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What Noise Will You Make In 2016?

31 Sunday Jan 2016

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations, C3 Culture, Sermon Reviews

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c3, c3 church, Caley Korocz, church, Korocz, wolves

In his introduction to this particular Fighting For The Faith program, Chris Rosebrough gives a serious warning to those who twist God’s Word.

Chris begins:

“In my lecture I delivered in Norway on “sola scriptura”, my primary text was the Great Commission. Let me read what the Great Commission says …”

Matthew 28:18-20: “And Jesus came and said to them, all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me.“

That’s an important statement right there, and a lot of people, when they look at the Great Commission, they often ignore that. Ok, Jesus isn’t speaking his opinion, he’s speaking what he’s giving us to do now that all authority, yes all, there’s no authority in heaven or on earth that hasn’t been given to Christ. He is the head not the tail, if you know what I mean and He has willed for His church to do something very specific. Here’s what it says,

“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.”

What is a disciple? A disciple is a learner. What are they to be learning? Well, Jesus answers, he says:

“…make disciples of all nations, baptising the in the name of the Father, Son and. Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all I have commanded you.”

Yes, in other words, in the Great Commission, you actually hear the doctrine of Sola Scriptura writ large by Jesus himself because in His church, according to the authority that has been given to Him, Christ has said to go and make disciples. And what is it we’re supposed to be teaching them? All that Christ has commanded.

Now you’re thinking “well, where do I find that?” Yes, that’s a great question, I’m glad you asked. The only place I know of that you can go with any certainty and know that you are actually teaching the words of Christ, is all of the written word of God. And you’re thinking, “Woah, wait a second there Chris. You know Jesus is a New Testament guy, you know. He doesn’t even show up until, you know, the beginning of the Book of Matthew!”

And I would say, “if you think that, then you don’t know your bible.” Because Jesus is all over the Old Testament, all over it. He’s right there in Genesis chapter 1, verse 1. He was the one who said: “Let there be light”. He was the one who said: “Let the earth produce vegetation and plant and seed bearing trees according to their kinds.” He is the one who spoke the universe into existence, that’s right, Jesus is the one. And so, he makes appearances all throughout the Old Testament. He’s all over the place and really the whole Old Testament is about him.

And so I know with certainty because Jesus says, Jesus himself. When he was doing his earthly ministry here, when he was incarnate in his humbled state, to come and to die on the cross for our sins and to obey God’s Law perfectly. Jesus himself makes it clear that the Old Testament as we have it, that would be the Pentateuch, you know, the first five books of the bible, the writings of the prophets. That this is the Word of God. He always refers to it as that and quotes it authoritatively. So I know the Old Testament, that the Word of God, those are words of Christ. And I also know that the writings of the Apostles we find in the New Testament, those are also authoritative . And they are the words that Christ would have us learn because Jesus Himself, He personally didn’t write any books. We don’t have a single book that Jesus wrote Himself during his earthly ministry. In fact, He left that up to the Apostles and He tasked them with the job of making disciples of all nations. And the disciples are discipling the nations even to this day, through the Apostolic records.

So yes, I’m sorry but if you believe that we’ve been commissioned to go make disciples, learners, of all nations, baptising, teaching all that Christ has commanded, well then that demands Sola Scriptura. Not only does it demand Sola Scriptura, it also demands that the one who gets up and speaks in Christ’s church, remember all authority has been given to Him, the one who gets up and dares to speak in Christ’s church had better only speak what Christ would have us speak.

And that is what He has revealed in His written Word, rightly understood and correctly taught. Otherwise that person, who is speaking his own words, his own doctrines, his own ideas and supplanting what Christ has commanded us, with their own ideas, oh, that it a wicked servant, that is the type of servant that is discussed well in John chapter 10, the hireling who jumps the fence and doesn’t come in by the gate. Yes those are the ones you need to beware of and over and again we show here at “Fighting For The Faith”, day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, and now year and year and year – you know we’ve been on the air for almost ten years, I cannot believe we’re coming up on ten years but still have a little ways to go.

We’re not quite there yet but we demonstrate that so much of what passes for preaching today in Christ’s church, the one to whom all authority has been given in Heaven and on earth, it doesn’t actually square with what Jesus has told us to teach. It isn’t an historical biblical Christian orthodoxy, it’s not sound doctrine at all, it’s something completely different and that is dangerous and not only that, that is flat out rebellious.

You call yourself a Christian? You call yourself a Christian and you twist and mangle God’s Word without any pangs of conscious? Beware, that is sin of the highest order, it’s treason in Christ’s church and it is a sin for which many will find themselves in the lake of fire. So repent. Don’t listen to the bible twisters. Christ doesn’t want you to listen to them. He only wants you to listen to those faithful shepherds who rightly handling His Word and proclaiming the Truth and proclaiming Christ and truly making disciples of Jesus by only teaching what He has commanded….something to think about.”

The particular sermon delivered and reviewed in this program is from Caley Korocz, a young woman who attends C3 Oxford Falls in Sydney, the same C3 led by Phil Pringle.

Caley Korocz

Chris asks us to,

“note the pattern of how God’s Word is twisted, very similar in each of our segments. [see program below] Not exactly sure how to describe what we are hearing but it’s a far from a correct handling of God’s Word. It’s like the exact opposite of what that would supposedly sound like. But then again, the C3 folks, you know, they’re not really into that “God’s Word” much thingy at all. No they twist it and and disobey it and ignore parts of it and all this kind of stuff including the part that actually forbids who it is you’re going to be hearing, from doing what it is that’s she doing.

Yes, Gods Word certainly forbids what it is we’re going to hear Caley do but apparently that has not stopped the folks over there at C3 church to give her the stage, the podium and let her preach a sermon and twist God’s Word, (which of course she will not be disciplined for, but I will be called a “hater” for pointing out that what’s she done is sinful and wrong).”

We here at ChurchWatch are saddened to see this young woman, (who is obviously a talented communicator), believe she is called of God to preach a false message that brings no hope. A false message that burdens its hearers with Law, Law, Law and no gospel. All this happening under the watch of Phil Pringle (and yes, he has told the church he watches online whenever possible). A hireling who, rather than take up the task of preaching faithfully through the sound text of scripture week by week as a faithful shepherd would do, allows the “summer Session” attendees be exposed to a message that brings “death”, not LIFE as found in Christ and His Word faithfully preached.

A hireling who draws disciples after himself.

“Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore be alert.” Acts 20:28-31 

Dr. Paul Kretzmann in his Popular Commentary noted:

[Paul] knew that after his departure from them, in a future which was not greatly distant, there would enter into the flock from without grievous, ravening, ferocious wolves, false teachers that would have no mercy on the flock, but would use every means to disrupt the congregation, to murder the souls by trying to persuade them to accept false doctrine. And in addition there would be factionists from within, out of their own membership, men that would arise…with a doctrine full of perverse and antichristian matter, with the intention of drawing away those that were already Christians, the latter thereby becoming guilty of apostasy from the truth and from the true Church of Christ. These two dangers looming up before them, the elders of Ephesus should watch, be on their guard, exert constant vigilance.” [Source] 

Click on the link below to listen to the FFTF Podcast, “What Noise Will you Make in 2016?”

What Noise Will You Make in 2016?

PROGRAM SEGMENTS:

00:12:14 – Lou Engle The Call Azusa Now
00:34:15 – Tammy Southerland Fire House Prayer and Revival Hub Launch
00:39:37 – Tim Philip Believing is Seeing
00:57:34 – Bobby Schuller Interviews Brian Houston
01:16:39 – Sermon Review: What Noise Will You Make in 2016? by Caley Korocz of C3 Sydney

Source: Chris Rosebrough, What Noise Will You Make in 2016?, Pirate Christian Radio, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/1/what-noise-will-you-make-in-2016, Published 25/01/2016. (Accessed 29/01/2016.)

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Why Pat Mesiti is still a Hillsong/C3 “Pastor” Pat Mesiti (sermon review included)

18 Monday Jan 2016

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations, Sermon Reviews

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c3, c3 church, mesiti, pastor, pat mesiti, Phil Pringle, Pringle, restoration, wifebeater

People have started asking the question: “Is Pat Mesiti is still a pastor at either Hillsong or C3?” (Due to his recent arrest after beating his wife.) Even though Pat Mesiti was exposed in a scandal that expelled him from his position at Hillsong, evidence shows he is STILL considered a pastor in the Hillsong and C3 movements.

The proof of this is the fact he is still able to travel between Hillsong & C3 churches AND apparently speak in a pastoral context from their pulpits, (remember, the official role of a church pastor is to teach/preach from the pulpit). AND we are yet to hear an official statement denying that Pat Mesiti is a Hillsong or C3 pastor.

As we’ve written earlier,

“Just like Phil Pringle and Brian Houston, Mesiti wanted to be seen as a motivational speaker. He talks about how Hillsong and C3 have helped make him into someone who wants to make him a better pastor and business man in “evangelism, crusades” and “business functions”. Another article also informed us how Brian Houston was also there to guide, counsel and support Pat Mesiti.”

HILLSONG “PASTOR” PAT MESITI

You can read our article here, covering Pat Mesiti preaching at Hillsong London in 2010.

Money-Making Mesiti ‘Ministering’ At Hillsong London In 2010…

We also know that Senior Pastor Joel A’Bell from Hillsong , as early as 2010, defended “Pastor” Pat Mesiti from critics.

 

On the 13th of October 2010, Joel A’Bell posted this tweet, which came through on his FaceBook wall,

A genuine leader will never exploit your emotions or your pocketbook. Matt 7:16 MSG.

proof_Twitter-JoelA'Bell-7-16MSG-MesitiSteveWestResponse_18-01-2016

In reality, the Message is NOT a valid translation of the bible. It’s a paraphrase that is filled with pagan and new age references. Nevertheless, Eugene Peterson did capture  the nature of today’s false teachers rather well –  they DO “exploit the wallet”. This particular scripture attracted Hillsong critic Steve West and others to protest the fact that Hillsong pastor Pat Mesiti DOES exploit Hillsong member’s emotions and their “pocketbook”.

Steve West was the first to respond,

And thus will likely not have offerings at every meeting, conference, cell group and college chapel service.

This led into questions as to why Hillsong’s disgraced pastor Pat Mesiti was acknowledged as a pastor at Hillsong London on Joel A’Bell’s wall. Many people, including Hillsong attendees, were surprised he was reinstated at all and protested other sins of Mesiti to Joel. By this stage, Mesiti was rapidly earning the reputation, world-wide, as an international con-artist from 2009 onwards, with his ongoing endorsement of men renowned for their dubious integrity.

The fact that Mesiti endorsed notorious con-artist “AussieRob” did not help strengthen his reputation as a con-artist. Read more here:

Aussie Rob – Lifestyle trader
LifestyleTrader.com.au (Aussie Rob) Review

This did not stop Joel A’Bell from defending AND endorsing the apparently restored Hillsong “Pastor” Pat Mesiti from speaking at Hillsong London.

Joel Abell Quote

So why was Hillsong allowing Pat Mesiti to speak at Hillsong London – in spite of critics pointing out how Mesiti fulfilled the scripture that Joel A’Bell put up on his FaceBook wall? In fact, this snippet of Pat Mesiti in 2009 was put up in the conversation on Joel Abell’s wall back in 2010:

Source: By speakercoach, Pat Mesiti Millionaire Mindset reveals the best tips on public speaking and presentation skills, YouTube, https://youtu.be/fldjYzfLUxw, Uploaded 16/04/2009. (Accessed 18/01/2016.)

proof_YouTube-Mesiti-EmotionOpensTheChequeBook_18-01-2016

In spite of the evidence put up by these critics, Senior Hillsong pastor, Joel A’Bell, defended Pat Mesiti speaking at Hillsong London in 2010 in his comment section:

“I knew Pat before, during and after his moral failure. Those who don’t know him should keep their comments in closer circles or to themselves. I find these public comments about Pat to be unloving. He is well on track in his restoration…”

“I said to keep it close (or) to your self. They could put their unrelated issues on their own wall. I wouldn’t use your wall to push my pet topics. Would make more sense if I had of posted something about Pat but this just screems of immaturity…”

Throughout this entire conversation, Joel A’Bell did NOT refute the assumption that Pat Mesiti was a Hillsong pastor. His continual defense of Pat Mesiti speaking at Hillsong London only confirmed the fact that Pat Mesiti was still a Hillsong Pastor (or affiliated with Hillsong’s leadership). Furthermore, he defended Pat Mesiti as one of their own.

It is clear that Hillsong, as an organization, was NOT acting in ignorance but validating and treating Pat Mesiti as a RESTORED pastor in their movement. Otherwise, why have him speak as a pastor at Hillsong London?

We note in 2014, Mesiti’s “loyal friend,” Brian Houston said:

“Literally, it didn’t only cost him his ministry, it cost him his marriage, it cost him his home, he lost his home, it cost him everything. The only thing he had was loyal friends and perhaps that’s the greatest thing we can have anyway, is loyal friends.

And there were people who stuck with him, people who I know here in our congregation who stuck with him. I was talking with him yesterday on the phone, actually text messages, same thing these days, and ahhh he was telling me that after years of rebuilding his life, just constantly rebuilding his life that the house he lost that his sin, his shame had cost him, he is on the edge of perhaps buying back.” [Source]

Brian has made it clear. Mesiti is still alive and well as a “restored” Hillsong pastor, he still has close relations with Brian Houston. In fact, Brian Houston used Pat Mesiti an example in this sermon of how one can be restored. Restored into what?

C3 “PASTOR” PAT MESITI:

We’ve also covered how C3 “Pastor” Mesiti spoke at C3 RealMen’s Conference and had no problem speaking on C3’s Positive Hits:

C3 Continues To Endorse Money-Magnet Mesiti

But our main focus is to draw your attention to Pat Mesiti preaching at C3 Church in 2013:

Source: By c3churchtv, C3 Online – 20/10/2013 | Pat Mesiti – The Joseph Generation, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdgdrEMoAK0, Uploaded 21/10/2013. (Accessed 11/08/2014.)

proof_YouTube-PatMesitiC3_06-01-2016

In this specific sermon, not only is what Pat Mesiti saying blasphemous, he also refers to his involvement with Hillsong.

In the sermon above, Mesiti says,

“I said that at Hillsong London at the Freddie Mercury theatre.”

So something tells us Mesiti has not been broadcasting his other Hillsong “pastoral” engagements. Furthermore he states (present tense),

“I have a preacher on every single day… This year I’ve invited Bob Harrison and Pastor Phil Pringle to be our chaplains. This is where we raise the million dollars for missions… On here is Brian Houston. On here are my spiritual and business mentors.”

What is interesting about the sermon above, as Chris Rosebrough reviews it on his program ‘Fighting for the Faith‘, he clearly exposes the prosperity cult theology (and predatory nature) that Mesiti appears to have fine-tuned from his association with long term “pastoral” friends and mentors, Phil Pringle and Brian Houston.

It’s well worth listening to the sermon review to prove that this man is STILL used as an example to follow by Brian Houston. And because his life is a “success story”, one can assume that’s what qualifies people like Pat Mesiti to be pastors in the C3 and Hillsong prosperity cults.

Hee Haw

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PROGRAM SEGMENTS:

• Ed Young’s Hee Haw Sermon
• Bishop Tudor Bismark’s The Big Fish Anointing
• Jim Bakker’s Prophecy Fear Mongering For Dollars
• Sermon Review: The Joseph Generation by Pat Mesiti

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Hee Haw, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2015/5/hee-haw, Published 01/05/2015. (Accessed 06/01/2015.)

Clearly there is NOTHING regenerate or “restored” in Pat Mesiti’s life. The signs were there even before he was charged with assaulting his wife. So why on earth would Hillsong/C3 hold onto him? Why would Hillsong and C3 have him (unbiblically) re-instated as a pastor when there are so many others who could easily replace him?

There has to be more to this than meets the eye.

NOTE: SCREEN GRAB TAKEN ON 18/01/2016.

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Chris Rosebrough interviews Kerri Ferguson

13 Friday Nov 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 Parramatta Scandal

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Brian Houston, c3, c3 church, Chris Rosebrough, Fighting For the Faith, kerri ferguson, Phil Pringle

Chris Rosebrough from Fighting for the Faith recently interviewed Kerri Ferguson on his radio program. If you are not familiar with who Kerri Ferguson is we encourage viewers to read what we have covered on the C3 Penrith scandal so far:

C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 1
C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 2 – The cover-up Scandal that Pringle refused to deal with
C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 3 – Sex, Money, Power
C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 4 – C3 regards pastors gambling worse than pastors defending a pedophile
C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 5 – Phil Pringle’s leadership: an unresolved mess
C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 6 – C3 prophetically manipulating the abused into silence
C3 Parramatta Scandal Part 7 – Letter exposing Pringle covering up paedophilia refusing to help victim

This is footage we have had for a number of years, exposing the cover up of pedophilia in the Australian Christian City Church movement. To this day, NONE of the “pastors” Kerri Ferguson went to for help have EVER bothered checking up on her or apologized for how they refused to help her in her time of need. These “pastors” are Phil Pringle, Brian Houston, Ian Treacy, and Gary Dench.

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Click here to listen to the Fighting for the Faith Episode: Interview with Kerri Ferguson.

Interview with Kerri Ferguson 

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PROGRAM SEGMENTS:

• Interview with Kerri Ferguson

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

http://churchwatchcentral.com/2015/04/15/c3-penrith-scandal-part-2-the-cover-up-scandal-that-pringle-refused-to-deal-with/

Source: By Chris Rosebrough, Interview with Kerri Ferguson, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2015/11/interview-with-kerri-ferguson, Published 12/11/2015. (Accessed 12/11/2015.)

In Australia, some people consider paedophilia to be worse than murder. Don’t forget these “Pastors” faces that allowed these crimes to continue in the name of “Jesus.”

C3- Gary Dench Ian Treacy

03CWCPortrait_Phil Pringle

05CWCPortrait_Brian Houston

If they can get away with covering up paedophilia… then nothing can stop them. These men are before the Royal Commission. Yet Brian Houston and Phil Pringle are influencing our political leaders.

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Vision Builders 2014 Information

02 Saturday May 2015

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c3, Christian City Church, debt, exploitation, expoit, out of control debt, tithe, tithes, vision builders, Vision Builders 2014

The false doctrine on tithing is an illegal doctrine of the church; a legalistic heresy that is promoted by Prosperity Cults who do not rightly handle the different covenants between Ancient Israel and the covenant that God has made with New Testament believers.

Why tithing is not a Christian Doctrine (Part 1)

Unfortunately, the false tithing doctrine is taught in C3 among many other false doctrines. The result has caused serious hardships on individuals and families in the past.

Also, the most vulnerable in the C3 movement are open to financial exploitation. For example, we have warned our readers in the past how C3 offer poor (and potentially grave) advice to people who are struggling financially.

Vision Builders Phil Pringle C3

We have covered C3 pushing this poor financial directive onto its members in the past.

Vision Builders 2010 Magazine
Vision Builders 2011 Magazine
Vision Builders 2012 Brochure
Vision Builder 2013 Brochure

In 2014, C3 decided to broadcast the following instructions on their own myc3church.net website.

Can I give to Vision Builders instead of Tithing?
Vision Builders should be seen as giving ‘over and above’ the Tithe.

…

I am in significant debt, should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?
If you are in ‘out of control’ debt, after your tithe the debt should be your  next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount (or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount is insignificant.

Here is the information in it’s proper context:

How To Be Part Of Vision Builders
ESSENTIAL INFO.

How can I join in prayer?

Pray for all our locations. That people would be drawn to come along, that they would meet Jesus Christ and be set free.

Pray for doors to open through Beyond and C3 Media. That people would be pointed to Jesus Christ through us meeting real needs, bringing hope and preaching the good news to the nations.

Pray for all the Vision Builders. That our Church would continue to be blessed to be a blessing and that we would see the Vision of Sydney, a city for Christ come to pass.

How can you be a part of Vision Builders in 2014?

1. Prayerfully consider the level of giving that you feel is appropriate for you, based on wisdom, prayer and faith. Remember, the philosophy of Vision Builders is equal sacrifice, not equal giving.

2. Make a formal commitment to give on a Vision Builders commitment card throughout June 2014. Alternatively, you can obtain a commitment card at any time from the Information Desk in the church foyer.

Choose your method of fulfillment:

Regular Payment: Making a regular weekly or monthly contribution is one of the most successful ways to fulfill your commitment.

Salary Sacrifice: You can arrange with your employer to make a deduction from your salary each pay before tax.

Direct Credit: This can be arranged through your employer or bank. Your bank can arrange regular transfers that occur automatically. You can also arrange regular payments via Internet Banking. Alternatively, you can choose to make a payment from money currently available or when you receive a work bonus, tax refund or sell an asset.

Online Donation: This is a popular way of giving. Simply visit our website at www.myc3church.net and click on the ‘Online Giving’ tab. Select the ‘Vision Builders’ field, complete the requested information and continue with ‘Next’.

Important Information:

Bank Details:
For use with salary sacrifice and direct transfers.
Account Name: C3 Vision Builders
BSB: 062127 Account Number: 10189658

Taxation Benefits:
All donations in excess of $2 given to C3 Vision Builders ABN 95 002 558 134 are tax deductible. The real cost of your contribution can therefore be significantly less than the amount donated, however please seek advice from your financial advisor. A Tax Receipt will be issued after the end of the Financial Year.

Other Funds:
A fund that does not have tax deductibility status has been set up for those who do not need or wish to take advantage of the taxation benefits. Money given to this Fund can be used for Vision Builder initiatives beyond the purpose approved by the Australian Taxation Office.

The Fund details are as follows:
All Campuses:
‘C3 Vision Builders – Non Deductible’
Please contact accounts@myc3church.net for the bank details.
Information is compliant with current Taxation rulings at time of going to print.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the Vision Builders Program?
The Vision Builders Program is the overarching banner for our Rise & Build, Beyond and Media & Television Initiatives. Vision Builders is responsible for raising the finance needed to facilitate all of these areas of our Church Life.

Can I give to Vision Builders instead of Tithing?
Vision Builders should be seen as giving ‘over and above’ the Tithe.

What if I can’t fulfill my pledge?
Firstly, we encourage people to make realistic pledges. Having done that, we understand that sometimes events happen and for whatever reason people find difficulty in fulfilling their pledge within the timeframe. We suggest that you may still want to fulfill your pledge by breaking it down into smaller amounts over a longer period of time.

I am new to church, should I be giving to Vision Builders? If so, why?
There is no pressure for anyone to give to Vision Builders, nor is there any minimum requirement. New people who would like to give are most welcome, as is anyone who finds that our vision resonates with them.

I am in significant debt, should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?
If you are in ‘out of control’ debt, after your tithe the debt should be your  next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount (or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount is insignificant.

Do you need my details? I wish to remain anonymous.
You may remain anonymous if you wish, and all the details of your giving will be kept confidential. However, you will not be able to claim tax deductibility for your giving as we will be unable to provide you with a record of your contribution, which you will need to submit to the Australian Tax Office.

How do we know where the money goes?
Funds are spent in accordance with the initiatives presented in this brochure and as updated during the year. All our accounts are independently audited annually to ensure compliance, and lodged with ASIC.

Source: Partner With Vision Builders, My C3 Church, http://www2.myc3church.net/vbpartners. (Accessed 02/05/2015.)

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NOTE: SCREEN GRAB TAKEN ON THE 02/05/2015.

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Want to buy Phil Pringle’s ‘anointed’ Splat Pen?

10 Friday Apr 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in Pringle's Business

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c3, c3 church, Christian City Church, huckster, Phil Pringle, splat pen, splat pens

Did you want to buy Phil Pringle’s super cheap anointed splat pen?

This is not a joke. This could have been yours for A$550.00. This product is no longer sold.

C3’s Goldstore advertises,

splat pens

 Splat Pen

Featuring signed original artwork by Phil Pringle from his ‘Life Begins’ collection, each individual writing instrument is meticulously hand-crafted and unique. Vibrant works by Phil Pringle wrap each Splat Pen before it is coated, set in resin and finally turned, polished and waxed for the highest quality finish. Complete with a genuine leather pouch, the Splat Pen brings class and creativity to every occasion.

 Inspired by the possibilities of new life and the intricate beauty of nature, enjoy the experience of making your mark with your own Splat Pen. The fountain pen features a top quality German-made two-tone nib with a genuine iridium point for smooth lines and dependable ink flow. The roller-ball has a ceramic tipped Schmidt cartridge for effortless scribing.

Hand-made with the highest quality components, each Splat Pen features rich 22k gold or Black Titanium hand-cast engraved cap and barrel insets, surrounded by brilliant Rhodium plating. The stunning blend of art, insets and accent bands combine to make this distinct pen of unrivalled beauty – a contemporary version of the traditional fine desk pen.

Source: Phil Pringle Splat Pen, C3Store, https://web.archive.org/web/20100907191738/http://c3store.com/browse/details.asp?ProdID=127971, Accessed 10/04/2015. (Original URL: http://www.c3store.com/browse/details.asp?ProdID=127971. Archived: 07/09/2010.)

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Kong Hee speaking at C3 Church Oxford Falls tomorrow night Tuesday Feb 10, 2015.

09 Monday Feb 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations, Phil Pringle's Connections with Kong Hee, Pringle's False Prophecies

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All In Team Meeting, c3, c3 church, CHC, chc scandal, City Harvest Church, false prophecy, false prophet, Kong Hee, Phil Pringle, Presence Conference, Suntec

Request: We encourage C3 leaders who have concerns about Kong Hee and are  attending this meeting to keep a ‘record’ of what Kong Hee and Phil Pringle say.

We summarise the public lies of Kong Hee, and remind the readers that the next tranche of the trial is underway at the moment.

A “non-exhaustive list of the lies” of Kong Hee

In spite of Kong Hee being publicly exposed for misleading his church, and Singapore media, Phil Pringle still sees no problem with Kong Hee speaking in his churches and conferences. Tomorrow, Phil Pringle has invited Kong Hee to speak at his leaders meeting.

We notice that Phil Pringle appears to be selective as to what information is made public. A few years ago, Phil Pringle ‘blacked out’ his cameras and mislead his church about the ongoing events with the trial and according to an insider, informed his members that C3 was “receiving bad press and wanted the church to get online on twitter and facebook and say good things”.

With Kong Hee speaking this Tuesday night we would like to remind people of this article written by a C3 insider, concerned about Pringle’s secrecy and his insistence that Kong did not copy the way he financially runs C3 church.

“For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest…” (Part 1)

“For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest…” (Part 2)

The C3 Journal advertises the following,

ALL IN Team Night – February 10

C3 Oxford Falls Campus // 7-9pm // Main Auditorium

Ps Phil Pringle and Ps Kong Hee from City Harvest Singapore will be downloading vision, wisdom and encouragement to our leaders and valued team.

You are so welcome if you consider yourself part of our team of dedicated volunteers that make church happen week in and week out.

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Source: News, C3 Church Journal, http://www.c3churchjournal.com/news-on-the-go/2015/2/10/all-in-team-night. Accessed 09/02/2015.

It appears that Phil Pringle will fight for his ‘protege’ all the way. Having ‘laid his cards on the table’, it’s up to C3 members to decide if they want to continue to endorse Kong Hee, despite the ongoing trial and the evidence submitted by Chew Eng Han. Isn’t it in the best interests of all involved to await the outcome of this very serious trial and its very serious charges before exposing the various C3 congregations to Kong Hee as a competent ‘leader’?

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IMPORTANT ARTICLES

Below are older articles exposing how involved Phil Pringle of C3 Church is with his protege Kong Hee. This scandal does not stop at City Harvest Church. People need to hold the same level of scrutiny on Phil Pringle.

The first few articles expose Phil Pringle deliberately mislead his church over Kong Hee’s affairs. The articles that follow will expose:

1. How Phil Pringle prophesied over Kong Hee’s direction in owning SunTec and turning his wife into an intertional popstar.
2. How Phil Pringle used his church and annual Sydney conferences to financially mislead his global audience into financing Kong Hee’s lawyers.
3. How Kong Hee claimed he copied his ministry from Phil Pringle and how this appears to be true from a C3 witness.

PROPHET PRINGLE’S FALSE PROPHECY OVER KONG

Interview With Pringle Offers Insight to His Relations With Kong Hee

Pringle Using His Prophecy Of Kong Hee To Elevate His ‘Prophetic Message’

Kong Hee Again Blames Phil Pringle For SunTec Mess: “… it’s all your fault, Pastor!”

Kong Hee To Phil Pringle: “You created this mess! You’ve Got To Come And Help Us Fix It”

PHIL PRINGLE MISLEADING PEOPLE OVER KONG HEE

Pringle Encouraging CHC Members To Shun Criticism & Promote “Good Guys”

Of Course Pringle Is Uh- Telling The- Uh- Truth About Kong Uh- Hee And Sun- Uh-Ho!

Phil Pringle Misleading His Church Over Kong Hee’s Case

PRESENCE CONFERENCE 2011 KONG HEE SCAM

Prophet Pringle Plundering People’s Pockets For Kong Hee’s Cause

PRESENCE CONFERENCE 2012 KONG HEE SCAM

Where There’s A Phil There’s A Way

PRESENCE CONFERENCE 2013 KONG HEE SCAM

Beyond Words… Pringle Sinks To New Depths At Global Presence Conference 2013

PRESENCE CONFERENCE 2014 KONG HEE SCAM

Phil Pringle’s Kong Job At Presence 2014 (Part 1)

Phil Pringle’s Kong Job At Presence 2014 (Part 2) Hillsong “Stands” with C3 & CHC?

Phil Pringle’s Kong Job At Presence 2014 (Part 3) All faith – no substance

Phil Pringle’s Kong Job At Presence 2014 (Part 4) Kong’s “selfie” sermon.

Phil Pringle’s Kong job at Presence 2014 (part 5): Kong Hee and Phil Pringle Undermining Singaporean law?

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Prophet Pringle’s God-Given 2020 Vision Lie (Part 5) Which C3 leader do you believe?

21 Wednesday Jan 2015

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“I’ve never found that God asks us to do something that is within our means or within our resources. And so the Vision that we have is always going to be bigger than we currently are. They always call for faith and that’s why it’s so exciting because God calls us to do things that are beyond our abilities. So we’re relying on him. and his power to make it happen.”

Source: Phil Pringle, C3 Church Culture Video, Vimeo, http://vimeo.com/61320694, 07/03/2013 at 10:56 PM.

If you are a C3 member and were told that your pastor, Phil Pringle, has been constantly lying to you about receiving direct visions and instructions from God just so he can manipulate you, what would you think? Would you shrug it off and keep attending C3? Would you feel disgusted that Phil Pringle abused your trust in him as a leader? Would you feel unclean that you are serving a man who is using your God to manipulate you for his own selfish ends?

LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES FROM C3 LEADERSHIP

Let’s look at the facts.  For years Phil Pringle has been hell-bent on trying to deceive his congregation into believing that God gave him his 2020 Vision. Remember when Phil Pringle said, “God has given us a strategy and as we follow that pathway, we will find ourselves expanding right around the world?”.

The fact is that Phil Pringle lied.

God did not give Phil Pringle the 2020 Vision, nor did God give Phil Pringle and his leadership team a “strategy” to fulfill his 2020 Vision.

Christian Schwarz helped Pringle and his staff formulate the 2020 Vision and various strategies to see this come to pass. If C3 want to lay claim that God used the NCD to give Pringle the God-given 2020 Vision, then Pringle and C3 leadership still lied by omission. Why portray Phil Pringle in all their propaganda as a prophet receiving a timely vision from God to plant 1000 churches by the year 2020?

CHRISTAN A. SCHWARZ AND NATURAL CHURCH DEVELOPMENT?

The truth is that Christian Schwarz, the operations manager of the Natural Church Development Organization, helped Pringle and his staff formulate the 2020 Vision as well as the various strategies to see this Vision come to pass.  A few years ago Schwarz interviewed Pringle’s close friend, Gordon Moore. Moore is the man who is speaking as a representative of the C3 Church movement in the video below. In this interview Gordon discloses where the 2020 Vision originally came from as well as the source of their  church growth strategies. The proof that Pringle’s “God Given 2020 Vision,” as well as the strategies to carry it out, did not come from God is in the following statement from Gordon:

“We have formulated as a result of all of this [NCD workshops] our 2020 Vision which is to have a thousand churches with a average size of five hundred.”

So why hasn’t Phil Pringle and his leadership team told the truth about the fact that they were being led by the Natural Church Development strategies of Christian A Schwarz? Why lie? Might it be that  Phil Pringle thought that if he convinced his congregation that it was God’s vision rather than his own that the people would support it?  Who is Phil Pringle really trusting to lead his church?

These are serious questions considering the fact that people at C3 genuinely believe that Pringle is a prophet and gets direct visions, (like the 2020 Vision), from God.  Trusting in, and following, false teachers and false prophets is one of the ways the devil keeps people from true faith and the true repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Moore also revealed his thoughts what would happen if C3 did not fulfill the Phil Pringle’s God-given 2020 Vision:

“However if we don’t, we’ll be pretty happy with the journey because we’re going to be healthy on the way through. But our feeling is that we’re probably going to do pretty well  with our vision.”

There you have it folks. Gordon Moore does not care if Phil Pringle gets away with lying in the name of God to manipulate the tens of thousands throughout the C3 movement. If they fail the 2020 Vision, as long as people are “pretty happy with the journey”, why should Gordon Moore and Phil Pringle worry about desecrating the integrity and character of God? How can anyone in C3 feel “pretty happy” when these men boldly lie in the name of God to manipulate them?

If a prophet claims to speak and see on behalf of God and their claims do not come to pass, the bible in the Old Testament commanded that the false prophet be stoned. If these false prophets are found in the church, they are too be excommunicated and condemned for their lies and blasphemy. However, such action in C3 culture is considered to be “unloving”. As we have documented continually, C3 loves their false prophet to the point that they will demonise and slander those that question their prophets behaviours outside their church.

Our question to C3 members who wish to defend the blatant lies of Phil Pringle:

If Pringle comes to you and rips you off blind with his lies and false visions, why do you put up with it?

We will be looking more at the Natural Church Development organization as time progresses.

Below this video is the transcript.

Source: Results of NCD in C3 Churches, Results of NCD in C3 Churches, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzIPWHQLydE, Published on 14/08/2012. (Accessed 17/01/2014.)

TRANSCRIPT

“Results of Natural Church Development in C3 Churches in Australia”

Christian: “We just spent a wonderful evening with Gordon Moore  here in the restaurant in Brisbane. But he discussed and shared a lot about experiences that this church has made. Uh, Gordon, your representing the C3 Churches which is according to our research, the healthiest denomination that we are aware of. At the same time the denomination that applies the principles of NCD most consistently. Can you share about what roll National Church Development play in your overall strategy.”

Gordon Moore: “Uh, sure Christian. First of all I’d like to say thank you very much for coming to Australia. We’ve been really looking forward to sharing with you and hearing from you. Um. NCD has probably been the one of the greatest tools we have encountered. I guess first of all in our journey as a movement of churches we started out very organically. Uh, naturally with a move of God and just seeking to plant churches. We found that NCD helped us bring that empirical evidence of growth and health in the life of the church. So our movement has embraced NCD as our number one health analysis tool. We use it in oversight. We encourage all our churches to do this. But we go further than that. We actually take the results and the consultation that comes from your team and seek to apply that to the local church level and also the nation and to all our churches in the movement.

Christian: “Let’s us ask real quickly. Where do you expect your movement to be in the year 2020?”

Gordon Moore: “Funny you should say that Christian. We’ve formulated as a result of all of this our 2020 Vision which is to have a thousand churches with a average size of five hundred. The thousand churches is our quantitative vision that we look for growth, we look for the kingdom of God to grow in advance and also the five hundred average size is a quality measurement. Where after a “kind-of” church. A church that ranges somewhere between four hundred and eight hundred, that has a team that is viable, that has the resources to go out, plant churches and fulfill the commission of Christ.”

Christian: “And if we meet again in eight years from now, will you say, ‘We have arrived there’ or do you sense that you will be far away from that?”

Gordon Moore: “We’re on track to meet that. However if we don’t, we’ll be pretty happy with the journey because we’re going to be healthy on the way through. But our feeling is that we’re probably going to do pretty well  with our vision. I mean if you aim at nothing you’re gonna hit it every time, right? So we believe that having a vision is important but the most important thing is that we are vitally connected to Christ and our lives our healthy. And that reflects in our churches as well. That our churches are healthy communities that are growing and manifesting Christ to a needy world.”

Source: Results of NCD in C3 Churches, Results of NCD in C3 Churches, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzIPWHQLydE, Published on Aug 14, 2012. (Accessed 17/01/2014.)

We will be looking more at the Natural Church Development organisation as time progresses.

RELATED ARTICLES

Prophet Pringle’s God-Given 2020 Vision Lie (Part 1)

Prophet Pringle’s God-Given 2020 Vision Lie (Part 2)

Prophet Pringle’s God-Given 2020 Vision Lie (Part 3)

Prophet Pringle’s God-Given 2020 Vision Lie (Part 4)

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How Caroline Leaf’s your brain after a C3 Woman’s conference…

18 Tuesday Nov 2014

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations

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[Edit 18/11/2014: We have re-written this article to disclose more insightful screen grabs and expose the origins of Caroline Leaf’s teachings.]

THE UNQUALIFIED LEADING THE UNQUALIFIED

It should infuriate Christians that unqualified men endorse unqualified men at the expense of shunning qualified men who actually equip Christians with the wonderful saving power of God’s Word. What we are dealing with in Christianity today are outright frauds parading false credentials and deliberately refusing people entry into heaven due to their own Babylonian empires.

Jesus does not tolerate those who are false teachers in his kingdom – he calls them thieves and says that people like Phil Pringle, Chris Pringle and Caroline Leaf are here to kill, steal and destroy. Look at how Jesus portrayed the false teachers to their own faces in John 10:1-6 (emphasis ours):

“Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.

Caroline Leaf may be a qualified “cognitive neuroscientist with a PhD in Communication Pathology specializing in Neuropsychology”. But that does not mean she enters into the sheep pen by jumping the biblical requirements laid down by Christ and His Apostles.

According to Christ, His Apostles and God’s Holy Word – Dr Caroline Leaf is a fraud.

She has complete disregard for the qualifications of a pastor and teacher; opposes the teachings in scripture about women teaching and brings both the Christian faith and the fields of neuroscience/psychology into disrepute. This makes her an incredibly dangerous woman who is promoting rebellion in the church against God and His Word.

What makes this situation worse is that Phil and Chris Pringle encourage the Leaf in her fraudulent and rebellious ministry. Here is Phil and Chris Pringle with “Dr” Caroline Leaf.

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To make matters worse, here is Kenneth and Gloria Copeland with “Dr” Caroline Leaf. It’s really important to examine what she teaches us about herself here:

Taping with two giants of faith – Kenneth and Gloria Copeland! I love this wonderful couple from whom I have learned so much over the years. What an honor to be on their BVOV broadcast!!

Source: Caroline Leaf, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/tQ73rAhz7a/. (Accessed 18/11/2014.)

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Even though we now know where Caroline got her teaching from, do you know why these endorsements are so scandalous?

Well in case you forgot, Phil Pringle publicly endorses Kenneth Copeland as a prophet of God.

Phil Pringle And Kenneth Copeland

It should not surprise you that both Phil and Chris Pringle and Kenneth and Gloria Copeland push Occult New Thought/Metaphysical cult teachings.

Phil Pringle Influenced By Occult/ New Thought/ Metaphysical Cult Teachings

And what makes this issue worse? Phil Pringle, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland all have false theological credentials.

Congo Line Of Unqualified Ministers Endorsed By Phil Pringle

It’s a network of shams and this is what Jesus hates. Look at what Jesus accuses the false teachers of being and observe how he opposes them in John 10:7-10 (emphasis ours):

Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. 

It was always in the heart of God that the Christian Church per se, be a safe and wholesome sheep fold – not a goat’s pen. So how did we get to where the church is today?

We allowed false prophets and hirelings to “climb up some other way”. We didn’t protect the fold from interlopers and infiltrators. We forgot to shut the back door on these false profit ministries. Remember, the wolves come dressed up in SHEEP’S CLOTHING… ( and when they are on days off, they wear Amani suits…)

Why is it that Christians put up with these “thieves”?

If you attend C3 Church, please consider the words of your Lord and Saviour made against your “pastors”. This is not our accusation against Phil and Chris Pringle. This is your God in His Holy Word exposing and accusing Phil Pringle, Dr Caroline Leaf and the Copeland’s, of acting outside the means he has instituted.

Who are we to elevate man above what God has established? We sincerely ask you to pray and consider the gravity of Jesus’ words.

ARE YOU GROWING HEALTHY TREE THOUGHTS?

We do not know what Caroline Leaf actually taught at C3’s Every Woman’s Conference. However, her instagram teachings may give us a clue.

There are photos of Caroline Leaf teaching at C3 Women’s Conference with a small tree on stage on her Instagram.

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This is her commentary while she was at C3 EveryWomen’s Conference.

It is with our phenomenal minds that we understand the truths set down in our spirits!
Source: http://instagram.com/p/u_pz5TBzwc/ (Accessed 18/11/2014.)

When we think with our mind we change our brain! We control our brain; our brain does not control us! #beingledbythespirit #neuroplasticity #renewing themind
Source: http://instagram.com/p/vCHTByBz4M/ (Accessed 18/11/2014.)

And here are just a snippet of some of the crazy things she has taught.

DR LEAF SAYS…

… You can merge Roman Catholic Mysticism, New Age practices and neuroscience together and still call it Christianity!

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… Research shows you are pre-wired to achieve a unique and divine purpose.

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… When you babble… one goes through a… spiritual frontal lobotomy?

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… When you are having a spiritual frontal lobotomy… you are getting wisdom?

proof_InstagramCaroline-FrontalLobotomyEqualsWisdom_18-11-2014... You should embrace Gnosticism 101.

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… your grand kids are ugly because you didn’t control your mind?

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.. we can unlock the magic in our brains! (Can anyone explain to us WHY she uses this verse?)

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However, an honest assessment of the situation would admit that there is no ‘magic’ in our brains – only confusion, depression and anxiety. Without Christ in our lives, as Lord and Saviour, we are bankrupt and devoid of any genuine spirituality, and we tend to flounder around on an ocean of guilt, fear and a distinct lack of understanding as to our true position of being the redeemed of the Lord.

Unqualified “impastors” like Caroline Leaf are only in it for the glory, the money and the prestige of having “made it” in the current NAR/WOF streams of “ministry”. Certainly, her attempt to fuse Hyper Faith and her own interpretation of medical science, in no way allows her the moral license to teach this unbiblical rant from the pulpit, as if she were a qualified pastor or teacher, who holds the word of God in high esteem and the traditions of men in contempt.

Lastly, here is another curly-whirly our beloved Lady Leaf drops,

For the LOTR fans😃.. Mac and I are standing in the exact spot where Arwin was holding Frodo facing the Nazgul…facing our fears is difficult but not impossible when we rest in God!

Source: Caroline Leaf, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/tV3kkBBz1G/, 18/11/2014.

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THE RESULTS AFTER RECEIVING DR CAROLINE’S TEACHING?

Sadly, if you apply the teachings of Dr Leaf – you too could end up becoming a leaf like Chris Pringle.

thanks to all who came to @everywomangathering – remember you are growing healthy tree thoughts!!!! Here is a pic to remind you all how beautiful you are- green & flourishing – planted in Gods House🌳 biggest blessings & hugs girls!! 😘😘😘 I love you ❤️
Source: http://instagram.com/p/u7eJpWLfv-/, Accessed 18/11/2014.

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Chris Pringle also published this:

hope you are sprouting good thoughts today!!? ❤️ ha!
Source: http://instagram.com/p/vYIca0Lfut/, Accessed 18/11/2014.

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Poor Chris! How will she ever recover after receiving this treatment from Dr Leaf?

Sadly, it is important we heed the warning’s Jesus gave the people against the Pharisees, against the Pringle’s, against the Copelands, against Caroline Leaf and against any other false teacher. It’s only a matter of time before the pit swallows them. Now is the time to outreach to these people and see them repent and turn to Jesus before it is too late.

Jesus said,

“You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:

“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:7-14

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Airbrushed Amanda Wells – A huckster like no other?

10 Monday Nov 2014

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Your best life with Amanda Wells…

“The Lord had spoken to me to start to train people…”

“Still not convinced???”

“You should consider this an investment, and a wise investment at that!”

These are the words from our beloved impastor Amanda Wells from our previous article.

Introducing Airbrushed Amanda Wells

As you can see, Amanda is queen of all things gimmicky. She is a woman who thinks she hears from God but seems unable to form a coherent thought. Oddly enough, we have seen this similar erratic behaviour broadcast from behind the C3 “church” pulpit from Phil and Chris Pringle.

Chris Rosebrough pointed out the erratic, non-coherent mind of Phil Pringle when he reviewed Phil Pringle’s 2010 sermon. Cindy Stokes offered this observation when she critiqued Chris Pringle at Presence Conference 2012 (this was the sermon where Chris bought a tree on stage and started talking to it):

“The title of Chris Pringle’s message is “The Scent of Water”. Before you write off that title as ridiculous, in all fairness, that phrase does appear in Job 14, but she fails to present a message that really has anything to do with water or anything that water represents. Instead, she centers the message around the idea of seeds and trees. Sometimes the seed is a dream, sometimes it’s a person. Sometimes the tree is your dream, sometimes it’s you and sometimes it’s the church. Sometimes you’re supposed to bury your seed and let it die. Sometimes you’re supposed to be the seed and reach up to the “scent of water”. Sometimes you’re supposed to shut it in a woodshed and forget about it. (You think I’m kidding, don’t you. Just wait and see for yourself.) As erratic as her imagery may be, her speaking style is more so. I lost count of the times she interrupted herself. Chris Pringle is a world class bunny trailer.” [Source]

In our first article on Airbrush Amanda, we stated,

“With this kind of culture in the C3 and Hillsong movements, an Amanda Wells type of person is bound to arise and embody the nature of these cultures.”

This article will explore this statement further and look at some of the products Amanda presents. To play it safe we made a serious claim that Amanda Wells, “lies and blasphemes God to further her own selfish ambitions”. It’s only appropriate that we back this claim up.

Where would we be without Amanda Wells and Phil Pringle?

You Can BUY the Anointing 

When researching Amanda, we couldn’t help notice this rather hilarious page:

Amanda’s Products

On this page, Amanda writes,

Amanda Wells’ anointed and life-changing CD’s, DVD’s and Books will inspire and equip you to fulfil your God-given assignment, whether it’s in the Marketplace or in the Church arena.

Check out the Product of the Week and Specials.

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

What does this sound like? Don’t you think this sounds like the gimmicks you would see at Phil Pringle’s C3 services and Presence Conferences?

Remember we were told that you can buy the anointing of Phil Pringle to hang on your walls at home or at your work.

You Too Can BUY Phil Pringle’s ‘Godly’ Anointing!

Phil Pringle the “scam” artist?

Let’s look at some of Amanda Well’s “anointed and life-changing CD’s, DVD’s”.

REFUTING AMANDA’s SIMONESS OFFICE

Before tackling her merchandise, we would like to arm you with these scriptures first. Don’t you think Amanda Wells fits the role of a false prophet rather well?

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:1-3

How can you discern if Amanda Well is true or not? Consider this bold statement by the Apostle Paul when he was dealing with false prophets and teachers in Corinth. Does she contradict or undermine the writings of Paul?

If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 1 Corinthians 14:36-38

How do you think Jesus and his Apostles dealt with false prophets making merchandise of people?

[…] Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’c ? But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’” Mark 11:15-17

But there was a man named Simon, who had previously practiced magic in the city and amazed the people of Samaria, saying that he himself was somebody great…

Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money, saying, “Give me this power also, so that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.” Acts 8:9,18-23

AMANDA’S ANOINTED MERCHANDISE

In her DVD The 9TH Hour SEASON, Ms. Wells advertises how you can die like Jesus just so you can move boldly in your 9th hour! Have you stepped into your 9th hour of atonement season yet? If not, buy your own nails, crucifix, hammer, curtain and this quality set of CD’s and DVD’s from Amanda Wells.

The 9TH Hour SEASON

1 CD and 2 DVD’s
In Matthew 27, it says Jesus hung on the Cross and in the 6th hour, the world was plunged into darkness. Then in the 9th hour, the veil in the Temple was rent and the graves were open.

Today as the world is enveloped by an economic and environmental crisis and many have felt their dreams have sunk into the depths of the grave. The Church has entered a new season, the 9th hour!

In this teaching taken from Acts 3, you will see how important it is to understand the dynamics of the 9th hour and how to move into it.

You will see were it is a season of:
* Suddenlies
* Miracles
* New partnerships and renewed sponsorships, and much, much more! If you don’t understand the dynamics of this new season you could be arrested in one season for too long and miss the fullness of this new season.

Don’t let this season pass you by!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

Has God stopped in your life? Is Jesus stuck in your yesterday? Do you want him to change so he can also be the God of today and forever? For ten dollars, Amanda can teach you how you can take God off your leash so he can become unstoppable in your life!

UNSTOPPABLE GOD

COST: $10.00

On this CD Amanda shares how our God when unleashed is unstoppable. He has unstoppable power, unstoppable presence, unstoppable possibility and an unstoppable plan. Therefore All things are possible!

Don’t miss this CD, because when He reveals His unstoppable power, He unstitches us and unstoppable worship is unleashed!!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

Do you want another anointing to hang around your neck so you can have the same grammatical brilliance as Amanda Wells? Then you get her Cyrus Anointing for TEN DOLLARS!!!

Cyrus Anointing

2 CD set

COST: $20.00

In this 2 hour teaching, Amanda will open the scriptures concerning Cyrus, King of Persia. Who was he, what was his past. How did he effect the marketplace and begin a transfer of wealth in the nations.

Is God releasing a Cyrus anointing in the Body of Christ today! Don’t miss this teaching, there is so much revelation in here you will have to listen over and over!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

If you are a Christian and have not received the saving revelation of God’s grace, Ms. Wells is here to save the day! Who cares that “God does not show favoritism”! (Acts 10:34.) Who cares if Christians “receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ”! (Romans 5:17.)

In this DVD, Amanda will teach you how to “process” God’s favour and how it can be “activated in your life”. Ms. Wells knows how to work for her grace and now she wants to help you too!

Throw your bible out the window and get ready to hear this impastor teach how God’s Favour can suck people into your own personal vaccum-cleaner anointing! Embrace Mandy’s Twilight Zone as you unlock the “7 dimensions of the Spirit” through “Favour”!

So be astonished! Be sure to quickly desert God “who called you in the grace of Christ” and turn to Mandy’s different good news— “not that there is another one” (Galatians 1:6-7).

DIVINE FAVOUR
COST: $25.00

This is the Day of the favour of the Lord! Once you understand the process of Favour and how it is released and activated in your life, it begins to change the quality of your life. Learn how:
* Favour attracts people to you and then supernaturally releases an anointing from you.
* How favour is related to the fear of the Lord.
* How when you operate in favour you release the 7 dimensions of the Spirit of the Lord.
* How Favour affects the atmosphere around you.

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

In her “Heaven Won’t Wait” DVD, “Amanda can’t wait” to get over teaching the MYSTERY of the cross and preach Amanda and Amanda glorified. Just like Jesus, Amanda wants to preach how she died and rose again!

Although the Apostles were big on preaching the mysteries of Christ, Amanda wants to preach about the mysteries of her experience in heaven in this amazing DVD! She will teach you things she sees in heaven that not even the bible records! Move over Jesus – her testimony is a MUST buy!

Heaven Won’t Wait
COST: $25.00

In this DVD Amanda shares a teaching about the mystery of the cross. Afterward she shares how in 1995 she died while on the operating table undergoing a complicated 10 hour operation. In this teaching Amanda shares her supernatural experience and the mysteries uncovered while there.

You will find out what words from Jesus had immense impact on her life and imparted a fire in her bones that causes the passion many see today!

Source: Amanda Wells, Wells Ministries, Amanda’s Products, https://web.archive.org/web/20100713015954/http://www.wellsministries.com/amandasproducts.htm, Accessed 09/11/2014.

The only thing we can think people can get when they buy and listen to Ms. Well’s products is a spiritual frontal lobotomy. Why do it?

Jesus said that false teachers like Amanda Wells and Phil Pringle are thieves and that, “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full” (John 10:10). Jesus has come to give us HIS life. And the abundant life he has given us is His eternal life. Yet for some reason, these frauds have the audacity to think they can replace or even improve Christ’s offer.

In all seriousness, what can these false teachers offer Christians that Christ and His Word can’t? The answer: themselves. And what is tragic is that these false teachers (just like Simon “The Great”), operate out of insecurity “gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity”.

It is time the church used the words of Peter against these false teachers saying, “Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you”.

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Hiding the C3 Asheville scandal by replacing its oversight?

24 Friday Oct 2014

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asheville, c3, c3 church, c3 church asheville, C3 ChurchAsheville, C3 Hub, Chris Rosebrough, Christian City Church, Fightin For the Faith, Instagram, Jurgen, Jurgen Matthesius, Matthesius, Phil Pringle, Pringle, Rosebrough

To gain the background of the C3 Asheville scandal, please read these articles:

C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor Facing Prison (Part 1)
C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 Pastor “Pleads Guilty In Bank Fraud Case” (Part 2)
C3 Asheville Scandal – Sweetmans Do Nothing Against Fraudulent C3 Pastor? (Part 3)

C3 Asheville Scandal – Four “People… Have Pleaded Guilty” Including “[C3] Minister… Nicholas Dimitris” (Part 4)
C3 Asheville Scandal – C3 ‘Pastor’ Nick Dimitris: The Liar (Part 5)
C3 Asheville Scandal – Massive Financial Judgment Against C3 Asheville Pastor Nick Dimitris (Part 6)
C3 Asheville Scandal – While Dean’s Playing Slick, Nick’s In The Knick (Part 7)
C3 Asheville Scandal – The Wolf & The Ostrich (Part 8)

It appears Phil Pringle and C3 has once again proven that they can sweep any scandal under the ever-expanding C3 rug.

Jurgen Matthesius put the following up on his Instagram account,

@philpringle & @chrisapringle honoring@deansweetman & @jillsweetman for 15 years of amazing leadership! #c3americas2014

Source: Jurgmeister, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/sLuOOjCZcY/, Accessed 02/09/2014.

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‘C3 Church Hub’ also commented on this event,

| LEGACY | Tonight we honoured @deansweetman &@jillsweetman for 14 years as the Americas Overseers for C3. We are excited to have @lornetebbutt &@kellytebbutt as the overseers for Canada and@jurgmeister & @leannematthesius as the overseers for USA. The future is bright in the Americas! #2020vision #c3churchhub #c3vegas2014

Source: c3churchhub, Instagram, http://instagram.com/p/sLz6fIq56z/, Accessed 02/09/2014.

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If you click on the above screengrabs, you can see photos of the farewell/’passing on the baton’ ceremony.

ABOUT DEAN SWEETMAN

The C3 ‘leadership’ facade revealed on Instagram demonstrates just how questionable the C3 ‘evangelical industrial complex’ is. Did Dean Sweetman plant churches? Yes. But did Dean Sweetman lead C3 through “15 years of amazing leadership”?

The Sweetmans have 5 churches currently in –
Lawrenceville
Milton (North Atlanta)
Siverlake (LA)
North Hollywood (LA)
Grayson (Atlanta)
But at least 11 of Dean Sweetman’s C3 church plants or “grafts” that we know of, have failed, leaving a trail of hurt and broken people in their wake, including several divorced and bankrupt pastors. These broken people were members of C3 churches in Vegas, Walton County, Flowery Branch and Asheville.

In spite of the Sweetman’s obvious bad oversight, Jurgen Matthesius honours them for “15 years of amazing leadership”.

We should ask, does this give us insight to Jurgen Matthesius’ leadership integrity for the future?

ABOUT JURGEN MATTHESIUS

Jurgen Matthesius, pastor of C3 Church San Diego is the new C3 Church Americas Overseer. And quite frankly, this is the worst thing Phil Pringle could have done.

Is he even qualified to have oversight of a large numbers of churches that fall under the C3 Americas banner? The answer is a resounding ‘no’!

For a review of Jurgen Matthesius’ preaching, listen to this critique by Chris Rosebrough from Fighting for the Faith:

Fractured Bible Stories

Click Here to Download this episode

Program segments:

• Fractured Bible Stories with Robert Hotchkin, Jurgen Matthesius and David Crank
• Sermon Review: Pursuing Your Weird by Brian Manley at Narrate Church
Email your questions or comments to: talkback@fightingforthefaith.com

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Fractured Bible Stories, Fighting for the Faith, http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2014/08/fractured-bible-stories.html, Published 28/08/2014. (Accessed 05/09/2014.)

ABOUT PHIL PRINGLE

And now onto Phil Pringle.

Rather than help restore the sheep ruined by C3 Pastor, and now convicted felon, Nick Dimitris, did Phil Pringle deliberately turn a blind eye and change the C3 Church Americas Overseer to deal with the problem? Is he hoping this action may solve the issue at C3 Asheville (now called Asheville United)?

This move actually makes us wonder just how much involvement Phil Pringle had in assisting Dean Sweetman with his handling of the C3 Asheville scandal. Did he, like Pontius Pilate, wash his hands of the matter, and let Dean take full responsibility?

Can we assume he knew full well of the C3 Asheville scandal? Otherwise why did he get involved with the ceremonial transfer of the C3 oversight? And why was Dean Sweetman’s response to the C3 Asheville scandal, so similar to Phil Pringle’s ongoing responses to the CHC/Kong Hee scandal Phil Pringle is associated with (as CHC advisory pastor)? If our assessment is right – then, like Dean Sweetman, Phil Pringle is just as responsible for not dealing with the criminal behaviour of C3 pastor Nick Dimitris much sooner.

Was Dean just imitating the methods and behaviour of his spiritual mentor, Phil Pringle?

But here’s the irony. While it appears that Phil Pringle is trying to distance the C3 movement from the C3 Asheville scandal, he is still more than happy to work with and be endorsed by his own mentor, good friend and convicted felon, David Yonggi Cho.

“Dr Phil Pringle is an honoured member of The Board of Directors for ‘Church Growth International’, and I have had the pleasure of knowing his great faith and trust in the Lord as he and his lovely wife are moving onward and upward with The Lord Jesus Christ” Dr Yonggi Cho, Chairman ‘Church Growth International’

Source: David Yonggi Cho, Phil Pringle, My C3 Church, http://www2.myc3church.net/phil-pringle, (Accessed 06/09/2014.)

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Well done, Phil Pringle and Dean Sweetman! Only great prophets and overseers like you can absolve all responsibility and issues at C3 Asheville (and CHC) but foster a culture of unquestionable loyalty to questionable men.

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