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What Noise Will You Make In 2016?

31 Sunday Jan 2016

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In his introduction to this particular Fighting For The Faith program, Chris Rosebrough gives a serious warning to those who twist God’s Word.

Chris begins:

“In my lecture I delivered in Norway on “sola scriptura”, my primary text was the Great Commission. Let me read what the Great Commission says …”

Matthew 28:18-20: “And Jesus came and said to them, all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me.“

That’s an important statement right there, and a lot of people, when they look at the Great Commission, they often ignore that. Ok, Jesus isn’t speaking his opinion, he’s speaking what he’s giving us to do now that all authority, yes all, there’s no authority in heaven or on earth that hasn’t been given to Christ. He is the head not the tail, if you know what I mean and He has willed for His church to do something very specific. Here’s what it says,

“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.”

What is a disciple? A disciple is a learner. What are they to be learning? Well, Jesus answers, he says:

“…make disciples of all nations, baptising the in the name of the Father, Son and. Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all I have commanded you.”

Yes, in other words, in the Great Commission, you actually hear the doctrine of Sola Scriptura writ large by Jesus himself because in His church, according to the authority that has been given to Him, Christ has said to go and make disciples. And what is it we’re supposed to be teaching them? All that Christ has commanded.

Now you’re thinking “well, where do I find that?” Yes, that’s a great question, I’m glad you asked. The only place I know of that you can go with any certainty and know that you are actually teaching the words of Christ, is all of the written word of God. And you’re thinking, “Woah, wait a second there Chris. You know Jesus is a New Testament guy, you know. He doesn’t even show up until, you know, the beginning of the Book of Matthew!”

And I would say, “if you think that, then you don’t know your bible.” Because Jesus is all over the Old Testament, all over it. He’s right there in Genesis chapter 1, verse 1. He was the one who said: “Let there be light”. He was the one who said: “Let the earth produce vegetation and plant and seed bearing trees according to their kinds.” He is the one who spoke the universe into existence, that’s right, Jesus is the one. And so, he makes appearances all throughout the Old Testament. He’s all over the place and really the whole Old Testament is about him.

And so I know with certainty because Jesus says, Jesus himself. When he was doing his earthly ministry here, when he was incarnate in his humbled state, to come and to die on the cross for our sins and to obey God’s Law perfectly. Jesus himself makes it clear that the Old Testament as we have it, that would be the Pentateuch, you know, the first five books of the bible, the writings of the prophets. That this is the Word of God. He always refers to it as that and quotes it authoritatively. So I know the Old Testament, that the Word of God, those are words of Christ. And I also know that the writings of the Apostles we find in the New Testament, those are also authoritative . And they are the words that Christ would have us learn because Jesus Himself, He personally didn’t write any books. We don’t have a single book that Jesus wrote Himself during his earthly ministry. In fact, He left that up to the Apostles and He tasked them with the job of making disciples of all nations. And the disciples are discipling the nations even to this day, through the Apostolic records.

So yes, I’m sorry but if you believe that we’ve been commissioned to go make disciples, learners, of all nations, baptising, teaching all that Christ has commanded, well then that demands Sola Scriptura. Not only does it demand Sola Scriptura, it also demands that the one who gets up and speaks in Christ’s church, remember all authority has been given to Him, the one who gets up and dares to speak in Christ’s church had better only speak what Christ would have us speak.

And that is what He has revealed in His written Word, rightly understood and correctly taught. Otherwise that person, who is speaking his own words, his own doctrines, his own ideas and supplanting what Christ has commanded us, with their own ideas, oh, that it a wicked servant, that is the type of servant that is discussed well in John chapter 10, the hireling who jumps the fence and doesn’t come in by the gate. Yes those are the ones you need to beware of and over and again we show here at “Fighting For The Faith”, day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, and now year and year and year – you know we’ve been on the air for almost ten years, I cannot believe we’re coming up on ten years but still have a little ways to go.

We’re not quite there yet but we demonstrate that so much of what passes for preaching today in Christ’s church, the one to whom all authority has been given in Heaven and on earth, it doesn’t actually square with what Jesus has told us to teach. It isn’t an historical biblical Christian orthodoxy, it’s not sound doctrine at all, it’s something completely different and that is dangerous and not only that, that is flat out rebellious.

You call yourself a Christian? You call yourself a Christian and you twist and mangle God’s Word without any pangs of conscious? Beware, that is sin of the highest order, it’s treason in Christ’s church and it is a sin for which many will find themselves in the lake of fire. So repent. Don’t listen to the bible twisters. Christ doesn’t want you to listen to them. He only wants you to listen to those faithful shepherds who rightly handling His Word and proclaiming the Truth and proclaiming Christ and truly making disciples of Jesus by only teaching what He has commanded….something to think about.”

The particular sermon delivered and reviewed in this program is from Caley Korocz, a young woman who attends C3 Oxford Falls in Sydney, the same C3 led by Phil Pringle.

Caley Korocz

Chris asks us to,

“note the pattern of how God’s Word is twisted, very similar in each of our segments. [see program below] Not exactly sure how to describe what we are hearing but it’s a far from a correct handling of God’s Word. It’s like the exact opposite of what that would supposedly sound like. But then again, the C3 folks, you know, they’re not really into that “God’s Word” much thingy at all. No they twist it and and disobey it and ignore parts of it and all this kind of stuff including the part that actually forbids who it is you’re going to be hearing, from doing what it is that’s she doing.

Yes, Gods Word certainly forbids what it is we’re going to hear Caley do but apparently that has not stopped the folks over there at C3 church to give her the stage, the podium and let her preach a sermon and twist God’s Word, (which of course she will not be disciplined for, but I will be called a “hater” for pointing out that what’s she done is sinful and wrong).”

We here at ChurchWatch are saddened to see this young woman, (who is obviously a talented communicator), believe she is called of God to preach a false message that brings no hope. A false message that burdens its hearers with Law, Law, Law and no gospel. All this happening under the watch of Phil Pringle (and yes, he has told the church he watches online whenever possible). A hireling who, rather than take up the task of preaching faithfully through the sound text of scripture week by week as a faithful shepherd would do, allows the “summer Session” attendees be exposed to a message that brings “death”, not LIFE as found in Christ and His Word faithfully preached.

A hireling who draws disciples after himself.

“Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore be alert.” Acts 20:28-31 

Dr. Paul Kretzmann in his Popular Commentary noted:

[Paul] knew that after his departure from them, in a future which was not greatly distant, there would enter into the flock from without grievous, ravening, ferocious wolves, false teachers that would have no mercy on the flock, but would use every means to disrupt the congregation, to murder the souls by trying to persuade them to accept false doctrine. And in addition there would be factionists from within, out of their own membership, men that would arise…with a doctrine full of perverse and antichristian matter, with the intention of drawing away those that were already Christians, the latter thereby becoming guilty of apostasy from the truth and from the true Church of Christ. These two dangers looming up before them, the elders of Ephesus should watch, be on their guard, exert constant vigilance.” [Source] 

Click on the link below to listen to the FFTF Podcast, “What Noise Will you Make in 2016?”

What Noise Will You Make in 2016?

PROGRAM SEGMENTS:

00:12:14 – Lou Engle The Call Azusa Now
00:34:15 – Tammy Southerland Fire House Prayer and Revival Hub Launch
00:39:37 – Tim Philip Believing is Seeing
00:57:34 – Bobby Schuller Interviews Brian Houston
01:16:39 – Sermon Review: What Noise Will You Make in 2016? by Caley Korocz of C3 Sydney

Source: Chris Rosebrough, What Noise Will You Make in 2016?, Pirate Christian Radio, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/1/what-noise-will-you-make-in-2016, Published 25/01/2016. (Accessed 29/01/2016.)

Why Pat Mesiti is still a Hillsong/C3 “Pastor” Pat Mesiti (sermon review included)

18 Monday Jan 2016

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People have started asking the question: “Is Pat Mesiti is still a pastor at either Hillsong or C3?” (Due to his recent arrest after beating his wife.) Even though Pat Mesiti was exposed in a scandal that expelled him from his position at Hillsong, evidence shows he is STILL considered a pastor in the Hillsong and C3 movements.

The proof of this is the fact he is still able to travel between Hillsong & C3 churches AND apparently speak in a pastoral context from their pulpits, (remember, the official role of a church pastor is to teach/preach from the pulpit). AND we are yet to hear an official statement denying that Pat Mesiti is a Hillsong or C3 pastor.

As we’ve written earlier,

“Just like Phil Pringle and Brian Houston, Mesiti wanted to be seen as a motivational speaker. He talks about how Hillsong and C3 have helped make him into someone who wants to make him a better pastor and business man in “evangelism, crusades” and “business functions”. Another article also informed us how Brian Houston was also there to guide, counsel and support Pat Mesiti.”

HILLSONG “PASTOR” PAT MESITI

You can read our article here, covering Pat Mesiti preaching at Hillsong London in 2010.

Money-Making Mesiti ‘Ministering’ At Hillsong London In 2010…

We also know that Senior Pastor Joel A’Bell from Hillsong , as early as 2010, defended “Pastor” Pat Mesiti from critics.

 

On the 13th of October 2010, Joel A’Bell posted this tweet, which came through on his FaceBook wall,

A genuine leader will never exploit your emotions or your pocketbook. Matt 7:16 MSG.

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In reality, the Message is NOT a valid translation of the bible. It’s a paraphrase that is filled with pagan and new age references. Nevertheless, Eugene Peterson did capture  the nature of today’s false teachers rather well –  they DO “exploit the wallet”. This particular scripture attracted Hillsong critic Steve West and others to protest the fact that Hillsong pastor Pat Mesiti DOES exploit Hillsong member’s emotions and their “pocketbook”.

Steve West was the first to respond,

And thus will likely not have offerings at every meeting, conference, cell group and college chapel service.

This led into questions as to why Hillsong’s disgraced pastor Pat Mesiti was acknowledged as a pastor at Hillsong London on Joel A’Bell’s wall. Many people, including Hillsong attendees, were surprised he was reinstated at all and protested other sins of Mesiti to Joel. By this stage, Mesiti was rapidly earning the reputation, world-wide, as an international con-artist from 2009 onwards, with his ongoing endorsement of men renowned for their dubious integrity.

The fact that Mesiti endorsed notorious con-artist “AussieRob” did not help strengthen his reputation as a con-artist. Read more here:

Aussie Rob – Lifestyle trader
LifestyleTrader.com.au (Aussie Rob) Review

This did not stop Joel A’Bell from defending AND endorsing the apparently restored Hillsong “Pastor” Pat Mesiti from speaking at Hillsong London.

Joel Abell Quote

So why was Hillsong allowing Pat Mesiti to speak at Hillsong London – in spite of critics pointing out how Mesiti fulfilled the scripture that Joel A’Bell put up on his FaceBook wall? In fact, this snippet of Pat Mesiti in 2009 was put up in the conversation on Joel Abell’s wall back in 2010:

Source: By speakercoach, Pat Mesiti Millionaire Mindset reveals the best tips on public speaking and presentation skills, YouTube, https://youtu.be/fldjYzfLUxw, Uploaded 16/04/2009. (Accessed 18/01/2016.)

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In spite of the evidence put up by these critics, Senior Hillsong pastor, Joel A’Bell, defended Pat Mesiti speaking at Hillsong London in 2010 in his comment section:

“I knew Pat before, during and after his moral failure. Those who don’t know him should keep their comments in closer circles or to themselves. I find these public comments about Pat to be unloving. He is well on track in his restoration…”

“I said to keep it close (or) to your self. They could put their unrelated issues on their own wall. I wouldn’t use your wall to push my pet topics. Would make more sense if I had of posted something about Pat but this just screems of immaturity…”

Throughout this entire conversation, Joel A’Bell did NOT refute the assumption that Pat Mesiti was a Hillsong pastor. His continual defense of Pat Mesiti speaking at Hillsong London only confirmed the fact that Pat Mesiti was still a Hillsong Pastor (or affiliated with Hillsong’s leadership). Furthermore, he defended Pat Mesiti as one of their own.

It is clear that Hillsong, as an organization, was NOT acting in ignorance but validating and treating Pat Mesiti as a RESTORED pastor in their movement. Otherwise, why have him speak as a pastor at Hillsong London?

We note in 2014, Mesiti’s “loyal friend,” Brian Houston said:

“Literally, it didn’t only cost him his ministry, it cost him his marriage, it cost him his home, he lost his home, it cost him everything. The only thing he had was loyal friends and perhaps that’s the greatest thing we can have anyway, is loyal friends.

And there were people who stuck with him, people who I know here in our congregation who stuck with him. I was talking with him yesterday on the phone, actually text messages, same thing these days, and ahhh he was telling me that after years of rebuilding his life, just constantly rebuilding his life that the house he lost that his sin, his shame had cost him, he is on the edge of perhaps buying back.” [Source]

Brian has made it clear. Mesiti is still alive and well as a “restored” Hillsong pastor, he still has close relations with Brian Houston. In fact, Brian Houston used Pat Mesiti an example in this sermon of how one can be restored. Restored into what?

C3 “PASTOR” PAT MESITI:

We’ve also covered how C3 “Pastor” Mesiti spoke at C3 RealMen’s Conference and had no problem speaking on C3’s Positive Hits:

C3 Continues To Endorse Money-Magnet Mesiti

But our main focus is to draw your attention to Pat Mesiti preaching at C3 Church in 2013:

Source: By c3churchtv, C3 Online – 20/10/2013 | Pat Mesiti – The Joseph Generation, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdgdrEMoAK0, Uploaded 21/10/2013. (Accessed 11/08/2014.)

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In this specific sermon, not only is what Pat Mesiti saying blasphemous, he also refers to his involvement with Hillsong.

In the sermon above, Mesiti says,

“I said that at Hillsong London at the Freddie Mercury theatre.”

So something tells us Mesiti has not been broadcasting his other Hillsong “pastoral” engagements. Furthermore he states (present tense),

“I have a preacher on every single day… This year I’ve invited Bob Harrison and Pastor Phil Pringle to be our chaplains. This is where we raise the million dollars for missions… On here is Brian Houston. On here are my spiritual and business mentors.”

What is interesting about the sermon above, as Chris Rosebrough reviews it on his program ‘Fighting for the Faith‘, he clearly exposes the prosperity cult theology (and predatory nature) that Mesiti appears to have fine-tuned from his association with long term “pastoral” friends and mentors, Phil Pringle and Brian Houston.

It’s well worth listening to the sermon review to prove that this man is STILL used as an example to follow by Brian Houston. And because his life is a “success story”, one can assume that’s what qualifies people like Pat Mesiti to be pastors in the C3 and Hillsong prosperity cults.

Hee Haw

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PROGRAM SEGMENTS:

• Ed Young’s Hee Haw Sermon
• Bishop Tudor Bismark’s The Big Fish Anointing
• Jim Bakker’s Prophecy Fear Mongering For Dollars
• Sermon Review: The Joseph Generation by Pat Mesiti

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Hee Haw, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2015/5/hee-haw, Published 01/05/2015. (Accessed 06/01/2015.)

Clearly there is NOTHING regenerate or “restored” in Pat Mesiti’s life. The signs were there even before he was charged with assaulting his wife. So why on earth would Hillsong/C3 hold onto him? Why would Hillsong and C3 have him (unbiblically) re-instated as a pastor when there are so many others who could easily replace him?

There has to be more to this than meets the eye.

NOTE: SCREEN GRAB TAKEN ON 18/01/2016.

Chris Rosebrough covers Kong Hee’s verdict… and Phil Pringle’s involvement.

26 Monday Oct 2015

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“For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest, nor is anything secret that will not be known and come to light.” – Luke 8:17

This scripture is very applicable to the charges against Kong Hee and cohorts.

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Targeted: Phil Pringle and his immoral involvement with the Kong Hee scandal. To this date, he has not told his congregation why Kong Hee was in trial and to this day, parades Kong Hee’s innocence.

Before the “Sermon review”, Chris Rosebrough decided to play audio segments of Phil Pringle. He has this to say about Phil Pringle before reviewing him, in light of the verdict.

“Now what we’re going to be listening to are two bits of audio from videos put out by, well Phil Pringle, who I think has a LOT to do- a LOT to do behind the scenes regarding Kong Hee and Sun Ho’s Crossover project- and was one of the men who was directly coaching and, um – leading, (you know, casting vision for Kong Hee).

And that is Phil Pringle of C3. And so these two have a tight friendship. And like I said, a few years back at the Presence Conference, one of the things that Kong Hee said was that it was Phil Pringle who got him into this mess. And I don’t think that was a slip. I think that was absolutely the truth.” 24:25

Last year we published a two part series from a C3 Church insider on Phil Pringle’s involvement with Kong Hee, Luke 8:17 being the scripture reference for the heading.

“For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest…” (Part 1)
“For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest…” (Part 2)

You might want to read those articles before listening to Chris Rosebrough’s review. His [Good] “Sermon Review” is by Dr. Paul Choo, who has proven to be a faithful shepherd in Singapore, exposing the prosperity wolf pack consisting of David Yonngi Cho, Kong Hee, Joseph Prince and so on.

This is another very important episode to tune into:

The Verdict On Kong Hee

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Program segments:

00:00:00 The Verdict on Kong Hee
00:44:47 Sermon Review: Prosperity Gospel by Dr. Paul Choo

Source: Chris Rosebrough, The Verdict On Kong Hee, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2015/10/the-verdict-on-kong-hee.html, Published 23/10/2015. (Accessed 24/10/2015.)

Rosebrough exposes the Pringles as whacky false prophets

28 Tuesday Jul 2015

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Chris Rosebrough from Fighting for the Faith has done the hard work in examining the false prophecies of Phil Pringle against the scriptures and tests to see if these prophecies have come to pass. Some of this audio was of Kong Hee speaking how Phil Pringle prophesied over him owning SunTec Convention Center.

He also reviews Chris Pringle’s sermon ‘Winter is Over’ and exposes her as a false teacher and prophet. He points out how she lies by omission, giving the audience the impression that she and her husband were struggling financially. However, as we have previously covered on C3 Church Watch, Chris Pringle fails to leave out key details how much they bought their property for.

Patricia King Claims She Averted WWIII

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Program segments:

• Patricia King Claims She Averted WWIII • Mike Bickle’s False Prophetic Claims • Phil Pringle’s False Prophetic Claims • Sermon Review: Winter is Over by Chris Pringle of C3

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Patricia King Claims She Averted WWIII, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2015/03/patricia-king-claims-she-averted-wwiii.html, Published 12/03/2015. (Accessed 28/07/2015.)

Rosebrough reviews Pringle’s infomercial sermon: Is Phil Pringle your Ezekiel’s Angel?

09 Monday Mar 2015

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Chris Rosebrough reviews another sermon from Phil Pringle of Christian City Church (C3 Church). What’s breath-taking  about this review was how Phil Pringle took one biblical text and used it as an infomercial for his Presence Conference. And of even greater concern, we have Phil Pringle sharing his “angelic experiences” and what he heard God say about Phil Pringle’s heavenly-appointed Presence Conference. The gross manipulation did not stop there. Chris Rosebrough pointed out this creepy comment made by Phil Pringle:

Angel Pringle“And I share that with you because you got- you need to know that when we read the Bible – like just what we read- that was an angel leading Ezekiel deeper and deeper.

And there are angels who want to take you and lead you deeper and deeper. And if we can follow that- And if you can think of me maybe – just now – as that angel, measuring out 1500 metres for you to walk to get knee deep and then another 1500 – c’mon! Let’s go a little deeper.

C’mon! Let’s go all the way – for your sake. We’re not going to lead you into things that’ll hurt ya – that are bad for ya or that kind of thing. We only have your best interest and the Kingdom of God in our hearts. And one thing that we are desperate for is not just for every individual here to get blessed but our whole church to be blessed. And our whole movement around the world – C3 Global – to get touched and empowered for a whole new day, to go to a whole new level in Jesus’ name.“

Source: Phil Pringle, Awakening 2, My C3 Church, “Awakening – Part 2” – Phil Pringle, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/awakening-%E2%80%93-part-2-phil-pringle, 60:50-61:45, 14/04/2013 PM.

Click the link below to hear the sermon review at 1:10:45 mark….

Awakening

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Program segments:

• Amanda Wells’ Prophetic “Insight” • Robert Hotchkin Preaches At Patricia Kings “Church” • Steve Munsey Buttresses Benny Hinn’s “Healing” Ministry • Sermon Review: Awakening 2 by Phil Pringle of C3

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2015/02/awakening.html, 17/02/2015. (Accessed 09/03/2015.)

Mark Kelsey Gets An “I’m An Idiot” Revelation?

10 Sunday Feb 2013

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Pastor Nicholas Gervase Charmley and Chris Rosebrough weigh in on a bizarre sermon by Mark Kelsey. The sermon is titled, “The “I’m an Idiot” Revelation”.

In the past, Phil Pringle has stressed in leadership gatherings that he doesn’t want intellectual people in his movement. (He calls them “intellectual idiots”.)

Instead, Phil Pringle wants passionate people in his movement who can be shamed into worship, conform to his emotionally manipulated environments and groomed through crowd control methods. Read and watch the article below:

Pringle Teaches How To Control & Fleece People

Idiocy In High Places?

If you browse the articles on C3 Church Watch, you will be quick to discover how these emotionally controlled environments and dishonest giving sermons trick people into thinking they are giving money to God.

With the above information in mind, Mark Kelsey in the below sermon further convinces people that they should get the idiot revelation to keep them going to C3 church. You can hear Chris Rosebrough review this sermon by Mark Kelsey here:

NOVEMBER 16, 2012

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• Stylish Adult Baptism
• Creflo Dollar and Facebook Curses
• Franklin Graham Shocked by Cult Reference to Mormonism on BGEA Site
• Sermon Review The “I’m an Idiot” Revelation by Mark Kelsey, C3, Oxford Falls, Australia

Source: CREFLO DOLLAR AND FACEBOOK CURSES, Fighting For The Faith, http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2012/11/creflo-dollar-and-facebook-curses.html, 16/02/2012. (Accessed 02/02/2013.)

To show how absurd the theological teachings are of Mark Kelsey Mark said this:

“God’s aim for you and I is the glory of God. It’s not salvation. His aim for you is not salvation. Most Christians do not understand this. God’s aim for you is not salvation. Salvation is a means to an end. His aim for you is to restore you to His original intention, for you. He has an image of you that is so glorious. So His aim is that, ok. So there’s the aim: the glorious version of you. The ‘I’m no longer an idiot’ version of you.” – Mark Kelsey, Mark Kelsey – The I’m An Idiot! Revelation (Part 3 of 4), 3:15, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5-cHpfqTLQ, Uploaded by changefilm on Nov 28, 2008. (Accessed 16/11/2012.)

Gervase Charmley had this to say about Mark Kelsey’s comment:

“It has been said that “A difference that makes no difference is no difference at all”, and frankly it seems to me that is what is going on here. The problem seems to be that he has some idea of what “salvation” is that comes short of the fullness of it, and so he can say in effect “God’s aim for us as Christians is not salvation, but salvation”. Which makes no sense. It’s incoherent, that’s my thought on this.” – G.N. Charmley, 15/11/2012.

You can watch the original sermon here on youtube.




NOTE: SCREEN GRABS WERE TAKEN ON THE 16/11/2012.

Realmen? | Sermon Review: “The Phases of a Dream” by ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner of WoF FWC [Part 3/3]

13 Monday Aug 2012

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Here is Part 3 of my next review on the C3 Church movement.

The theme of this review is “How to Read the Bible”. I review ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner’s sermon delivered at C3 Church Oxford Falls on Sunday 29/07/2012 (6pm Service). In order to emphatically make the point, I put every Scripture he quotes (or at least the ones I could recognize) back into context, demonstrating that he twists EVERY SINGLE verse. That is NOT how you read or teach the Bible.

The ‘Bishop’ also spoke at this year’s Realmen Conference held at Oxford Falls (July 27-28). I find it hard to image how we are raising up godly men of character and integrity by teaching them to twist and mangle God’s word.

Please share this video with anyone you know who attends a C3 Church affiliated with Phil Pringle or Dale Bronner, especially if they attended this year’s Realmen Conference (2012).

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Realmen? | Sermon Review: “The Phases of a Dream” by ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner of WoF FWC [Part 2/3]

10 Friday Aug 2012

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Here is Part 2 of my next review on the C3 Church movement. This particular review took much longer than I anticipated (nearly 3hrs!) and so I have broken it up into three parts which I will upload separately.

The theme of this review is “How to Read the Bible”. I review ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner’s sermon delivered at C3 Church Oxford Falls on Sunday 29/07/2012 (6pm Service). In order to emphatically make the point, I put every Scripture he quotes (or at least the ones I could recognize) back into context, demonstrating that he twists EVERY SINGLE verse. That is NOT how you read or teach the Bible.

The ‘Bishop’ also spoke at this year’s Realmen Conference held at Oxford Falls (July 27-28). I find it hard to image how we are raising up godly men of character and integrity by teaching them to twist and mangle God’s word.

I will have Part 3 up soon so stay tuned.

Please share this video with anyone you know who attends a C3 Church affiliated with Phil Pringle or Dale Bronner, especially if they attended this year’s Realmen Conference (2012).

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Realmen? | Sermon Review: “The Phases of a Dream” by ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner of WoF FWC [Part 1/3]

Realmen? | Sermon Review: “The Phases of a Dream” by ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner of WoF FWC [Part 3/3]

Realmen? | Sermon Review: “The Phases of a Dream” by ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner of WoF FWC [Part 1/3]

07 Tuesday Aug 2012

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Here is Part 1 of my next review on the C3 Church movement. This particular review took much longer than I anticipated (nearly 3hrs!) and so I have broken it up into three parts which I will upload separately.

The theme of this review is “How to Read the Bible”. I review ‘Bishop’ Dale Bronner’s sermon delivered at C3 Church Oxford Falls on Sunday 29/07/2012 (6pm Service). In order to emphatically make the point, I put every Scripture he quotes (or at least the ones I could recognize) back into context, demonstrating that he twists EVERY SINGLE verse. That is NOT how you read or teach the Bible.

The ‘Bishop’ also spoke at this year’s Realmen Conference held at Oxford Falls (July 27-28). I find it hard to image how we are raising up godly men of character and integrity by teaching them to twist and mangle God’s word.

I will have Parts 2 & 3 up soon so stay tuned.

Please share this video with anyone you know who attends a C3 Church affiliated with Phil Pringle or Dale Bronner, especially if they attended this year’s Realmen Conference (2012).

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Johann Tetzel Eat Your Heart Out | Andrew Kubala tramples on the blood of Christ at Presence 2012

28 Saturday Jul 2012

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Credit goes to C3CW for getting me access to the footage from Presence Conference 2012. Cheers.

[I apologise in advance for the occasional skipping. Its a little bit of a rough edit, but everything’s there.]

Here is my next review on the C3 Church movement. The theme of this review is ‘the price of a human soul’. I review Andrew Kubala’s statements at Presence Conference 2012, namely, that we can sow a financial ‘seed’ offering for the salvation of our loved ones. I point out that no amount of money can buy salvation, and that the redemptive price of a human soul is the blood of Jesus Christ ALONE shed on the cross. It is ONLY by Christ’s sacrifice that sinners are saved; this one offering accomplished salvation once for all and is never to be repeated.

Please share this video with anyone you know who attends a C3 Church affiliated with Phil Pringle or Andrew Kubala, especially if they attended this year’s Presence Conference 2012 (April 10-13, Darling Harbour Convention Centre, Sydney)