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David Baker Discusses The Issues With David Yonggi Cho’s Leadership

07 Friday Mar 2014

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To Our C3 Member Readership…

… We have a number of articles lined up for you to print and pass around your friends, families and cell groups.

The scandal of Yonggi Cho is raising serious discussions among popular Christian reporters, writers, teachers and so-called Christian leaders.

While we do not agree with every theological point in this article, Baker’s overall advice should be considered as a direct warning to the unrepentant sins of Phil Pringle and his C3 movement. Following on from our previous articles, can you see the issues we may disagree within this article?

1. What similarities do you see in Yoido Full Gospel Church leadership that is also evident in your C3 Church leadership?

2. How would you deal with these issues if they happened at C3 Church?

3. Would you encourage your cell group members to stand and endorse David Yonggi Cho?

4. What do you think Phil Pringle should biblically do?

David Baker from the Christian Post reports,

David Yonggi Cho: Money, sex, power and the perils of church leadership

It doesn’t look like good news for the gospel when the senior pastor of one of the world’s largest Christian congregations is convicted of corruption.

As this website has reported, David Yonggi Cho, founder of the million-strong Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea, has been found guilty of embezzling $12 million in church funds. He was sentenced to three years in prison – suspended for five years – and ordered to pay $4.67 million in fines.

As a report by the Gospel Herald put it, the news “spread like wildfire among global Christian communities, where followers of the disgraced South Korean mega-church pastor searched for an explanation of how their spiritual leader became entangled in the crime”.

Perhaps, however, we should not be so surprised. Christian leaders are no more immune from temptation than anyone else – and it is often money, sex or power which trips them up. Yet the New Testament sets a high standard for those who aspire to have oversight of congregations, declaring that they “must be blameless – not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, and not pursuing dishonest gain,” as Paul puts it in his Epistle to Titus. Rather, they must be “hospitable, love what is good… [and] self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined”. (Titus 1v7-8)

Nonetheless, Paul himself was the first to admit that sin was an ongoing struggle for him: “I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out,” he laments in Romans 7. “For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing.” Although some have argued he was speaking about his experience before becoming a Christian, the majority of Bible scholars – from Augustine through to the Reformation and beyond – agree that he was writing about his ongoing post-conversion struggle against sin. More recently, when Pope Francis was asked to define himself, he replied: “I am a sinner. This is the most accurate definition. It is not a figure of speech, a literary genre. I am a sinner.”

Church leaders are not expected to be perfect – but they are expected to be living in daily repentance and faith. The problem for them comes when the daily battle against sin is abandoned, when it remains unconfessed to God, and when sin makes it impossible for them to discharge the duties of their ministry or brings the gospel into public disgrace.

In the case of David Yonggi Cho, one of his church elders has said: “Over the past 14 years, I have met with Rev Cho many times to try to persuade him to repent and return to being a great pastor, but the corruption has continued. That’s why I had no choice but to disclose it to the outside world.”

Sometimes, on the other hand, ministers are brought down by untrue accusations – or the misdeeds of others. Again, Paul wrote of experiencing “glory and dishonour, bad report and good report” and of his mission team being “genuine, yet regarded as impostors,” (2 Corinthians 6v7-9). In Cho’s case, one American minister and friend, Bob Rodgers, has suggested his downfall was at least in part due to naïvety in signing financial papers prepared by others without reading them properly.

Either way, the loneliness and lack of accountability which many church leaders experience makes them even more vulnerable to the temptations of Satan who is – after all – constantly seeking their downfall. Who are your church ministers? What could you pray for them each day? And what words of encouragement could you offer them today?

Source: By David Baker, The Christian Post, http://www.christiantoday.com/article/david.yonggi.cho.money.sex.power.and.the.perils.of.church.leadership/36083.htm, Published 4 March 2014. (Accessed 05/03/2014.)

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Operation Wolf Pack: David Yonggi Cho Damage Control

Charisma Covering Cho’s Woes

CHC Publishes Yoido Full Gospel Church Statement

Christianity Today & Huffington Post Report On Yonggi Cho Scandal

CHC Stands With The Convicted David Yonggi Cho: “We Stand By Him In This Time Of Need”

Cho’s Woes

Kong Hee & Phil Pringle’s Mentor David Yonggi Cho Convicted For Tax Evasion

Ps David Yonggi Cho of Yoido Full Gospel Church Sentenced “Three Years In Prison, Suspended For Five Years, And … To Pay 5 billion Won”

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C3 Asheville Scandal – Massive Financial Judgment Against C3 Asheville Pastor Nick Dimitris (Part 6)

22 Friday Nov 2013

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 Asheville Scandal

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Before reading our article below, please read this court document:

Court Document: Document 1

In the document attached to this article, (see Court Document 1) you’ll witness another of C3 Asheville pastor, Nicholas Dimitris’ legal woes. This document is public record, easily found on the internet and seems to show that the FDIC won a case Dimitris brought against them.

Unfortunately, it seems Dimtris now has a judgment against him for around $1.1million. Now, as a felon with a massive financial judgment against him and pending sentencing for pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit bank fraud next week, November 26, it seems that C3 is still fine with him being a pastor. Despite his staff and 2 boards in one year quitting C3 Asheville, oversight persists with Dimitris. Oversight primarily meaning Dean Sweetman due to the fact that 2 other New York C3 pastors both came in to evaluate the situation and recommend that Dimitris be removed. Sweetman continues to stand with Nick Dimitris when hundreds of reputable people have had no other choice other than to walk away.

C3 Asheville once seemed like a growing church of 250 people but is now a shadow of its former self struggling along with 35 people. Having tried twice now, the people nor the 2 boards that left nor the 2 C3 New York pastors had the option to remove Dimitris. Their only option was to leave the church which most have done and mostly in disbelief that Sweetman didn’t act in light of evidence presented to him. Many who left C3 report having had their character assassinated by Dimitris in a subtle and clever campaign to discredit anyone who stands against him.

Another disturbing aspect of this Asheville drama is that according to those who were close to Dimitris, some retirees have lost everything. One retiree in C3 was reportedly asked by Dimtris to take out a $30,000 home equity loan. Nick Dimitris allegedly borrowed it from the retiree with the promise to pay it back in full once he received some big tax refunds. Dimitris did receive his massive tax returns and the retiree is still waiting for his repayment 2 years later.

Another elderly couple report being $50k short in a Dimitris “deal”. Another widow lost her life savings and had to move in with her kids while another retirement aged investor lost half a million. Story after story and tragedy after tragedy are slowly coming to surface over the C3 Asheville scandal.

Perhaps oversight should ask one simple question. What is the fruit that Nick Dimitris bears? Is it a multitude of broken relationships? Is it many people that have testified to losing their retirement or savings? Is it a destroyed church? Destroyed by a man who wouldn’t let go or step down? Is it a culture of corruption? Is it a culture of lies and tearing people down? Perhaps they’re just not close enough to see the fruit.

Recently Dean Sweetman has been commenting on C3 Church Watch. He is the regional director and overseer of the C3 Churches in the Americas. Please familiarise yourself with the background of the scandal that C3 Pastor Nick Dimitris was involved in and how the C3 Church leadership reacted to him.

C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor Facing Prison (Part 1)
C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor “Pleads Guilty In Bank Fraud Case” (Part 2)
C3 Asheville Scandal – Sweetmans Do Nothing Against Fraudulent C3 Pastor? (Part 3)

C3 Asheville Scandal – Four “People… Have Pleaded Guilty” Including “[C3] Minister… Nicholas Dimitris” (Part 4)

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C3 Asheville Scandal – Four “People… Have Pleaded Guilty” Including “[C3] Minister… Nicholas Dimitris” (Part 4)

05 Saturday Oct 2013

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Recently Dean Sweetman has been commenting on C3 Church Watch. He is the regional director and overseer of the C3 Churches in the Americas. You can read some of his responses to the C3 Asheville scandal in the comment sections of these articles.

Court News Update
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Before reading the below newspaper articles, please familiarise yourself with the background of the scandal that C3 Pastor Nick Dimitris was involved in and how the C3 Church leadership reacted to him.

C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor Facing Prison (Part 1)
C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor “Pleads Guilty In Bank Fraud Case” (Part 2)
C3 Asheville Scandal – Sweetmans Do Nothing Against Fraudulent C3 Pastor? (Part 3)

Ask yourself this question – in light of Nick Dimitris being charged guilty in 2011, has Pastor and ‘Executive Regional C3 Americas Overseer’ Dean Sweetman handled himself well on this blog and over the scandal in Asheville? Have your say below.

The Citizen Times Reported,

2 plead guilty in Seven Falls case

ASHEVILLE — Two more defendants charged with conspiracy in an elaborate scheme to illegally obtain more than $23 million to forestall failure of the bankrupt Seven Falls development pleaded guilty this week.

Real estate investors Avery Ted “Buck” Cashion III and Raymond “Ray” Chapman Jr. each face up to five years in prison and $250,000 fines when they are sentenced, according to court records.

The defendants pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Asheville to one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States. Terms of the plea agreement with prosecutors remain sealed.

Prosecutors allege Cashion and Chapman were involved in a scheme with Seven Falls developer Keith Vinson to have “straw borrowers” buy lots in the development they did not intend to repay. Vinson was unable to borrow more money because of rules designed to limit banks’ exposure to any one borrower.

Vinson and the other remaining three defendants – accountant George M. Gabler, former Pisgah Community Bank President Thomas “Ted” Durham and retired appraiser Aaron Ollis – are scheduled to go on trial Oct. 7.

Source: Clarke Morrison, 2 plead guilty in Seven Falls case, The Citizen Times, http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013130920016, 20/09/2013. (Accessed 05/10/2013.)

The Citizen Times also recently reported,

Vinson arraigned on Seven Falls indictment
New Seven Falls indictment reflects co-conspirators’ pleas

ASHEVILLE — Developer Keith Vinson was arraigned Thursday on charges contained in a new grand jury indictment alleging an elaborate conspiracy to obtain more than $23 million in illegal loans to prop up his failing Seven Falls development.

The indictment replaces one filed last year as a way to streamline Vinson’s trial, which is set to begin Monday in U.S. District Court in Asheville, prosecutors said in court papers.

The superseding bill reduces the number of criminal counts from 48 to 13. The charges include conspiracy to commit bank fraud, conspiracy to defraud the United States, misapplication of bank funds, wire fraud and money laundering.

Some charges carry penalties of as much as 30 years in prison and a $1 million fine.

Prosecutors said the new indictment reflects the fact that all of Vinson’s 10 alleged co-conspirators have pleaded guilty.

“In order to avoid confusing the jury,” the indictment reorders the remaining counts and updates the status of the other defendants, court records state. Since the document doesn’t add any new counts or “substantive allegations,” the government believes there’s no need to delay the trial.

According to the 27-page indictment, Vinson and others “devised and executed various schemes to defraud federally insured banks and others to forestall the failure of their luxury residential development and golf resort in Henderson County, North Carolina, known as Seven Falls.”

Three defendants who had been scheduled to be tried along with Vinson entered guilty pleas last week. Former Pisgah Community Bank President Thomas “Ted” Durham Jr. and retired appraiser Aaron Ollis each pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States. Accountant George M. Gabler pleaded guilty to withholding information about a crime.

Magistrate Judge Dennis Howell told Durham and Ollis they each face maximum sentences of five years in prison, while Gabler could spend up to three years behind bars.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Don Gast said that as part of their plea agreements with prosecutors, the defendants agreed to assist the government in the case.

Prosecutors allege Vinson and other defendants were involved in a scheme to have “straw borrowers” buy lots in the development with loans they did not intend to repay. Vinson was unable to borrow more money because of rules designed to limit banks’ exposure to any one borrower.

Seven Falls filed for bankruptcy in 2009. The luxury development was planned to accommodate 900 homes and an Arnold Palmer-designed golf course on 1,400 acres, potentially adding $1.25 billion to Henderson County’s tax base.

Weeds have overtaken the golf course, and overgrowth has made it hard to see the pro shop, one of the few structures on the property, which has suffered severe erosion.

Real estate investors Avery Ted “Buck” Cashion III and Raymond “Ray” Chapman Jr. pleaded guilty last month to one count each of conspiracy to defraud the United States.

Durham and former Bank of Asheville President George Gordon “Buddy” Greenwood “conspired to conceal the risks posed by Seven Falls-related loans from their shareholders, auditors and regulators,” court records state.

Greenwood pleaded guilty to bank fraud charges and was sentenced in May 2012 to four years in federal prison. According to court records, Greenwood was involved in illegal loans to Vinson totaling nearly $6.8 million.

Problems with Seven Falls played a key role in the fall of the Bank of Asheville. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. shut down the bank in January 2011 and transferred its assets to Troy-based First Bank because of big losses on loans.

Four other people also have pleaded guilty to being involved in schemes to make or receive straw loans. They are former Pisgah Community Bank officials Robert Craig Gourlay and David G. Smith, minister and real estate investor Nicholas Dimitris and former banker Andrew Quinn Hager.

In the early 1980s, Vinson served just more than two years in prison in Florida for felony convictions for forgery, obtaining property under false pretenses and grand theft.

He was convicted in 1982 in Jacksonville, Fla., according to records from the Duval County Clerk of Court, the Clay County Clerk of Court and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Vinson was sentenced to five years and spent 25 months in a Florida prison, receiving parole in February 1984.

Source: Clarke Morrison, Vinson arraigned on Seven Falls indictment…, The Citizen Times, http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20131004/NEWS/310040036/, 03/10/2013. (Accessed 05/10/2013.)

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C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor “Pleads Guilty In Bank Fraud Case” (Part 2)

14 Monday Jan 2013

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Pringle Leadership Scandals

Previously on C3 Church Watch, we published this article on a C3 pastor who would be “facing five years in prison for his part in a bank fraud scheme involving real estate investors”.

C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor Facing Prison (Part 1)

We now have found prior information on this incident.

The Telegram reports,

Asheville pastor pleads guilty in bank fraud case

ASHEVILLE, N.C. —  An Asheville pastor faces five years in prison for his part in a scheme to defraud a local bank by using so-called “straw borrowers” to get $825,000 in loans.

The Asheville Citizen-Times reports (http://avlne.ws/yHxoMX) that Nicholas Dimitris (dim-EET’-rihs) pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge in federal court last month.

Dimitris admitted to being part of a scheme to use straw borrowers, or stand-ins for the real recipients, to get loans from Pisgah Community Bank.

The 37-year-old is the pastor of C3 Church in Asheville. A call to his lawyer, Ronald True, was not immediately returned Tuesday.

Along with a maximum of five years in federal prison, Dimitris could also face a fine of up to $250,000.

It wasn’t immediately clear Tuesday if a sentencing date has been set.

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Information from: The Asheville Citizen-Times, http://www.citizen-times.com

Source: Telegram.com, Asheville pastor pleads guilty in bank fraud case, http://www.telegram.com/article/20120110/APN/301109696/10091121/RSS02&source=rss, Articled published: 10/1/2012. (Accessed 14/01/2012.)

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NOTES: ALL SCREEN GRABS WERE TAKEN ON 14/01/2013.

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