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Vision Builder 2013 Brochure

13 Thursday Jun 2013

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Vision Builders Phil Pringle C3

Here is the latest Vision Builders booklet.

C3 Vision Builders Booklet 2013

If you would like to find this document on the myc3church.com website, scroll over the button at the top of the page titled ‘Community’ and click ‘Vision Builders’.

proof_myc3church-VBflyerguide_12-06-2013When the next page loads, scroll down the page until you hit “Download the brochure”.

proof_myc3church-VBflyerguide2_12-06-2013It will take you to the Vision Builders pdf.

Our first article on C3 Church Watch was pointing out Phil Pringle’s Vision Builders Campaign was exploiting C3’s poorest members. Sadly, this hasn’t changed.

In our third article ever on C3 ChurchWatch we raised our concern with ‘Christians Against Poverty’ (CAP) working alongside the immoral nature of the C3 cult. We do admire the work CAP does in people’s lives. However, we would strongly suggest that CAP would distance themselves from Christian City Church Oxford Falls. Why?

In the 2013 ‘Vision Builders’ brochure, C3 writes about their achievements through CAP. They now consider CAP’s achievements as their own.

“Christians Against Poverty

Last year, 100 families struggling financially were assisted through our 2 centres. As a result, many people received Christ for the first time. In

January we launched our new City Campus CAP Centre, with Monica Olander as the Manager.Since beginning our ministry with CAP we have assisted 490 families, and have seen 130 decisions for Christ.”

Source: Vision Builders 2013 Brochure, http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/C3-Vision-Layout-FINAL4-optimised.pdf, pg. 6. (Accessed 12/06/2013.)

So CAP has led 130 people to Christ? What’s wrong with CAP doing this? Nothing is wrong if members of the CAP are genuinely concerned leading people to Jesus Christ. However, they are leading these people into a Word of Faith cult that scams people of the little money they have. This is tragic.

We have enough evidence to say that the C3 institution preaches a different gospel and binds people to give sacrificial financial offerings so God can bless them materially. As Dr Choo said about CHC, so too are his words applicable to C3 Oxford Falls: “This is not Christianity. This is not the gospel. This is a SCAM.” Since when is it right to exploit people who are in “out-of-control” debt?

Sadly, this undoes the wonderful work of CAP. The CAP are only furthering the support of destroying people’s financial future by working with the C3 cult. The proof of this is in this Vision Builder 2013 booklet. C3 writes,

“I am in significant debt, should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?

If you are in ‘out of control’ debt, after your tithe the debt should be your next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount (or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount is insignificant.”

Source: Vision Builders 2013 Brochure, http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/C3-Vision-Layout-FINAL4-optimised.pdf, pg. 13. (Accessed 12/06/2013.)

So why would the CAP endorse a cult that teaches it’s members to give money they don’t have to ‘the vision’ of Phil Pringle? The idea behind giving money to Phil Pringle’s prophetic vision is that God will materially bless the giver. You will not find this ‘Christian’ teaching anyway in scripture and is nothing more than a financial con job.

This is not the first time the C3 cult has decided to financially exploit it’s poorest members. This is the fourth year the C3 cult has had this information in it’s Vision Builders campaign material. You’d think by this stage they would have removed it.

Instead we have continually recorded C3 Church exploiting their financially struggling members in their heavily marketed Vision Builders campaigns.

Vision Builders 2012 Brochure

Vision Builders 2011 Magazine

Vision Builders 2010 Magazine

Why are Christians in C3 Church not concerned about this? Why is CAP supporting C3 Church? Are they not aware that the people they are taking out of poverty are bought back into poverty when they are introduced to the C3 cult? Why is Phil Pringle exploiting the poorest people in his congregation?

How is this loving?

 

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What Are ‘Christians Against Poverty’ (CAP) Doing At C3?

25 Tuesday Oct 2011

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations

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Christians Against Poverty do wonderful work taking Christian people out of poverty. Churches should work with CAP. I fully support what CAP do. That said, the CAP need to be mindful who they associate themselves with.

CAP says,

“Christians Against Poverty (CAP) is a national debt counselling charity working through a network of centres based in local churches. CAP offers hope and a solution to anyone in debt through its unique, in-depth service. CAP aims to show God’s love in action by providing sustainable poverty relief through free debt counselling, advice and practical help.

CAP Money
CAP Money is a revolutionary 3 week course designed to empower individuals to regain control of their finances through professional and practical support from your church. For more information, please contact the partnership team on 02 4914 0597.
”

(From: http://www.capaust.org/)

If you clicked on the thumbnail, you would have noticed that CAP links to an article here: http://www.capaust.org/news.php?action=show&news_id=189

This is the video that CAP put up:

In light of this odd bond, are the CAP aware of how C3 treats it’s members financially? Pringle says in the above video, “One of the greatest things that happen… is that people are coming to Christ! People are meeting the Lord and then they get established at church, they start following Christ and we’ve had- not just one or two- no-no. They bring the whole family.” (00:26)

So through the CAP (established on C3 premises), Pringle says that people are now going to his C3 church, bringing their families. He says later,

“Nichola Gibb, one of our great, great people in our church- she’s a regional leader? [John Kirkby: Yes.] Yeah. And so, if we can get that into church life, I found that acts of kindness open peoples hearts even more then miracles. And they feel like they’re looked after and helped in so many ways. And then- you know money is SUCH a problem in people’s worlds! Get that under control ‘n discipline will spill out into all sorts of other areas of their lives and help get on the pathway that is going to be just setting them up for success in life.”(00:45-01:23)

This dialogue is interesting because Pringle acknowledging he is fully aware that he has access to peoples hearts through these ‘acts of kindness’. CAP purposely leads people out of their poverty. On their ‘About Us’ page, you can check out their ‘Core Values’ to read the following: http://www.capaust.org/about.php?page=corevalues

GODLY FINANCES – imparting biblical wisdom for financial freedom

Releasing people from poverty into a life characterised by faith, generosity and God’s abundant provision

FAITH – knowing that God will provide everything we need

Being sure and certain that God will provide everything we need: strength, motivation and resources to accomplish our vision

JUSTICE – standing up for the poor and disempowered

Bringing justice to those in poverty and debt who do not have the power or influence to change things by themselves; being fair to both client and creditor

LOCAL CHURCH – partnering with local churches

Partnering with local churches so they can effectively help people in their communities out of debt and poverty and so our clients can experience the love of God through His family, the church

LOVE & COMPASSION – expressing God’s love in practical ways

Showing God’s love and compassion to those in financial difficulties through a practical service which will see them lifted out of debt into a whole new life and destiny

SALVATION – seeing people come into a saving relationship with Jesus

Bringing an understanding of God’s love for people so they have an opportunity to believe and come into an eternal saving relationship with Jesus Christ

Pringle seems to say that money would still be a problem even after CAP have helped people with financial difficulties. Pringle says that once they are established in a church after CAP’s work, ‘control ‘n discipline will spill out into all sorts of other areas of their lives’ AND ‘help get on the pathway that is going to be just setting them up for success in life’. He mentioned a woman already being established in his church. I’m assuming Pringle is speaking first hand here about families getting saved at his C3 Church, (otherwise he would not have mentioned this).

They are established on Pringle’s C3 Property. Pringle is now associated with a great ministry. But does John Kirkby, the head of CAP, really want to be treated as a tool by the C3 movement? C3 seems to completely go against what they stand for. When Pringle says a Christian’s  ‘discipline will spill out into all sorts of other areas of their lives and help get on the pathway that is going to be just setting them up for success in life’, we need to understand that he means Christians are disciplined in tithing and sacrificial giving. Tithing is giving 10% of one’s finances to the Pringle’s ministry. Sacrificial giving is giving a sacrificial amount of money to Pringle’s ministry.

At 01:56, Pringle refers to CAP as a ‘powerful tool’ in reaching out to the community. The CAP do a great job and lead people to the Lord. But do the Christians Against Poverty want to be treated as a tool by Phil Pringle? Why would the CAP align themselves with the C3 Church when C3’s values seem to contradict the values of CAP? Why are they allowing themselve to be associated with a ministry that financially exploits it’s members?

Read the below article to found out how C3 treats it’s financially struggling members and how C3 members are taught and encouraged how to give.

Does Phil Pringle & The C3 Movement Exploit It’s Poor Members Financially?

Note: All screen grabs were taken Before the 22/10/2011.

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