a rock” they say, right before the chasm bursts open and swallows everyone whole.
As a general rule, so-called “discernment bloggers” are about 36-48 months ahead of the curve in calling out danger that the rest of the evangelical Church only figures out after it’s become too late to minimize their losses.
For those who read the blogs and share with your loved ones the things you’re learning and are concerned about, this is why your family members and friends shrug you off and dismiss you as a “nitpicker,” telling you to “stand down” and stop sharing the blogs and Facebook status updates with them . If you’re lucky they might start talking to you again later down the road once it’s generally agreed upon that the man or woman in question was indeed sketchy and it doesn’t cost anything to admit his/her spiritual deviancy and shortcomings, though they’ll likely never apologize for calling you “divisive” and “unloving” the first time around.
That’s because they’ll put the old stuff behind them, but then you’re back at square one with them once you start talking about the “new stuff.” For these discernment ministries doing the work of loving their neighbors, despite a stellar track record, though they may be begrudging acknowledged when they’re proven right on past dangers, they’re still mocked and belittled when they warn about other new imminent dangers to the Church, as if it’s been complete forgotten that they were just proven right. Again. For the tenth time! It’s a vicious circle. It’s not difficult to suppose that much of the angst toward discernment bloggers is due to the fact that the passing of time continually vindicates them, while the one theologically tweaked is continually put to shame.
The same people who said, “You’re just discernment bloggers” about Mark Driscoll’s imminent downfall, or the dangers of the Emergent Church and Rob Bell and his emergent mysterios before they went full-heretic, or a ton of other warnings and cautions that have been brought up and shown to be startlingly accurate in their realization, these people are now still saying “You’re just discernment bloggers” about Russell Moore’s capitulation on important issues, social liberalism and full-blown ecumenism, or “You’re just discernment bloggers” regarding Beth Moore’s mysticism and growing Vision-Spawning Charasmanianical Claptrap . If the “discernment bloggers” keep getting it right on the other stuff that you didn’t see then, perhaps you could give them the benefit of a doubt on the stuff they’re talking about that you may not see now.
Instead of taking potshots at them and the people who learn from them and share their statuses and tweets, they would be better served spending less time rolling their eyes and complaining that discord is being sown and more time trying learning from the Bible that discernment is a spiritual gift for the edification of the Church and not an annoyance for which they and other mainstream evangelicals ought to despise them for.”
Source: By Jordan Hall, The Bashing Of The Bloggers, Pulpit & Pen, http://pulpitandpen.org/2014/11/29/the-bashing-of-the-bloggers/, Published/Edited 29/11/2014. (Edited/Expanded by Dustin Germain.) (Accessed 30/11/2014.)
Jordan Hall is the pastor of Fellowship Church in Sidney Montana. He is also a co-founder and executive board member of Reformation Montana, a missions-oriented organization made up of Reformed churches throughout Montana. In May 2013, Jordan gave a message at the 2013 Reformation Montana Conference entitled “A Modern Day Downgrade” that has quickly become the most listened to message of his career. In that message, he addressed some of the more embarrassing behavior and conduct within the Evangelical church in general and the Southern Baptist Convention specifically and pleaded with those involved to come to repentance (click here to listen).
Thank God for your discernment site.
As Jesus told us over 2000 years ago; BEWARE of false teachers or shepherds who take or use His name in vain. This days; we are living in the most dangerous times, and very easy to be deceived and end up in hell, because of those people who call themselves “pastors”, but whose main interests are nothing else but building for themselves names, and financial empires.
Just by looking at Jesus trough the New Testament; of who He is, what He teaches and what He commanded us to do, and what He did whilst on earth in His physical body, and comparing Him and His teachings, with the teachings and behaviour of those people who totally ignore His teachings or twist them purposely, we can only rich just one conclusion; these people definitely are doing two things: number one blaspheming The Name of Our Lord and God, and number two, sending souls straight to hell.
I could not be more grateful to Our Lord for your site. We definitely need even more sites like yours, to not only openly expose the deceivers and twisters of the truth, but most importantly to warn us right on time.
God bless you all, and everyone who agrees with you, and the work that you are doing and supports it.
And definitely; DISCERNMENT, is a spiritual gift for the edification of the church, not because I say so, but only because Jesus Our Lord God says so, and so does my Bible and our Bible. Amen
As long as (alleged) Christians choose positive experiences over genuine spiritual truth, until Jesus Christ comes people like discernment bloggers will be dismissed, criticized, condemned, socially ostracized and so on.
The truth can be painful, lies often bring (short-term) pleasures – how else could so many false teachers get away with it unless people do *not* wish to face the truth?
something interesting ive noticed about this.. and i keep noticing it over & over again..
the same ones criticizing all the discernment websites, are the same ones who lack discernment & need to listen the most.
in fact the most outspoken a critic of these sites is, the more lies theyre likely to have fallen for..
nfg
And of course they start their own blogs to refute these blogs. Claiming to love the Lord and His Word, they become part the problem and not the answer, loving (desiring?) the glory that comes from man (Phil Pringle?) more than the glory that comes from God.
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.
“And of course they start their own blogs to refute these blogs.”
and in gordy’s case, re-starts his own blog and hides it (because its a work of darkness).
Did you know the counter site of this wont even let you comment on their posts?
Think we should send him back to the colonies? Might warm us up a bit here in old Blighty.
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.
“Did you know the counter site of this won’t even let you comment on their posts?”
Yes, and to think how Gordy used to boast that he didn’t stoop to moderating comments, unlike *some* web sites. Of course, that was before he suffered the indignity of being on the losing end of a number of exchanges, much to his (very public) embarrassment.
The great irony, of course, is that although Gordy is the self-appointed apologist-in-chief of C3, he nevertheless does not subscribe to C3’s theology on “tithing”, which “pastor” Mark Kelsey has risibly referred to as both “the foundation” and “the cornerstone”. Gordy’s position is that the “anointed apostle” Phil Pringle is wrong; that is to say that Phil is a purveyor of heretical teaching. This is no doubt the reason that Gordy was removed from the leadership of C3 Darwin, and why records of him having been there were subsequently sanitised by expunging any reference to him. That Gordy continues to play the part of Phil Pringle’s lap dog can only be attributed to the fact that he must be suffering from a spiritual version of Stockholm syndrome. It’s all very sad, and more than a little pathetic.
You can comment. But why bother? Do you really think you can thaw the ‘ice’ over here? Perhaps, like Israel, God has given him over to his stubborn heart, to follow his own counsel.
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.
Yes, it appears that “second-guess Steve”, the double-minded yo-yo, has changed tack again: you can in fact comment on his two latest articles, but not on any of the earlier ones.
We know that Phil Pringle was partial to illicit substances in his hippie days (before he saw the light and gave his life to the god of mammon). Phil may well have fried a few neurons too many back then, and if that’s coming home to roost now, it would explain the tendency for his train of thought to suffer multiple spontaneous derailments in the course of one of his “sermons”. Given that this is the case, we can cut Phil a little slack when he launches into his thoroughly confused narcigetical nonsense that makes a dog’s breakfast look well organised, but what excuse does Steve have for his own perennial flip-flopping? Is he merely mimicking his master? Does he realise how silly he makes himself look? Hasn’t anyone from C3 taken him aside and had a quiet word to him, explaining that he should try to conduct himself in a manner that doesn’t embarrass the entire movement and hold them up for even more ridicule than they already attract?
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