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A Good Example Of Pringle Teaching Dishonestly

24 Wednesday Jul 2013

Posted by Nailed Truth in Pringle's Behaviour, Pringle's Doctrine/Gospel, Pringle's Influences, Pringle's Language, Pringle's Methods

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Before tackling this article, please read the following:

Pringle Mocks Corrector

More Christians in his church should tell Phil Pringle to “stick to the bible”. The topic of money is a common message preached at C3 Church. While we do not hear the faithful gospel preached of Christ and Him crucified, it is impossible to escape C3’s ten minute money-grubbing message. People need to face the facts. Phil Pringle has an unhealthy obsession with money and making up fables.

He clearly does not put his faith in God. Rather, Pringle puts faith in his works and finances. Question Pringle’s prosperity gospel and there is a good chance you will be labeled, criticised, ostracised, demonised or even isolated by the leadership. The tithe doctrine specifically is Pringle’s golden calf. In the past, the tithe has been called by C3 leadership the “foundation” or “cornerstone” to every believers life.

This false doctrine is both binding and destructive. This keeps poor Christians in C3 stuck in their poverty. This false doctrine has divided families and churches. Still, Phil Pringle conveniently refuses to examine the historicity and the biblical truth of the tithe. This doctrine helps no one except the false and deceptive ministry of Phil Pringle. Yet he insists Christians must tithe.

In a Sunday night sermon titled ‘Financial Excellence Part 2’ (22/05/2011), Phil Pringle slandered (blasphemed) God. He did so by putting words in God’s mouth. Pringle unashamedly went out of his way to mislead his congregation on his false tithe doctrine. Phil Pringle invented his own theology to convince and intimidate his congregation to continually financially support his ministry.

Before you read and listen to this segment of Phil Pringle, we wish to warn you of following deceptive  methods false teachers like himself use on Christians.

WARNING 1: Always hold the pastor accountable to the words he uses. If he his playing with words, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM.

WARNING 2: If a pastor is wrongfully confusing what God is saying to what he is saying, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM.

WARNING 3: If a pastor does not read the biblical text to justify his  claims, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. (i.e., if he tells you a biblical story and hi-jacks the biblical narrative for his own means.).

WARNING 4: Always check what the pastor is saying in the NAME of God to what God actually says in His Word.

WARNING 5: Always make sure that the Pastor is using biblical reasoning to teach you and NOT emotional manipulation (e.g., guilt, group intimidation).

Below, Pringle breaks all the rules of how a pastor should teach, behave and rightly approach biblical texts.

PRINGLE PLAYING WITH WORDS

In the below transcript you will see Pringle mislead the congregation by calling his financial insights to the bible a “bible study”. How can Pringle call what he taught a “bible study” when  he never read the texts in Joshua and Genesis? He never even gave biblical references. This was not a bible study. (A bible study actually involves the pastor explaining what the bible means by reading it and handling the contexts of what is said correctly.)

Throughout the below segment, Pringle kept redefining what the tithe was in very obscure ways. He does this to convince Christians that the tithe is biblical. Ask yourself: is the tithe continually defined by Pringle as ‘a tenth’ or something else? Does it keep changing itself meaning to suit Pringle’s theology or agenda?

PRINGLE PLAYING ‘GOD-AND-SWITCH’ AS IN ‘BAIT-AND-SWITCH’

To actually grasp what Pringle is doing in this segment of teaching, please watch the video at the bottom of this article (one minute in).

Good preachers clearly distinguish when God is speaking through the scriptures. They make sure that their voice is separate from God’s so no man is confused between a man’s words and God’s Word. Not so with Pringle. Pringle at one point speaks as though God is saying something through the scriptures. However, the listener can get easily confused over either God or Pringle speaking to you.

It was incredibly difficult to transcribe this video. In particularly when Pringle said,

“If you give me that [Jericho] then the rest of the land is yours. That’s the first fruits, that’s the tithe. That’s the tree in the garden for Adam.”

Was Pringle telling us this or was he telling us this is what God was saying in the book of Joshua?

PRINGLE AVOIDING THE BIBLE AT ALL COST

Using the books of Genesis and Joshua, Pringle starts arguing his case for the tithe. He AVOIDS reading these texts to support his argument. Instead, Pringle hi-jacks the narrative, lies about God saying things He never said and makes stuff up according to his personal pet theories.

If Pringle read out Genesis 2-3 or Joshua 6-8, then any hearer would realise that the tithe is not even mentioned in these ancient documents. You don’t think Pringle knows this? And what he says isn’t new. The sermon ‘Financial Excellence’ is based off his book ‘Keys To Financial Excellence’. His teaching has been expanded and extracted from his book ‘Keys To Financial Excellence’:

Pringle’s Curse Attack Gets A Wiki-Whack

Phil Pringle not only makes up his own theology in regards to the city of Jericho being a tithe, he also teaches that the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil is the tithe. Once again, if anyone was reading Genesis 2-3, they would see that Pringle is not honest in handling the God’s Word.

PRINGLE’S MESSAGE

Below is part of the transcript we just critiqued and the video.

“So here’s the Lord saying, “You’re robbing”. You’re taking something that belongs to God. It’s the tithe. You’re sticking it in your pocket. [Inaudible] Bless me. It aint gonna happen.

There’s a guy called Achan in the scripture. And look- If I’m stirred up about anything to do with this message, it is this point I’m making right now. Because, here’s the thing, Achan- does anybody know who Achan is? Achan?

Ok. Here’s the picture. Real quick little bible study.

Joshua comes to Jericho. God says, “March around the thing- seven days. Seven days, seven times. Shout. PHEOW! The whole thing will collapse. But,” he says, “that city is the tithe.”

“Don’t touch anything in the city.” It belongs to God. The whole lot. It was ‘under the ban’ was the literal words. Devoted to destruction. “If you give me that then the rest of the land is yours. That’s the firstfruits, that’s the tithe. That’s the tree in the garden for Adam.”

It’s the firstborn of every animal born on the earth. It’s the first. It’s the tithe.
‘kay. So everybody does it.

“Phew! Don’t touch it! Don’t touch!” Achan sees a big lump of gold. He says, “I’ll take that”. Puts in his back pocket. Goes into his tent. Digs a hole. Puts it in. Hides it in a couple of garments. [Inaudible.] Digs a hole. Hides it.

The next- they’re ready to go to the next town, Ai. Little town. A-i. That’s a little name, three thousand people, bam! Just go up there. Josh is- says ‘Oh, we wont even send the whole army up. We’ll kill these guys in no time at all’. Bam! So he goes up. They get defeated.

Israel gets defeated. About thirty seven of their own soldiers die. Achan doesn’t. One of the soldiers. He doesn’t. They come back. Josh is on his face. He says, “God! How did that happen? We took Jericho with big thick walls! Then we got beaten at Ai, by a nobody group!”

God says, “Somebody took the tithe.”

He says, “What do you mean?” He says, “You gotta find out who did this.” So they find out. Do a little investigation.
“Achan. What are you doing?”

“Woah!” … This is why I’m stirred up about it. Because it’s not about just me individually. It’s about the whole church. I’ve a corporate responsibility to the entire Kingdom of God. To the whole body of Christ.” Phil Pringle, Ps Phil Pringle: Financial Excellence Part 2, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-financial-excellence-part-2, Sermon (PM), 22/05/2011.

Below you can watch him say this in the snippet about one minute in.

PRINGLE LYING TO PEOPLE ABOUT GOD

Phil Pringle has a shepherds responsibility to handle God’s Word correctly and NOT lie and slander God and His word for financial gain. If anyone did do a “bible study” reading Joshua 6-8 while Pringle preached, they would notice Pringle made up things God never said.

God didn’t say,

“that city [Jericho] is the tithe.”

God did not say,

“If you give me that then the rest of the land is yours. That’s the firstfruits, that’s the tithe. That’s the tree in the garden for Adam. It’s the firstborn of every animal born on the earth. It’s the first. It’s the tithe. ‘kay.”

When Joshua consulted God in regards to his military losing the battle at Ai, God did not say to Joshua,

“Somebody took the tithe.”

Phil Pringle is making God say and teach things God never said. In other words, Phil Pringle is blaspheming by taking the Lord’s name in vain.

Firstly, this false teaching of the tithe goes against the heart of the Father, goes against Jesus and His finished work on Calvary and the Holy Spirit. Why? It is through Christ we find blessing and freedom away from the curse and condemnation of death, God’s Law and His wrath. As Christians we do not receive the Holy Spirit, God’s promise and blessing by our works. The entire letter to the Galatians makes this case. This is blasphemy no matter which way you look at it, again taking the Lord’s name in vain.

PRINGLE USING INTIMIDATION AND CROWD CONTROL 

Pringle lets his emotions run in this portion of his talk. His tone is accusative against Christians for not tithing. If you watch further beyond the transcript, he starts personally confessing his works and his faithfulness to the tithe.

This does not stop Pringle teaching to his congregation that if individuals aren’t tithing, they are accused by God of “robbing,” cursed by God Himself and blocking the progress of his C3 church movement. This is This is why he says,

“I’m stirred up about it. Because it’s not about just me individually.”

The onus is on non-tithers to do what Pringle says or else. His lies mixed with his intimidation is in our opinion bullying. It is of our opinion he is using misleading tactics to force non-tithers in his congregation to tithe, using his own congregation against them. Think of it this way. After this sermon, how would members react to people who say they don’t tithe? After this sermon, do you think non-tithers would dispute this teaching against other members? Do you think they will feel isolated and alone in their thoughts on this matter?

Overall, this is a good example how a false teacher would teach and behave behind a pulpit. Phil Pringle’s false message and deceitful methods are clearly evident in this sermon.

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Kong Hee Again Blames Phil Pringle For SunTec Mess: “… it’s all your fault, Pastor!”

18 Saturday May 2013

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations

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Last year at C3 Presence Conference 2012, Kong Hee blamed Phil Pringle for his mess back in Singapore.

Kong Hee To Phil Pringle: “You created this mess! You’ve Got To Come And Help Us Fix It”

At Presence Conference 2013, Kong Hee again blames Phil Pringle about his current circumstances.

“I’ve learnt one thing about Pastor Phil: he’s a prophet of God. He’s very dangerous when he tells you that this building is created for you or built for you or developed for you. Because in 1995, he said the same thing to me. He said, “The SunTec Convention Center is- developed for you”.

And then, I just checked a video a few years- uh, just recently, Pastor Phil. In the year 2000 I think. Or 2001. You spoke to our entire congregation. And you said, “You know what? You guys are going to SunTec Convention Center”. And so we did. And all the troubles began.

So it’s all your fault, Pastor!” – Kong Hee, C3 Global Presence Conference, Day 1, Session 1, 2013.

Don’t you agree with Kong Hee? Would Kong Hee be in the mess he is facing today if Phil Pringle didn’t falsely prophesy over him?

If you would like proof that Phil Pringle is a false prophet, check out his false prophecies here:

Pringle’s Oracle Debacles

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Does Phil Pringle Distort Church Statistics For Personal Gain? (Update)

07 Saturday Jan 2012

Posted by Nailed Truth in Pringl'es Books, Pringle's Influences, Pringle's Issues/Events, Pringle's Methods, Pringle's Prophecies

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In his book ‘Top 10 Qualities of a Great Leader’, Phil Pringle’s promotion page at the back of his book says:

“Today, Dr. Phil Pringle oversees the approximately 1,200 churches that make up Christian City Church International throughout the world, a significant proportion planted directly from Christian City Church Oxford Falls.” – About the Author DR. PHIL PRINGLE, Top 10 Qualities of a Great Leader, 2007, pg. 227.

Phil Pringle has expressed continually in his 20/20 Vision that he wants to have 1000 churches with an average of 500 members. In 2007, 120 churches may have been believable. However, our below article reveals that C3 is willing to inform that it has roughly 243 churches registered within it’s own movement:

C3 Has Roughly 243 Churches Globally

The above misleading information in his book may have been a typographical error. However, there is suspicion to his wild claims. This is a following statement Pringle made in his 9AM, morning service, October 2010 (emphasis mine):

“You know this last couple of months we were in Bali, like two months ago. Might be less than that. Six- FOUR WEEKS!? I can’t believe that. Ok. Four weeks ago. And they told me there that there were forty eight people from Myanmar, eight people from Jakarta and two churches we were planting and that added up to fifty eight churches. And I said, ‘Wow! That’s astonishing!’.

And I came back here and another brother who’s working up in Indonesia, said he’s just met a group of pastors who want to become part of what we are doing and are just hanging out to do that. And that was thirty six churches. And then Simon came back from the European conference and he met a guy in Bulgaria who has sixteen churches. And he wants to hook in as well. And so in the last like six weeks, we have grown by nearly a hundred and twenty churches in the whole movement.

A hundred and twenty– a hundred and twenty churches. And that’s besides starting Hong Kong and a few other places we’re planting churches as well. Now you know, I remember when I said like, ‘Church, isn’t it amazing? We are planting one new church– growing by one new church every three days’.

Now I said that to you about six weeks ago. And I said, ‘I’m looking forward to the day when we are gonna be growing by one church a day’. And you all sat there ‘n said, ‘Yeah, yeah, yeah! Pastor, nah. Don’t get too excited. I mean as if that’s ever going to happen’. Well it’s happened right now in Jesus’ name. That’s just in four weeks time!” – Phil Pringle, (43:43-52:46), Sunday, 9am Morning Service, Christian City Church Oxford Falls, 24/10/2010

To validate his prophetic title and to motivate his congregation to give money in his giving sermon – he clearly distorted information. Readers should observe that Phil Pringle uses the word ‘planting’. When a church is planted – this generally means that an existing church or an individual Christian (with a small group) starts a new church in a physical location from scratch with whatever resources they have available.

To say the C3 church have physically started 120 brand new churches from scratch, is wrong and incredibly misleading. They are REBRANDING other churches and not planting churches. Worse still, Pringle seems satisfied to believe that if pastors or individuals are interested in joining his C3 Global movement, that’s worthy to be worded a church plant.

Pringle needs to get something straight: ‘forty eight people from Myanmar’ plus ‘eight people from Jakarta’ plus ‘two churches’ does NOT add ‘up to fifty eight churches’.

This is not only an exaggeration but deliberate manipulation with facts, numbers, words and events to elevate his status as a prophet and to get people to give his ministry money. He is purposely confusing his congregation in this message.

What’s more appalling is that Pringle gave this false testimony and said that it ‘happened right now in Jesus’ name’. Christians need to understand the severity of this. Phil Pringle decieved people to give his ministry money and to elevate his personal platform as prophet before men ‘in Jesus name’. Phil Pringle publicly used the Lord’s name in vain to give a false account and to deceive Christians.

What’s VERY peculiar about this above distortion is the total number of so-called ‘churches’ that joined his movement: 120. Again consider in his book ‘Top 10 Qualities of A Great Leader‘ the exaggerated number of churches that he oversaw in his movement was 1,200. First there is a false claim of 1,200 churches followed by the above false claim of 120 churches. Coincidence? In May this year in 2011, Phil Pringle made the claim he has nearly 500 churches worldwide (emphasis mine):

“And people – we want to bless them and do all we can, plant more churches, send out more people to plant churches all around the world … There are like nearly five hundred of these [C3] Churches out there and the reason it happens is because of couples like this. The couple there who said, “You know what? We’re going to send in this break-through tithe”.” -Phil Pringle, Ps Phil Pringle: Financial Excellence Part 1, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-financial-excellence-part-1, 22/05/2011.

You can watch him say it on C3ChurchWatch here, (video 2 at 1:16):

Phil Pringle Financially Fooling & Fleecing People (Part 1)

Phil Pringle is also exaggerating – in fact lying to his congregation. The context of this sermon is to make people become tithers at the end of the sermon. Pringle is trying to convince people to give their money to his ministry by proving his church is successful in church growth. These are just some of the many things he has said in regards to how many ‘churches’ he’s ‘planted’.

After considering the information presented, Phil Pringle is either:

1. having difficulty knowing if his movement consists of 243 churches, nearly 500 churches or 1,200 churches. Or Phil Pringle is…

2. making up whatever number of churches his movement has, to justify his motives and appearances; to assure audiences that his false prophetic utterances are true; or to groom or appeal to his audiences to give his ministry money. Either way, either option is highly problematic. Does evidence suggest that the second option be the more correct conclusion?

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Edit (09/01/2012): Someone observed a typographical error. This has been fixed.

At the MyC3Church website, Pringle’s profile reads:

“Phil Pringle is the Founder and President of C3 Church Global, a global movement of over 240 churches, and the Senior Minister of C3 Church in Sydney Australia. Phil and his wife, Christine, started C3 Church in 1980 and it is now one of the fastest growing, exciting and powerful churches in Australia.” – www2.myc3church.net/aboutphilpringle (Accessed 10/01/2012)

Google informs us that that Pringle’s profile was edited/published on the 19th November 2008.

We would also like to point out our article here:

What Are ‘Christians Against Poverty’ (CAP) Doing At C3?

They say of Phil Pringle,

‘Phil Pringle is the Founder and President of C3 Church International, a global movement of over 240 churches, and the Senior Minister of C3 Church in Sydney Australia‘. – http://www.capaust.org/news.php?action=show&news_id=189 (Accessed 10/01/2012)

Google informs us that this CAP web page was edited/published on the 14th December 2008.

From C3 Church North City Hamilton we read:

“Pastor Phil Pringle is the Founder and President of C3 Church Global, a global movement of over 240 churches, and the Senior Minister of C3 Church in Sydney Australia. Phil and his wife, Christine, started C3 Church in 1980 and it is now one of the fastest growing, exciting and powerful churches in Australia.” – http://www.c3churchnorthcity.com/videos.html (Accessed 10/01/2012)

Google informs us that this C3 Church North City Hamilton web page was edited/published up on the 21st April 2009.

We were also informed by C3 North Melbourne’s blog that,

Pastor Doctor Phil Pringle A.O.M. shares his vision for 1000 churches in C3 Church international. There are currently around 250 churches and we are part of the 2020 vision… – http://northernconnections.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/do-you-see-it-1000-churches-500000-members/ (Accessed 10/01/2012)

This C3 Blog informs us that this post was created on the 3rd of November 2009. It was not edited.

Now comes the leap year. If you look at the C3 Church Davenport website, you will read,

We began planting churches around Sydney, then Australia, then the world; we now have close to 300 congregations in our movement. Our 2020 Vision is to plant and grow 1000 churches and we’re on target to meet this.

Google informs us that this web page was edited/published up on the 20th of April 2009.

If you look at the old C3 Bono Website, we are informed by Pringle that he,

… began planting churches around Sydney, then Australia, then the world; we now have close to 300 congregations in our movement. Our 2020 Vision is to plant and grow 1000 churches and we’re on target to meet this… – http://web.archive.org/web/20100619130947/http://www.myc3church.net/node/103 (Accessed 10/01/2012)

From wayback.com, we find this information was published on the 27th of April 2009.

If you go to MyC3Church.net and click ‘Church Online – watch archive’, the profile of Phil Pringle will read:

Pastor Phil Pringle is the Senior Minister of one of Australia’s fastest growing, exciting and powerful churches. 1980 saw Phil and his wife Christine arrive in Sydney Australia from New Zealand, armed with faith and a vision to build a contemporary, vibrant church that would grow and impact a city for Christ. Today, 31 years later C3 (Oxford Falls) is one of Australia’s largest churches with over 5,500 members. Pastor Phil has always projected the vision of planting new congregations, especially in major cities around the world. Today, Dr Pringle oversees the approximately 258 churches that make up Christian City Church International throughout the world. – http://www2.myc3church.net/0603116pmpp (Accessed 10/01/2012)

Oddly, Google records that this information was edited/published recently on the 19th of December 2011.

As we have seen, C3 does not have the tendency to round down. All this is rather important information. We have found that Pringle and the C3 movement have been promoting that they have had over 240 churches since late 2008 (there may be earlier dates than 19th November 2008 that record C3 having over 240 churches). However, now it’s promoted on their website that they have approximately 258 churches with a massive jump of nearly 300 churches in between.

Growing from just over 240 churches to approximately 258 church sounds like realistic progress. However, this does not excuse Phil Pringle from distorting church statistics for personal gain.

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Edit (08/02/2012): There is further proof that the quote from Phil Pringle’s book ‘Top 10 Qualities of a Great Leader’, is NOT a typo. There is also visual proof of this quote in the book ‘Top 10 Qualities of a Great Leader’ in GoogleBooks. See the thumbnail below. Access link here: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=rJDrhB-05twC&pg=PT237&lpg=PT237&dq=&source=bl&ots=qonOxFbqSN&sig=1FOuYTiqfJ6j2YS_gza22Q87A4g&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uCUxT92SOa6SiAfBwLyYBQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

This information is another of his books, ‘Dead For Nothing?’. Access link here: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=2qWhZyGuCMIC&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=source=bl&ots=ZrUGYZSaDK&sig=54HYbHLXipMdy3mceY2liHFz3aY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QEcxT4nJIqzwmAW3t4DkBQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

This reprinted version of ‘Dead for Nothing’ on GoogleBooks, says it was published in 2003. ‘Top 10 Qualities of A Great Leader’ says it was published in 2007. Four years leaves plenty of time for issues to be addressed. Why was this serious ‘typo’ not addressed?

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Letter To Phil Pringle

11 Sunday Dec 2011

Posted by Nailed Truth in Pringle's Issues/Events, Uncategorized

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To Phil Pringle. Please:

1. … Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. (2 Tim 2:15)

2. … Examine yourself to see whether you are in the faith; test yourself. (2 Cor 13:5)

3. … do not go on ahead and depart from the teaching of Christ (2 John 1:9)

4. … do not receive false teachers in both their false doctrine, neither greet them nor support them, for if you greet them, you are taking part in their wicked works (Such as Copeland, Hinn, Furtick, Bevere, Jakes, Osteen, Witt, Mesiti, Beth Jones, Avanzini, Kong Hee, Maxwell, Duplantis, etc). (2 John 1:10-11)

5. … speak with sincerity in the Messiah’s name, like people who are sent from God and are accountable to God. (2 Cor 2:17)

6. … preach Christ crucified. (1 Cor 1:23)

7. … be more transparent with your organisation and motives within the C3 Movement.

8. … be more accountable and faithful to your congregagation.

9. … repent of your false doctrines, false prophecies and scripture twisting.

10. … repent of your slanderous accusations and lies against the body of Christ.

11. .. remove the yes men that prevent you from hearing the Spirit of Truth.

You have hurt many people with your destructive blasphemies and heresies. You are accountable before God if you choose to insist in your error. Please purify your message so that you may not perish.

We never wish any evil on you or your church. We believe in rejoicing in all things that are good. I wish that C3 will flourish under Godly leadership and teaching.

Regards,
C3ChurchWatch

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