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“Prophet for Profit” Phil Pringle Enticing the CHC “Foolish Virgins”?

27 Friday Jun 2014

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The scriptures teach us Jesus giving this parable (emphasis ours):

“Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’

Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

The point of Jesus’ parable of the Kingdom is very simple: Be ready! Keep the faith. “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.” Phil Pringle thinks likewise. This article will be examining how CHC fails to discern Phil Pringle’s dubious teaching. The title of the below article ‘Give us oil in our lamps’ is fortunately named, capturing the absolute foolishness of the reporter and CHC members that were duped by Phil Pringle’s teaching.

CityNews boldly reported that CHC knows Phil Pringle, “for wearing many hats, and wearing them well”, being “a talented artist and painter”, “inspiring preacher and teacher“, “a powerful prophet“, “a good friend to CHC” and for “being a conduit of God’s anointing“.

A true prophet cannot teach false doctrine. A true preacher and teacher cannot teach false teaching, especially if they are claiming they are a “conduit of God’s anointing”. That would be dangerous.

CityNews states that Phil Pringle shared a “revelatory offering message about how God requires from each giver a specific offering, and nothing else will atone for it” and then got “to the main purpose of his visit to CHC that weekend, to impart a fresh touch of God, the fresh oil of the anointing of the Holy Spirit”. CityNews further reports Phil Pringle saying, “I have been burdened for these meetings over the past week […] The fact is, God wants to empower every one of us. I am believing God, that He will touch you, empower you, fill you with the fresh oil of the Holy Spirit!”

No, Phil. We have already been given the oil of the anointing and the faith once and for all delivered to the saints. What are you selling CHC?

“Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge. I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that he made to us—eternal life.

I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.” 1 John 2:18-27

“Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.” Jude 1:3

John stresses that “it is the last hour”. Therefore, because we have been anointed by the Holy One “from the beginning”, we must abide in the faith that God has once for all delivered to the saints. As Jesus explained in his endtime parables that included the virgin parable,

“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.“

CityNews reports, “The five foolish virgins did not prepare enough oil in their lamps in case the bridegroom was delayed, and when he was delayed, they had no oil to light their lamps.” So why is Pringle encouraging people to come to him to get the oil for their lives? The parable said that the wise already had enough oil. It was the foolish that asked and then were told to go to the “dealers” to get more oil. They had to buy the oil. 

Who is the dealer in this parable? It appears that Phil Pringle is the one trying to “make merchandise” out of the foolish virgins in the name of God. It was the foolish virgins that went on the journey back and forth from the dealer. Phil Pringle even said the fresh oil he gave, “is something to take back with you, to nurture for the journey ahead”. Is he the one John and Jude were warning the wise virgins (his disciples) against? What does anyone gain from buying oil from a false anointing “conduit” to find that the doors are closed?

CityNews published this article back in November 2010 and informed their readers that Phil Pringle, “in his second weekend with CHC” operated from his new role “as advisory pastor”. Any Christian should be able to stand faithful and ready on God’s Word so when Christ returns, they will be allowed entry. So why did CHC parade their new Advisory Pastor Phil Pringle and his message? At best Phil Pringle distracted CHC members from standing steadfast on the faith once and for all delivered to the saints.

Give Us Oil In Our Lamps

The first anointing service by advisory pastor Phil Pringle ushers in a refreshing touch from God.

Give Us Oil In Our LampsCity Harvest Church’s advisory pastor, Phil Pringle, is known in CHC for wearing many hats, and wearing them well. Many know him as a talented artist and painter, a consummate and entertaining storyteller, an inspiring preacher and teacher, a powerful prophet, and a good friend to CHC. But during the services over the weekend of Nov. 6 to 7, he revealed another aspect of his ministry: being a conduit of God’s anointing.

EMPOWERED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT

Well aware that the services that weekend was going to be different from what the church was used to from Pringle, the congregation was abuzz with anticipation and expectation right from the first service of the weekend at the Jurong West Street 91 premises. Pringle opened his time at the first service with an exuberant proclamation. “You are excited! God is excited, the Holy Spirit is excited, and Jesus is excited! The only person I know who is not excited today is the devil!” Pringle declared amidst a thunderous clap offering to God, setting the stage for the things to come.

In his second weekend with CHC in his new capacity as advisory pastor, Pringle said, “This service is going to be slightly different.” After sharing a revelatory offering message about how God requires from each giver a specific offering, and nothing else will atone for it, and how the church must learn to chase away the “vultures” that gather around the offerings out of Genesis 15, Pringle wasted no time in getting to the main purpose of his visit to CHC that weekend, to impart a fresh touch of God, the fresh oil of the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

“I have been burdened for these meetings over the past week,” Pringle shared with the Sunday morning crowd. “The fact is, God wants to empower every one of us. I am believing God, that He will touch you, empower you, fill you with the fresh oil of the Holy Spirit!”

Speaking out of Matthew 25, Pringle shared a sobering message about the parable of the 10 virgins. The five foolish virgins failed in their duty to the bridegroom, in honoring him and lighting up his way, and were closed off from his house. “The Bible says that out of the 10 virgins, five were foolish, and five were wise. The five foolish virgins did not prepare enough oil in their lamps in case the bridegroom was delayed, and when he was delayed, they had no oil to light their lamps.”

Pringle declared, “The Christian life is not hard—it is impossible! We cannot do the things that Jesus has asked us to do, unless we have the oil of the Holy Spirit!” He taught that, too often, we tend to substitute information for impartation, and miss out on the wave of God’s revival. Just like how a phone works, things such as contacts and applications in the phone are worthless unless there is power, and it is plugged into a source of power. Similarly, “the things in the kingdom of God need replenishing and recharging,” Pringle declared.

Pringle then exhorted the church, in this time of trial and testing, to face the future with the power of the Holy Spirit. Just as in the Word of God to Zerubbabel spoken through Zechariah, it is not by might or by power, but by the power of the Holy Spirit, Pringle shared, that “we can speak to the mountains in our lives.”

It was time, then, for the church to receive the new oil of the Holy Spirit, to make it through difficulties in life. Drawing a parallel with the 10 virgins’ lamps and the lives of the believers, Pringle said, “We need to have enough oil to go the distance. When the oil dries up, we start burning our wicks, which is relying on our own strength. That is why people get ‘burned out’.”

He then used King David in the Bible as an example, of how with greater responsibility came the need for the constant refilling of the oil of the Holy Spirit. David had three immense steps to take before reaching a different level in his life­—going before Saul who wanted to kill him, becoming the king of Judah, then finally becoming the king of Israel. “He had to be equipped and equal to each level of challenge to overcome it, through the anointing of God.”Give Us Oil In Our Lamps

As a reminder to the church, Pringle said, “People tend to not notice, that waiting takes up as much oil as working. The five foolish virgins ran out of oil while they were waiting for the bridegroom, and did not have enough left to do their jobs.” Pointing out how the door was shut to the five foolish virgins, Pringle noted, “The oil of God in our lives keeps us ready for the opportunities that God has for us.”

PREPARING FOR GREATER OPPORTUNITIES

Finally, he shared why the other five virgins did not share the oil with their peers. “There are some things that you can’t get from someone else; you have to get it from God yourself, by reaching out and seeking God.” On that note, Pringle moved into a powerful time of ministry, which saw words of prophecy being spoken over various people, and the laying of hands on the congregation. People cleared out of their seats, and streamed to the altar area. A mighty move of God swept through the services as wave after wave of people were ministered to.

Toward the end of the service, Pringle emphasized, “This is not just an experience in the front, but this is something to take back with you, to nurture for the journey ahead.” With such an evident working and presence of God, Pringle issued a salvation and re-dedication altar call which saw people streaming to the front of the stage, giving their lives to Jesus, giving a fitting end to an awesome time of being in the presence of God.

“When Pastor Phil prayed for us, I felt a very strong presence of God, reminiscent of an Asia Conference session!” Alexander Liu, 29, a property executive, shared enthusiastically. Josiah Ang, 19, who had just returned from his National Service stint in Australia, said, “I feel that it is a fresh touch from God for me, especially after being away for over a month. We should continue to seek the filling of the Holy Spirit to keep us burning.”

Vera Li Zeng Ying, a 16-year-old student from Chong Boon Secondary School echoed Ang’s sentiments. “This is my first time experiencing an anointing service, but it was more than just a mere experience. I felt that this is a new start in my life. The moment Pastor Phil prayed for me, I felt God release all my fears and struggles. It is His Spirit that makes me believe I can overcome every obstacle!”

Source: By Jeremy Chua, CityNews, Give Us Oil In Our Lamps, http://www.citynews.sg/2010/11/give-us-oil-in-our-lamps/, 27/06/2014. (Accessed 27/06/2014.)

Phil Pringle: CHC’s Prophet Of God

30 Thursday May 2013

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Phil Pringle is not only the Advisory Prophet of CHC. Phil Pringle is glorified as a prophet. Now CHC should review their prophet after reviewing a CityNews article we recently discovered.

In 2008, CityNews published an article that revealed a few interesting things about Phil Pringle’s prophetic office and how he prophesies.

  • When Pringle declared that “this was “God’s hour”” and when the band switched to a “a resounding fast-beat ministry song that intensified the spiritual atmosphere“, CityNews saw that this was an indication for Phil Pringle “to move in the prophetic office as led by the Holy Spirit”.

Observe the method. From here on in, Pringle is moving in the prophetic. This means God is speaking through Pringle.

  • CityNews reported a prophecy given by Phil Pringle:

“Pringle begin by prophesying of the global “shifts in power”, with the political and economic spheres of influence gravitating towards the Asian giants of India and China. Nations that had been “maligned and abused” by greater powers will be raised up by God to have a global voice and the power to shape international affairs, as a demonstration of His sovereign control over the world.”

We know Phil Pringle is a false prophet. We’re waiting for these prophecies to not come true.

  • Now “moving in the prophetic”, CityNews records Pringle doing the following,

“Pringle also encouraged the people to stand boldly with Kong Hee as God raised him up to walk in the “corridors of power” in the governments and businesses of Asia, advising decision-makers and leaders in the ‘3rd Space’ of society. This was in anticipation of the adverse challenges that will arise as this was divinely orchestrated.”

Would you not regard this as a false prophecy?

  • CityNews reports Pringle prophesying health and wealth over senior ministers.

“The session reached its apex as Pringle began to call the senior ministers of churches in the above-mentioned nations to come to the stage, prophesying over several of them. Prophecies would range from financial increase, anointing for healing and miracles, the ability to teach the Word of God effectively in bible schools, and to build spirit-empowered churches in the respective cities and countries they come from.”

  • Take note that City News informs it’s readers that Phil Pringle taught on the “power of confession”. The doctrine of “power of confession” is a word of faith heresy and is not supported biblically.

“In the last 10 minutes, Pringle preached briefly from Ezekiel on the power of confession in creating the conditions of one’s world…”

Here is the City News Article,

Asia Conference

Session 6: A Prophetic Call to the Nations of Asia

Updated on 21 November 2008 at 3:05 pm
By Enoch Seet

SINGAPORE, 21 NOVEMBER 2008 — SESSION 6 OF the Asia Conference saw Phil Pringle continue his ministry in the Spirit, focusing on China and the Middle East.

Beginning with the praise song ‘Help Me’ by the C3 Band, Pringle took the stage with a rousing declaration that this was “God’s hour” and the band switching to a resounding fast-beat ministry song that intensified the spiritual atmosphere in Hall 8. Clearly, it was an indication of his intention to move in the prophetic office as led by the Holy Spirit.

Putting aside his sermon that he had crafted in hours of “solitude and silence”, Pringle begin by prophesying of the global “shifts in power”, with the political and economic spheres of influence gravitating towards the Asian giants of India and China. Nations that had been “maligned and abused” by greater powers will be raised up by God to have a global voice and the power to shape international affairs, as a demonstration of His sovereign control over the world.

Pringle also encouraged the people to stand boldly with Kong Hee as God raised him up to walk in the “corridors of power” in the governments and businesses of Asia, advising decision-makers and leaders in the ‘3rd Space’ of society. This was in anticipation of the adverse challenges that will arise as this was divinely orchestrated.

The session reached its apex as Pringle began to call the senior ministers of churches in the above-mentioned nations to come to the stage, prophesying over several of them. Prophecies would range from financial increase, anointing for healing and miracles, the ability to teach the Word of God effectively in bible schools, and to build spirit-empowered churches in the respective cities and countries they come from.

Ultimately, the chief aim of this prophetic session that lasted 50 minutes was the call of God among the delegates to fulfill His desire of strengthening the weak and building His church.A notable highlight was when Pringle prayed and spoke into the lives of two youths, a 20 year-old security personnel from City Harvest Church and a 24 year-old Chinese national, using them to illustrate “generational reconciliation’. This is essentially about the senior leaders and elders giving opportunities to youth leaders to actualize their potential in the ministry, empowering them to rise and take the baton of leadership in growing the Kingdom of God.

In the last 10 minutes, Pringle preached briefly from Ezekiel on the power of confession in creating the conditions of one’s world, keeping the focus of what one is called for and remembering the revelation of one’s identity in God. These principles he said, stemmed forth from a life that was Jesus-centered, evidenced through time given in prayer and solitude in God’s presence, which was the penultimate key in bringing one into his or her fullest destiny.

This session would certainly be remembered by all who attended for its impact in their individual lives and the collective significance it will have in transforming the spiritual, political and socio-economic climate of Asia.

Source: By Enoch Seet, City News, Asia Conference, Session 6: A Prophetic Call to the Nations of Asia, http://www.citynews.sg/2008/11/a-prophetic-call-to-the-nations-of-asia/, 21/11/2008. (Accessed 30/05/2013.)

City News Propaganda: Pringle Associates Poisonous Critics To Early Church Persecutors & Murderous Radical Extremists?

24 Friday May 2013

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COMMENTARY OF CITY NEWS INTERVIEW WITH PRINGLE

City News has published an interesting interview with Phil Pringle. We would like viewers to compare the below interview with Pringle with an older article they wrote on Phil Pringle titled ‘Close Friend’ back in 2011.

In this article:

  • It appears Phil Pringle is attempting to distance himself from being Kong Hee’s oversight. We know for a fact that what Phil Pringle is saying below is not true. If you read the above article, Phil Pringle stated in 2011 that his prophetic office is part of the relationship he has with Kong Hee. It is clear that Pringle prides himself of being Kong Hee’s prophetic oversight.

“In the early years, I would have guided [Kong] and been something like a mentor to him, and I would still be that now, but only by his initiative, not mine.”

However, Phil Pringle may be wanting to distance himself now that the case is underway.

  • While promoting sex, money, power and murder in her music video clips, Sun Ho is seen by Phil Pringle as “essential to the core, the fabric and the culture of” of CHC. He also says Sun is “key to the future of City Harvest Church”. May we remind readers of Sun Ho’s legacy of raunchy entertainment. While Pringle says that Sun Ho is the “fabric” and the “culture” of City Harvest Church, she seems to lose her fabric and core Christian values to her secular music career.
  • Asking how Phil Pringle deals with his online critics, Phil Pringle stated that he doesn’t “even bother reading it”. Obviously, critics only give Pringle credibility in his own eyes since he says he’s “not sure [he’s] really being effective if [he hasn’t] got critics”. And how his response biblical in any way, shape or form? Isn’t Pringle demonstrating he lives in both denial and delusion?
  • On the same subject, Pringle associates critics to radical Arabic communities that murder Christians. Phil Pringle or Kong Hee’s critics could be either Christian or non-Christian. They could be local authority figures like parents, teachers, lawyers, judges or the average person who don’t want friends or family members to go to CHC. To associate these people with murderous, radical Muslim extremists is slanderous, unloving and divisive. 

Ask yourself this question: What is doing more damage to Christianity in the City Harvest Church scandal? Who is adding persecution to the church? False teachers like Phil Pringle and Kong Hee or ‘critics’?

Think about the news group Al Jazeera that spread the news about the Kong Hee scandal through the Arab World. Did ‘critics’ get a mention? Were ‘critics’ reported in the CHC scandal and linked to spreading corruption, persecution and murders in Sinapore? Or was Al Jazeera linking the CHC scandal to false teachers like Kong Hee or Phil Pringle?

CHC Scandal Reported To Arabic Communities Through Al Jazeera

If anything, wouldn’t Phil Pringle and Kong Hee be furthering the hatred, persecution and murder of Christians in Arabic countries due to Al Jazeera reporting the CHC scandal both ‘Pastors’ are involved in? We are stunned Phil Pringle would stoop so low to associate his critics with murderous radical extremists. Doesn’t this sound like cult-like propaganda to encourage City Harvest Church members to shun critics?

CITY NEWS PROPAGANDA

Here is the article from City News,

An Interview With Phil Pringle: CHC Has A Future Of Incredible Blessing

Updated on 22 May 2013 at 8:13 am
By Theresa Tan

City Harvest Church’s advisory pastor Phil Pringle talks about the secret power of giving thanks, his deep friendship with Kong Hee and the future of CHC.

An Interview With Phil Pringle: CHC Has A Future Of Incredible Blessing

CN PHOTOS: Michael Chan.

Phil Pringle, senior minister of C3 Church in Sydney, Australia and the president of the C3 Church International, a global movement of over 240 churches, is in Singapore to conduct two weekend services back to back at CHC. He is here to support and encourage the church while CHC’s senior pastor Kong Hee and five other church leaders go through the first week of the trial against them for allegedly misusing church funds.

In this interview Pringle shares withCity News how his friendship with Kong Hee began, how giving thanks is a secret weapon, and he exhorts the congregation to see beyond the trials of the present as a purchase for a future that would be a blessing to the nations.

You taught us about giving thanks yesterday. But how do you give thanks when things are really hard, when you feel betrayed or when you feel someone’s done you a great wrong?

I think the sacrifice of praise—which the Bible calls thanksgiving, giving thanks under difficult circumstances—is the best antidote to a bad attitude, because you’re grateful to God not just in the circumstance but for the circumstance. And that’s a big difference.

Sometimes we like to say, we thank God in the circumstance even though I hate the circumstance, but the Bible is actually saying, thank God for the circumstance as well. The funny thing is as soon as you’re thankful for something or someone, you see them positively. So instead of hating or criticizing them, you now see the positive in them.

That’s why Paul thanked God for the people he was writing to, because it gave him a platform for every following comment. One of the best things a pastor can do is to thank God—for his congregation, his board, his wife and children. Even though some of those people might be frustrating him, if he thanks God for them, he’s gonna change his views and see things differently.

And once you see things differently, you actually see a strategy, a way forward. If I thank God for a problem, then I’ll find a way to deal with it because the positive mind always sees a way through. The negative mind accepts defeat and can’t find a way.

You’ve been a friend of CHC since 1992. That’s 21 years till now. What was your first meeting with Pastor Kong like?

The first time I remember meeting Pastor Kong was in a very large warehouse that he had rented, but he only had maybe 120 people. So he’s always had huge faith, stepping out in enormous ways.

The very next meeting I had with him was at our annual conference, now known as the Presence Conference. And he was on his honeymoon. He came to our conference on his honeymoon. So I was very impressed with that, and I gave him a gift so he was able to go out and buy some clothes for his wife as a present.

I think that was the beginning of the relationship, because I saw in him such a great faith, such a wonderful attitude, and I just felt that he was just going to do something incredible for God.

How would you say the relationship has developed over the years?

I think our relationship is a combination of several factors. In the early years, I would have guided him and been something like a mentor to him, and I would still be that now, but only by his initiative, not mine. But I would also treat him as a peer, a colleague, and someone that I would stand with in the faith.

There are not many people in the world I would feel that I am called to lay down my life for—and I’m not trying to be dramatic—but he would be one of them. I generally feel that over the years, my Christianity is expressed in helping people I can help, who may not necessarily be those whom others have access to, such as pastors. There are many pastors who are facing difficult times whom I feel I can be of a little help to.

But I would put Pastor Kong in a totally different category than just that because he’s a close friend. I think that we should lay down our lives for our friends. That’s what the Kingdom is. It’s a privilege for me too. It’s an honor. I’m blessed to being involved with City Harvest Church.

At Presence Conference last month, you had Pastor Kong come onstage. You really showed a lot of support for him, and after that there was a lot of negative talk on the Internet. How do you deal with that?   

I don’t—I don’t even bother reading it. You know, I’ll be worried if every comment about me was positive.

Why do you say that?

Well, I’m not sure you’re really being effective if you haven’t got critics. There’s not a person who’s achieving anything in the world today who hasn’t got critics. But we’ve taken criticism all our lives for following Christ, for taking steps of faith. I don’t really bother with it. Sometimes it comes across my path and I try to toughen up and not let it affect me.

You spoke about it during your sermon (last Sunday), about the “poison” that some emails or articles carry. What if a new member in church sees something that offends them? How would you advise them to step away from it?

For a young, new person, that’s such a hard thing. I think you’ve got to be upfront and tell people how you’re feeling. In the early church there was a lot of persecution, a lot more than there is now. There are churches in the Middle East where if people know they became Christians, they could be killed.

I know of a church which last year buried 150 of its members who were killed [for being Christians]. There’s a C3 church in that same country which can’t hold meetings on a regular basis because if the locals know when they’re having a meeting they will attack, so they have to constantly change the timings, and they can’t all gather at once; it’s very underground.

So the reality of Christ coming in to a person’s life has to be very real, [not] just going to church, being religious. Because when people discover Jesus, they will pay any price. I think that’s the surest way (to stay away from the poison). But I also think if they received Christ with eyes wide open, they will see that there is a price to following Christ.

What do you see in the future of City Harvest Church?

The price it’s paying today will be the purchase of a future of incredible blessing, of great abundance. I think it will affect the world in a lot of ways, especially in terms of cell groups, culture and reaching a lost world. I think CHC will have a huge impact in China; it’ll possibly be its most major calling, but it may also affect the whole of Asia.

CHC will be celebrating its 25th anniversary next year. What should the members look towards, what should they focus on?

The next 25 years. If you extrapolate the last 25 years of growth, you’ll probably come out to half a million people, if we keep growing at the rate we’ve been growing at. So once you see an end result, you can develop a pathway to it, a strategy. That’s why God sees the end from the beginning. Every leader or person in management needs to see the end from the beginning.

You would have heard that Sun’s suspension has been lifted and that she is back as our executive director. What are your thoughts on this?

I think Sun is essential to the core, the fabric and the culture of the church, and her input should not be underestimated. Her concepts, her design, her input into the worship, the leadership and the people should not be undervalued in any way at all. I think she’s very key to the future of City Harvest Church.

Source: By Theresa Tan, City News, An Interview With Phil Pringle: CHC Has A Future Of Incredible Blessing, http://www.citynews.sg/2013/05/an-interview-with-phil-pringle-chc-has-a-future-of-incredible-blessing/, Updated on 22 May 2013. (Accessed 23/05/2013.)

Kong Hee Says Phil Pringle Might Be Taking Over City Harvest Church?

19 Sunday May 2013

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“And I just got to say that, Sun and I from the bottom of our hearts, together with our eldership, our leadership: we are very very grateful for C3 for releasing Pastor Phil and Pastor Chris to be our Advisory Pastor.

And what does that mean to be Advisory Pastor? If anything happens to me, he’s taking over my church. So, you know- I don’t know- Is that good or bad news for you? Haha!

Yeah, but Pastor Phil has been a pillar to our ministry for the last three years.” – Kong Hee, Global C3 Presence Conference, Day 1, Session 1, 2013.

Don’t Mess With CHC’s Advisory Pastor A.R. Bernard – He’ll “Honestly” Deal With You Too

17 Wednesday Apr 2013

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THE INTEGRITY OF ADVISORY PASTOR A.R. BERNARD

C3 Church Watch has gathered a vast load of information that reveals why cult leader Phil Pringle is not fit to be an Advisory Pastor for CHC. However, now we wish to turn your attention to CHC’s Advisory Pastor AR Bernard. He too has close associations with Phil Pringle and C3 Church (and also Hillsong).

We strongly advise C3 Church, Hillsong and City Harvest Church to have nothing to do with A.R. Bernard. We do not know when or where this was recorded. However, ministers should think twice about their own integrity if they choose to associate with A.R. Bernard.

Any God-fearing Christian should be disgusted that AR Bernard calls deceitful scheming men that achieve his selfish purposes “God’s favour”. To use the story of Rahab the prostitute in Joshua 6 to justify his behaviour is not the way a Christian pastor should behave. Nor should he be promoting such immoral behaviour to his audience.

Pray that AR Bernard repents.

[Edit: Transcipt now added (20/04/2013)]

“Here’s a question that comes up – “Can you be totally honest and be
successful in the marketplace? Can you be totally honest and yet be
successful in the marketplace?”

Now of course people who don’t subscribe to the Lord, who don’t subscribe to
our value system will say “No you can’t! You have to be involved in bribes, you have to be corrupt and involved in corruption. You have to pay “under the table”, (laughs). You have to be a crook in order to be successful in the marketplace.”

Now many can honestly say that this has, you have, you have experienced a
question like this, an issue like this, since you’ve been in the marketplace. Oh! It would only happen in America? Oh, man! [Laughs]

Where’s there’s a conflict of values and you’re put in a situation where you
have an opportunity for a deal, alright? But somewhere in the midst, they
want you to lie.

Now this is a dilemma that I had to think about and I came across a story
because my value is, that not that honesty is the best policy, honesty is the
only policy! Because if you say it’s the best, it means you have a other
choice. But when you say it’s the only policy, you don’t have a choice.
You’re going to be honest all the time, alright? And because you value
integrity, no matter what the price is, you’re going to be honest.

Now let me give you some real practical stuff that goes on in the marketplace.
Let me give you a story.

There was a women named Rahab in the bible. You’ve heard of her? Alright,
she was a prostitute and uh- she lived on the wall in Jericho. And God had
promised that Israel, under the leadership of Joshua, would ultimately take
Jericho. Jericho was nervous because they heard about the God of Israel
and the incredible things He had done and His power and all that. So the
king of Jericho was terrified. The people of Jericho were terrified. This
prostitute heard about it.

So ah- Joshua sends two spies. Goes to the city to check out the condition of
things and these two spies come to this house of this woman, (who was a
prostitute), named Rahab. And- the presence of the spies immediately indicates that Israel is about to make a move on Jericho. And Rahab is concerned about her own safety so she looks to make a deal because she believes what she’s heard about this God of Israel- of the Israleites.

So she says, “Look, I’ve heard about what your God did to certain kings, how
He crushed their kingdoms. Word has gotten around and I’m going to tell you,
everybody is terrified.” So she makes a deal for her own safety. She says, “Look I want to make a deal with you. If I help you, will you look out for me when the assault takes place?” And they basically said, “Yeah, we’ll help you.”

So here’s what happens, interesting scenario, alright?

Word gets out that these two spies aaare there, so she takes them up to the
roof and she hides them and then the men of Jericho, the military of
Jericho, comes to her house and say “Look we heard that two men came to you and we want to know where they are.”

Now here’s the dilemma. Here’s the moral dilemma when I talk about integrity
and honesty, alright?

Rahab says “Um, actually I don’t know where they are. In fact I- they
came and then they went off in a certain direction”. And the military, the
guys from Jericho said “Oh-” they believe her, alright OK? And they turn and went off looking for these two spies. But the whole time she had them hidden on her roof! Now here’s the problem! She lied! How do we reconcile a person
lying and yet serving the efforts of God? That’s the dilemma.

I remember one principle that I heard and um- it- the principle was, ah- that no lie ever serves the kingdom of God. And I had to think that through and say
“Well, wait a minute! That’s not true! There’s been quite a few lies through the bible”.

And then I started associating names. Mmmm- Abraham (laughs) the father of faith, who lied. So you know, listen, we’ve got to be honest as Christians, and when we read something in the bible, we can’t try to gloss it over and rearrange it. It is what it is, it says what it says. So here’s this woman in the service of God, she lies! Boldly lies! How do I reconcile that?

Well I had to reason this through and said, “Okay”.

Number one, the men, the spies as it appears okay, the spies maintain their integrity. And the person who lied okay, was a person on the outside who heard about this God YAHWEH but was not in relationship with this God YAHWEH. So she had certain values that were not the same as these individuals’ values that they got from Yahweh. And I thought about that and I realised that there are times, (and I’ve experienced this, and you will too), where in business transactions God actually used people who had different values and lower standards, to get His work done. Now let me say, whoa wait a minute! [Laughter] Come on!. Come on! Let’s be honest here, alright? I’ll give you two illustrations, OK?”

When we were bidding on this housing development and we bid again below a billion dollars, but our bid was accepted, everyone had their part to play.
So we had a team, we had equity partners, we had development partners, we
had the government and the community, with my responsibility to use my
influence with government and community in order to make this deal go
through.

So I remember when the equity partners were about to leave and they said to
me, they said, “Reverend, we don’t think you should be in on this meeting”. [laughter] They said, “Because we’ve got to roll up our sleeves and go to work in order to get the underwriting that we’re gonna need for this project”. I said,
“Well, what do you mean, I don’t need to be there?” They said, “You really don’t need to be there REVEREND (emphasis)” [More laughter]

So the lights went on, and I said “Ohhhhhhhhh, OK! I won’t be there!”
[Laughter] So whatever went on in that meeting, I didn’t want to know about
it, I didn’t want to be a part of it, BUT I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE THINGS
GOING ON IN THAT MEETING THAT WERE INCONSISTENT WITH MY INTEGRITY AND MY STANDARDS [More laughter]. SO I ALLOWED MY PARTNERS TO PROTECT ME FROM WHAT THEY WERE ABOUT to engage in.

Now, what did they do? I don’t know. But when they came out of that meeting, we had the financing we needed. And I said “Hallelujah!” [More laughter]

Let me give you another illustration: when we were building- [Laughs] We were building our 11-1/2 acre campus. Now in New York City, concrete and steel construction, ah, has been for decades owned by one family (and I don’t say the Trump family). it was a family that spells its name like this [Laughter] You know a family I’m talking about? [More laughter].

They ownsteel, they own concrete, they own rubbish removal. Listen, across the board, nothing gets built without their involvement, OK?

So we were building in the late 90’s. There were also coalitions, and the
coalitions and unions get involved in order to push work for their union
members. So any project that’s going on, coalition leaders will come down
and take a look at the project and ask, “Do you have any union labor here?
Because if not, we’re going to shut this place down!” And they could.

Now what we did, instead of hiring a separate development company, we were the GC (General Contractor) on the project. So if anybody was gonna get upset, they were gonna to get upset with the church. And you just don’t attack the church. That’s number one!

So what we did was outsource it, to bring it in. So when we went to purchase
steel, (in order to do the steelwork, alright), we had to deal with the company that happened to be a part of this family. So in sitting down and talking
[Laughs], with the head of the company. He said, “Well, you know, our family
does concrete. Our family does, you know, ah, fencing”. And they told me all the services provided by their family. I said, “But look, in order for me to do
this project fairly, I have to bid it out.” They said, “Don’t worry. We will
always come in with the best bid. So get anyone else that you want to bid on
the project and I guarantee you, we’ll beat their bid”. [Laughter]

So [Laughs] we had two other bids and we had their bids and sure enough, for some reason, the other bidders said we can’t compete with that bid
[Laughter].

I don’t know if they couldn’t compete with the bid or the family! [Laughter]
So they disappeared and we only had this particular company to deal with. So
they started the project and I found out that word spread about this
particular company was handling our construction project. And as a result,
for some reason, we had no union problems, we had no coalition problems, no
community problems, no government problems. The project went pretty smooth! Uh!

So, on the land next to – we have 11-1/2 acres, we were developing 6-1/2
acres. And on the other side, there was, ah, a- like a backhoe, big construction
machine left on the property. So I saw that and I noticed it, and I noticed it- you know- it was there. And I think, “OK. They were using it so they parked it there because they need it”.

But they never used that machine! It just sat there! So I said, “OK, maybe they’re going to use it for something after”. But throughout the whole project, that machine just sat on the property next door to the property we were developing. So finally I asked the question. I said, “You know, you
guys have had that machine there for the past two years throughout the
development of this project and ummm, you know, you never used it. I don’t
understand.”

“Reverend, don’t worry about it, we just left it there”.

Well, I found out that that machine was a “marker” and that machine sitting there “marker” told everybody who would drive by, “don’t touch this project!”
[Crowd: “Woooah!” Applause]

So the project was under the protection and development of this particular
family. [Laughet] Got it?

So there are times as we engage with the marketplace, God brings people to us who are not of the same values and integrity, who end up accomplishing things on our behalf, without us having to compromise our own integrity. It doesn’t mean you go out looking for corrupt people to do your work [Laughter]. Don’t think that that’s what I’m saying [Laughter]. There’s a difference when God gives you favour and sends someone, as opposed to you calling up, “Oh, OK. Let me give you the most corrupt individual you can find” [Laughter] . No, because then you become an accessory to the fact, alright?

But you’ll find, and I’ve found, (as it’s the only way I can explain this),
that there have been times when God has just given me favour and given me
people to do for me what I could not do for myself, nor did I need to know
[Laughs] how it was being done because God knows that I want to maintain my level of integrity and my service. Come on! Give God a good hand clap offering!

[Applause]

Now, Joseph experienced false accusation. Let me just say something to you
about false accusations. Number one, sometimes what appears to be a demotion is actually a promotion. Sometimes what appears to be a demotion is actually a promotion. Sometimes God humbles us in order to exalt us!

And as I said to you, there is no biblical record that shows where Joseph
was vindicated against this false accusation. But let me give you some
principles that I’ve learned over the years because I’ve gone through false
accusations about things and the Lord has told me, in one very critical
situation, “Just hold your peace, just be quiet and I’ll take care if this”.

And I held my peace, my wife wanted to talk because my wife said, “Well, He
told you that but He didn’t tell me that”. She wanted to talk but I said “No,
no, no, no, no, you’re under my covering!” [Laughter]

Let me give you a principle that I’ve observed over thirty one years, OK? False
accusation is the last stage before supernatural promotion.

Falseaccusation is the last stage before supernatural promotion. Now, which means that if the devil cannot attack your quality of service, if he cannot attack your integrity, then he’s got to make up a lie about you! And when he’s got to go that far, that is the last stage before promotion. So you shouldn’t get angry and upset. You should do exactly like Joseph. What do you do? Continue the quality of service and continue to walk in integrity.

Your name is attacked before you’re promoted. Your reputation is attacked
before you’re promoted. And if you can stand the attack on your reputation
because you’ve built the character that you need, then you’ll experience the
next level of promotion.

“Well, that’s not fair! Why do I have to be attacked? [Laughs] Why do I have
to go through false accusation to be promoted?” Because rememeber: we live
life on levels, we arrive on stages, right? And as you move from one level
of life to another, the INTIMACY of your relationships must change. So quite
often, false accusations that come against you, purge your relationships
because you discover who you real friends are.

And believe me, when you’re promoted, you’ll want to take your real friends with you, not the ones who pretend to be your friends. You really find out who your friends are.

Earlier I said to you that relationship is a network for life – relationship
is a network for life. [Asks where he is on time schedule, takes time for
break] – A.R. Bernard

When Did Phil Pringle Become CHC’s Advisory Pastor?

25 Saturday Aug 2012

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Kong Hee and Sun Ho said at Presence Conference 2012 that as soon as investigations started 23 months ago, Pringle “graciously accepted to be the advisory pastor to City Harvest Church.”

You will also notice that just like Phil Pringle, Kong Hee is close friends with “Dr.” Kevin Dyson (from New Covenant International). Sound familiar? We will look into this shortly.

However CHCs City News, reported something different on the 4th of October, 2010 in regards to when Pringle became advisory pastor. So when did Phil Pringle become the advisory pastor?

From City News: http://www.citynews.sg/2010/10/city-harvest-appoints-advisory-committee/, (Accessed 14/08/2012.)

Church & Missions

City Harvest Appoints Advisory Committee

Posted on 04 October 2010

As part of continuing efforts to improve on structure, governance and accountability, CHC names the chairman and advisory pastor of its advisory committee.

At its weekend service last week, senior pastor of City Harvest Church Rev. Kong Hee announced that Dr. A.R. Bernard of Christian Cultural Center and Pastor Phil Pringle of Christian City Church will serve on the church’s advisory committee, which is being set up these few weeks.

Neither are strangers to CHC; both Bernard and Pringle have been long-time friends and guest speakers at the church, preaching at least twice every year for well over a decade.

“Since the early 1990s, the church has always benefited greatly from the assistance and advice of external pastors and ministers,” Kong told the congregation at the four services, naming Elder George Ong from Church of Singapore, Rev. George Ee from Calvary Charismatic Centre, Dr. Kevin Dyson from New Covenant International and Dr. Ulf Ekman from Word Of Life among past advisors.

“However, while CHC had benefited greatly from the wisdom and experience of such pastors and paid due respect to them, there was no structure or arrangement in place to formally acknowledge them. In 2007, provision was made for this with the proposal for a board of independent advisors, but this board had not been staffed until now.

“If there is anything I’ve learned through the process of this investigation, it is the need for a greater level of accountability and governance in the operations of City Harvest Church,” explained Kong, before announcing that Bernard and Pringle, “two men whom we all respect greatly and have the heart of CHC, as well as the expertise and experience to serve in this capacity,” had agreed to formalize an advisory committee to serve CHC.

Bernard will assume the role of chairman of the advisory committee. A former Wall Street banker, Bernard oversees the 33,000-member Christian Cultural Center in New York. He is also currently the president of the Council of Churches of the City of New York. He sits on the New York City Economic Development Corporation Board, and is a member of the Debt Reduction Task Force for the U.S. Senate Budget Committee.

“Most importantly, Dr. A.R. Bernard is a great friend and a strong supporter of our vision, mission and core values of CHC,” says Kong.

Pringle will be appointed advisory pastor to CHC. He is City Harvest’s oldest friend, having supported the church “since there were 200 people in a warehouse [the size of the Expo auditorium].”

He is the senior minister of Christian City Church in Oxford Falls, Sydney, and also oversees more than 250 Christian City Churches worldwide. In the year 2000, he was awarded the Medal of the Order of Australia for extraordinary services to the community.

“As the Chairman, Dr. Bernard has agreed to come help us once every two months, while Pastor Phil will be coming once or twice a month,” announced Kong. “Both of them will be assisting our pastoral ministry in the planning, organizing, initiating, promoting, coordinating and reviewing of the worship, religious education and mission activities within the church.” The church may consider additional appointments to the committee when appropriate or when the need arises.

Kong’s announcement drew enthusiastic applause and cheers from the congregation at all four services.

“I thought that the announcement was a clear demonstration of what our leaders stand for—accountability and unity. To be able to open ourselves to ideas, opinions, checks and balances is not only the wise thing to do but the right thing to do,” commented church member Bernard Lim, 47, a financial educator. “At the same time, the demonstration of unity among the brethren, standing together in a time of need, fleshes out what we have been talking about. CHC is witnessing both leadership-by-example at work and what being a Christian truly means.”

“I am glad they are setting up the advisory committee,” said Vivienne Ho, 42, an insurance broker. “I’m very touched by Dr. Bernard and Pastor Phil’s great sacrifice for our church. This is a heavy responsibility and they have their own churches, not to mention the fact that they live overseas. For them to be here every month is a very serious commitment.”

Pringle shared with City News the reasons why he said yes to this new role. “First, when Kong asked me, I said, Let me go and pray about it. And I did. I also talked it over with [wife] Chris, and we talked with our leaders. I felt peace and they felt right about it, so I have to conclude that God has guided us.“We Place CHC As A Priority”

“Second, Kong and Sun and CHC are dear to us. We have a long history. There are some friends you would lay down your life for, and they are two of them. God gives you only a few divine connections in life. Do whatever you can to ensure these connections serve God.

“Third, this church is important to the world today. It is a great church builder and planter. It has been a leader in showing people in Asia and the world how to do church. It is holy, pursues purity, keeps the Word of God—it does not compromise on these issues. But it is contemporary and relevant in the world, not only being acceptable but leading in the marketplace.”

Bernard shares Pringle’s commitment to Kong and CHC. “I believe in the work and ministry of Pastor Kong and City Harvest,” he told City News. “And our loyalty is tested in times of crisis. Whether we will stand or abandon our important friendships … [and] I don’t believe that God ever abandons the work of His own hands.”

These new roles mean some measure of sacrifice for both ministers. Pringle shared that this commitment will take him out of church six more weekends than in a normal year. “We have a really good team in Sydney with a lot of rising leaders,” he said. “We feel confident that [the church will] be in good hands.”

As for his network of nearly 300 C3 churches throughout the world, Pringle said that he would be able to maintain constant communication with them. “The only other area that may cost is my availability for preaching and weekend events around the world,” he admitted, “but I should be able to take midweek conferences.

“We place CHC as a priority—it takes priority in our schedules and resources.”

While Pringle consults on day-to-day matters, Bernard’s role is macro, aimed at strengthening the governance and structure of the church. “I want to do everything to make sure the church is strong, and spiritually, emotionally and psychologically prepared to embrace the exciting future that God has for CHC,” explained Bernard.

He expressed his agreement with Kong that there is an urgent need to take the leadership, governance and operations of CHC to the next level. “We are considering the best way at this point to ensure longevity and perpetuity of the ministry.”

The objective behind his involvement is to “bring the church to a greater level of efficiency and effectiveness. By efficiency, I mean great accountability and focus in the financial management of the church. By effectiveness, I mean reaching the specific and agreed-upon goals and purposes of CHC.”

At service, Kong told the congregation: “By the grace of God, we have done remarkably well as a church in the past 21 years. We now look forward to building on the gifting, anointing and wisdom of these two men of God as members of our advisory committee. They have both been mentors to me and my wife Sun. They will now strengthen and add to our spiritual DNA. Through their independent perspectives, they will bring fresh and novel ideas to build up our church in the years to come.”

With support from Bernard and Pringle, CHC is bracing for a time of change that will prepare it for the next level. “The whole advisory committee is about making the congregation feel safe and assured,” Bernard added. “It is not to be perceived that we are coming over and turning it into something else.

“We are accepting responsibility for the future of the church.”