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How Can Kong Hee Say “I Do Maintain My Integrity”? (Part 1)

10 Tuesday Jul 2012

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations

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Last weekend, Kong Hee addressed City Harvest Church about his situation and his moral integrity over the allegations of financial misconduct.

(Edit (07/08/2012): He still parades himself as “Dr. Kong Hee”.)

However, Hee did not honestly address Pringle Pringle at this event. Hee addressed Phil Pringle as ‘Dr Phil Pringle’.

I Do Maintain My Integrity – Dr Kong Hee

It is always good to have a solid pastor to assess the evidence of Kong Hee (head of City Harvest Church), Phil Pringle (head of the C3 Movement) and Gordon Moore (founders and Senior Ministers of C3 Church Bridgeman Downs, Executive Member/National Directors of Australia for C3 Church Global).

Pastor Gervase Charmley examined our articles here:

Is Doctor Phil Pringle Really a Doctor?

What Is Wrong With Gordon & Kong?

This was his assessment of their diploma mill doctorates:

“Obviously not every non-accredited school is a diploma mill. What makes a diploma mill is that a degree may be obtained quickly and with little or no actual effort on the part of the one obtaining it, apart from the payment of a fee. For example, I do not think anyone would call Bob Jones University a diploma mill. Online education and distance learning are facts of our modern world, so that there are institutions that do not have a campus in the traditional sense, but who have high academic standards (The Open University in the UK is a great example of this, and probably the oldest). But from the description of the institution that awarded the doctorates of Phil pringle and Kong Hee, it sounds like a classic diploma mill.” – Pastor Gervase Charmley, 11/08/2012.

Don’t forget that Phil Pringle and Kong Hee have other close friends in ministry, who also got their false doctorates from another diploma mill.

Congo Line Of Unqualified Ministers Endorsed By Phil Pringle

NOTE: ALL SCREEN GRABS WERE TAKEN ON 07/08/2012.

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Is Phil Pringle Responding To Rosebrough & Charmley’s Criticism?

07 Saturday Apr 2012

Posted by Nailed Truth in Pringle's Behaviour, Tweets/Other

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Pringle tweeted,

“@philpringle Pr 26:4 Do not answer a fool according 2 his folly, Lest u also b like him.//Wisdom when ur tempted to reply to critics – online & offline” – Phil Pringle, Twitter, Tweetdeck, 29/03/2012 1:29pm.

Someone alerted Chris Rosebrough and Gervase Charmley to Pringle’s tweet saying, “Chris Rosebrough & Gervase Charmley – Perhaps you struck a nerve when critiquing Phil Pringle?” (31/03/2012)

Charmley responded with,

“. . . Listen to critics? Why, that would mean actually having to hear what they’re saying!” – Gervase Charmley, Facebook, 01/04/2012, 6:31 pm.

Even if Pringle isn’t responding to Rosebrough and Charmley, do you think Charmley’s response is an accurate description how Pringle responds to his critics?

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“Phil Pringle Is A Twit” Says Pastor Charmley

26 Monday Mar 2012

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Who is Pastor Gervase Charmley?

Charmley’s bio reads,

Gervase N. Charmley was born in Norwich in 1980 and converted to Christ during his first term at Chester University, England in 1998. He was baptized in 2000 and began preaching in 2002. He trained at the London Theological Seminary in 2004-6. He emphasizes the doctrines of the Bible, and especially the penal substitution of Christ on the Cross at Calvary. He was an itinerant preacher from 2006-2009, when he served six months as Assistant pastor at Tabor Baptist Church, Llantrisan, South Wales. In September 2009 he was called to minister at Bethel Evangelical Free Church, Hanley, Stoke on Trent, and was called as the pastor of Bethel in the Spring of 2010.” – http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?SpeakerOnly=true&currSection=sermonsspeaker&keyword=Gervase%5ECharmley (Accessed 27/03/2012)

Pringle gave a sermon in San Diego called ‘God Creates With Words’. Chris Rosebrough from ‘Fighting For The Faith’ (www.fightingforthefaith.com), reviewed this sermon:

Chris Rosebrough Critiquing Phil Pringle At C3 San Diego (12/02/2012)

Gervase Nicholas E. Charmley wrote to Chris Rosebrough in regards to the sermon review on Phil Pringle.

March 22, 2012

Perry Noble Repents…Sort Of

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At 18:35, Charmley’s writes

Phil Pringle is a twit

Dear Chris

Imagine my surprise as I heard Phil Pringle in his ‘God Creates with Words’ ‘sermon’ refer to a particularly silly liberal speculative (mis-) reading of the Song of Solomon. I cannot imagine anything less faithful to the Biblical narrative than the idea that Solomon is the villain who is coming between the rustic couple. Solomon is never presented as a villain in the Bible (though he is presented as a king who ultimately fails to be faithful to the covenant with God), and in post-Biblical literature (and the LXX), he is presented even more positively. Indeed nothing could be more certain than that the understanding of the Song of Solomon presented by Pringle is the product of a modern western understanding that finds the idea of Solomon’s love for a woman being celebrated distasteful in the light of his harem. This is a curious example of cultural myopia; the fact the we do not find it easy to think of Solomon as having been celebrated in this way does not mean that an ancient Israelite would not. As the well-worn quotation says, “The past is another country, they do things differently there,” and if we add to that the fact that we are dealing with the past of another country, well, we shall realise that we have to tread carefully.

I heard of this idea in Seminary, and I find that it is briefly dealt with by a few commentaries of the more liberal stripe, which rather amusingly reject it. To say that it is highly unlikely to be the key to the book is an understatement – it is completely impossible. A.S. Herbert in Peake’s Commentary (1962, Thomas Nelson) notes that the idea displays more ingenuity than fidelity to the Biblical text, and requires us to think that the book is in effect a secular drama of a type unknown in the ancient Semitic world. What is more, the bride is called the Shulamite, or Shelomith, probably a feminine form of Solomon’s own name; she is presented as his counterpart, the one who is made for him. Probably the work actually comes from the early life of Solomon, and may represent his first marriage.

So, a bad interpretation of the book is then badly allegorised! I mean, there is a standard allegorical understanding of the Song of Solomon, that is one thing, but to take a speculative ‘literal’ understanding and then to allegorise that is just criminal. I mean, talk about complete idiocy! If he was trying to give the worst possible supposed exegesis of the Song of Solomon, I do not think that he could do any worse!

In the name of our blessed Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Gervase Nicholas E. Charmley.

“I know I am a great sinner, and that Christ is a great Saviour.” — John Newton

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