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Classic “Dr” Phil: (Part 1) – The wonderful wizard of Oz

28 Monday Jul 2014

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The credentials of “Dr” Phil

Before reading the below article, please read the folllowing article.

Is Doctor Phil Pringle Really a Doctor?

To this date we are not familiar with Phil Pringle gaining any further theological qualifications.

What a wascawwy wizard!

Potter JesusQuestion: According to Phil Pringle, what do J. K. Rowling and Jesus have in common?

Answer: The same creative force and substance that can materialise things into existence.

Pringle calls this creative force faith.

“Faith is a creative force. When we operate by faith, we employ the creative power of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 66.

We have stressed for a long time now that Phil Pringle does not teach a regenerate faith or the Christian faith that saves sinners from the hands from an angry God. Rather, he teaches a faith foreign to the Christian faith found in the Word of Faith teachings which has its roots in the occult. Is it any surprise to anyone that Pringle will connect his own ‘faith’ and Jesus’ faith to the ‘faith’ of J. K. Rowling, the author that has popularised witch craft to children and families all around the world? Who knew that Rowling’s books are “fit for the kingdom of God”? Who knew Pringle would look to people like her to draw inspiration how to live a Godly life?

D. R. McConnell in his book ‘A Different Gospel’ compares the Word of Faith to the teachings of the metaphysical and Christian Science cults.

‘The Secret’ to Phil Pringle’s Doctrine of ‘Faith’

Phil Pringle Influenced By Occult/ New Thought/ Metaphysical Cult Teachings

How Pagan Can Pringle Get?

Before reading Pringle’s below article, we would like to quote again the metaphysical cult expert Ralph Waldo Trine who links his teachings to the occult:

“THERE is a golden thread that runs through every religion in the world. There is a golden thread that runs through the lives and the teachings to all the prophets, seers, sages, and saviors in the world’s history, through the lives of all men of truly great and lasting power. All that they have ever done or attained to has been done in full accordance with law.

What one has done, all may do. This same golden thread must enter into the lives of all who today, in this busy work-a-day world of ours, would exchange impotence for power, weakness and suffering for abounding health and strength pain and unrest for perfect peace, poverty of whatever nature for fullness and plenty.

Each is building their own world. We both build from within and we attract from without. Thought is the force with which we build, for thoughts are forces. Like builds like and like attracts like. In the degree that thought is spiritualized does it become more subtle and powerful in its workings. This spiritualizing is in accordance with law and is within the power of all.

Everything is first worked out in the unseen before it is manifested in the seen, in the ideal before it is realized in the real, in the spiritual before it shows forth in the material…” [Source]

Here is Pringle’s article:

The Vow

“Put your teeth together” commitment is where we see change and growth in our lives. In our faithfulness we see the change. Commit and you will see you persistence pay off!

But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62 

We often make a commitment because it looks easy or we like the outcome, only to find obstacles in our path and the task of achieving it becomes difficult. Put your hand to the plow, Jesus says, and stick with it. Make a commitment and don’t look back, look forwards. Become a product of your future and not your past, by conforming to the vision and not past events.

Joseph rose because he walked like a king and talked like a king while he was a slave and a prisoner. He became a product of his vision, not his past. This takes faith.

Faithfulness is different from faith: it is the quality of good character, persistence and consistency. Miracles are not predictable in the life of a Christian because God wants us to grow: we develop muscles when we have to fight through things instead of having the answer handed to us all the time.

When the insect battles its way out of the chrysalis, it is developing the wings it needs to fly.

There are 9 bones in the wing of a dove. Imagine that the 9 gifts of the Spirit are one wing and the 9 fruits of the Spirit are the other. Gifts are given but fruit is grown over time: if you only have one wing, flight is impossible.

Growth is imperceptible, it looks like nothing is happening most of the time. You plod along doing the same thing but if you compare yourself to several years ago you can see that growth has occurred.

Now it came to pass, when the time had come for Him to be received up, that He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem. Luke 9:51

Jesus “set His face” to do the task at hand, despite how He felt about it. When you have committed to something you need to get over your feelings. Most of us know the internal argument we have when our alarms go off in the morning, you don’t feel like getting up, but you’ve committed. It is astonishing what can be achieved by simply continuing to do something every day of your life.

Plod along! Committing to God is like compound interest –it does so much more in your life than a lump sum payment can. Your persistence will affect every area of your life, developing character, endurance and faithfulness to give your Christianity a context and the muscles to pursue a breakthrough.

Joseph is one example from the Bible of persistence and many modern day heroes have had to overcome rejection and keep plodding along until they had a breakthrough from Thomas Edison to Michael Jordan:

– JK Rowling had 12 rejections from publishers and was told to “get a day job”.

– Colonel Sanders aged 67 was rejected by 1,009 banks before getting financing for KFC franchises.

They never could have achieved greatness if they had given up or refused to work on their visions because they didn’t feel like it. They were committed.

Commitment is not a word used in the Bible but it means “vow” or “pledge” which appears many times. Nothing is achieved without commitment, so make one today to pursue God and build His house and see what He will do in your life if you stick with it.

See you in church!

Source: Phil Pringle, The Vow, PhilPringle.com, philpringle.com/blog-/thevow#.U9R2b7HqL5c, Published 24/06/2014. (Accessed 27/07/2013.)

Chavez On Resurrection Sunday Exalts Pringle’s Above Christ?

13 Saturday Apr 2013

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Scriptures say,

“Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:

“‘You will indeed hear but never understand,
and you will indeed see but never perceive.
For this people’s heart has grown dull,
and with their ears they can barely hear,
and their eyes they have closed,
lest they should see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their heart
and turn, and I would heal them.’

“But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear. For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.” Matthew 13:10-17

Who do think this passage is about? If you think this passage is about Jesus talking about himself, you are right. Jesus was the Messiah “many prophets and righteous people longed to see”. None else.

This prophecy Jesus spoke of was also against Israel. The disciples were truly blessed unlike Israel for they did not receive dull hearts, dull hearing or closed eyes. They were given the knowledge from Jesus to interpret what they were hearing. This is why the disciples were blessed to truly see and truly hear the words of Christ – Israel’s Messiah. The Incarnate Word of God. The one who the Law and the Prophets prophesied about it and longed to see.

However, you are about to hear Jabin Chavez misuse these verses and claim that Jesus is prophesying this about Phil and Chris Pringle,

“But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear. For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.”

Now our question to readers is this: Did Jesus really say the above about Phil and Chris Pringle ? Does Christ exalt them above his divine authority and Messiahship? Well if you think they’re not, take this issue up with Jabin Chavez and the Pringle’s. Hear what Jabin Chavez has to say:

Read Chavez’ liturgy of blasphemous flattery:

“Why don’t you just stay standing for a moment. Just want to sing a bit. Prepare our hearts. Um. I don’t know if you know how blessed you are to be in this church. Um. Jesus said that you’re blessed because of what you’ve seen and what you’ve heard. And ah- you have two pastors that, number one- you can see their life and be absolutely blessed because of who they are and the integrity and the faithfulness- I don’t know if you know: Happy birthday.

This is your thirty-third year as a church. Isn’t this incredible?

Three hundred campuses, a hundred thousand people at C3 all over the world. You’re blessed because of what you’ve seen.

And number two, you are blessed because of what you’ve heard. I don’t know if there are two greater teachers and preachers than Pastor Phil and Chris Pringle…

And honestly one of the number one things I thought right away is, “I really want to meet her pastor”. And so wisdom is proved right by her children. The bible says Jesus said that. And so- ah, that’s really a by-product of Pastor Chris and your gift and your grace on your life.” – Jabin Chavez, “Mt2M” – Jabin Chavez, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/mt2m-jabin-chavez, 31/03/2013. (Accessed 13/04/2013.)

Jesus did say that “Wisdom is proved right by her children”. However, Chris Pringle is NOT “Wisdom”. Christ is. Christ is the Incarnate Word/Logos of God, the Power and Wisdom of God. Jesus was the fulfillment of Cultural Wisdom and Counter-Cultural Wisdom in the Old Testament Literature. His children are those that have heard the gospel, repented from their sins and were baptised. Luke is clearly making this point in his gospel. This is what Jesus said in context:

“When John’s messengers had gone, Jesus began to speak to the crowds concerning John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? What then did you go out to see? A man dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those who are dressed in splendid clothing and live in luxury are in kings’ courts. What then did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written,

“‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face,
who will prepare your way before you.’

I tell you, among those born of women none is greater than John. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.” (When all the people heard this, and the tax collectors too, they declared God just, having been baptized with the baptism of John, but the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected the purpose of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.)

“To what then shall I compare the people of this generation, and what are they like? They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another,

“‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge, and you did not weep.’

For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is justified by all her children.” Luke 7:24-35

If Phil Pringle and Chris Pringle do not want their movement to now be labeled a cult, they must respond immediately to the blasphemous claims of Jabin Chavez that they are ‘Messiahs’ and ‘Wisdom’. To shamelessly do this on Resurrection Sunday is simply disgraceful.

Jesus & The Easter Story According to Pringle

05 Thursday Apr 2012

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Phil Pringle in his book ‘Hope’ adds to scripture and believes that Jesus went to hell. In this excerpt, Pringle also apparently believes that Jesus lost his divine nature on the cross. Here is the excerpt from his book:

“Laying him down on the cross means nothing to the soldier. He has executed thousands. It’s just another body. Like the limb of an animal, he stretches out the arm of Jesus, finding the point in the palm of his hand to place the rusty spike. The hammer descends in full force. With just one punch, Jesus’ hand is fastened to the wood. He moans with pain, yet an even greater pain is stealing over Him. By the tim His other hand is pinned, He is overwhelmed with a sickness deeper than flesh. All the murders, lying, corruptions, perversions and depravities of all kinds, betrayals, blasphemies, hatreds, fears, madness and rage all pour into his body like the sourest of bile pouring into the bowl. He screams as the long iron peg is hammered through his joined feet. They hoist Him up, then drop the tall post into the open ground. His weight jerks on the nails, tearing open the wounds.

But even this pain is weak compared to the maladies gathering on His frame. Cancers of every kind, pains and diseases, deformities, deafness, blindness, growths and leprosies, all the diseases of mankind disfigure His body. Then a malignant evil, monstrous rage, approached with a mouth large enough to swallow Him whole. Jesus is hobbled with constriction and bondage burying His mind, emotions and soul into chains of bitter, fiery malevolence. Paralyzed with every kind of evil, God allows every sin, sickness and bondage to fall upon His only Son, so the deliverance of every person ever born will be possible.

Jesus’ eyes flutter open and the eerie feeling of hanging midair, feeling the breeze across His face and seeing His mother weeping far below, briefly brings a quiet across His soul. But then it rages again. All the fury of hell pours on Him like a volcano exploding. Seeing John, He tells him to care for Mary, His mother. Are there no disciples? He searches for friends but only sees mockers and scorners. One though, a soldier, a centurion, sees the peace and hope in the face of Christ. Others see it too. Thieves crucified either [pg 81] side of him see it. One seeks salvation. Jesus gives hope to a hopeless man, right there in the most hopeless of all situations. “Today,” His parched lips mumble to the thief with a strength, dignity and clarity for all nearby to hear, “I’ll see you in paradise.”

Faith rises. He forgives all those taunting and mocking their prey. His heart gathers strength. But then the blackest of moments comes. A presence He has always felt, even through all the scourging and torture, through all the mockery and betrayal, now lifts. He feels something he has never ever felt: alienation from God, from His own beloved Father. He screams. No pain has felt like this pain. His soul is torn like a rag, left dangling without meaning in the universe. The ultimate despair fills His soul. He cries out, asking why God has to forsake Him at this point when He needs Him the most! Alone, alone, so alone. Yet, even here, though severed from His Father and His home, Jesus finds “rest in hope,” knowing His Father’s word supersedes any feelings He has. Within minutes, without the life of God anywhere connected to him, Jesus, as a flesh and blood-only man expires, throwing himself upon God, his Father, with a final prayer: “Into your hands I commit my spirit.”

He dies in hope-not the hope of wishful thought “hoping” He will rise again-no, He dies in the full assurance that within just three days, He will be back, ready to ascend to Heaven, to His father, to the throne of God.

His hope becomes our hope, without which, Paul says, we of all people would be most miserable, because of the things we must suffer in following Christ. But this hope is supreme. It is the hope of eternal life, meaning that there is a place prepared for us for that is eternal life, and there is a body, the same as that with which Jesus arose, for eternal living.

The sacrifice is complete. In one final heaving breath, Jesus roars, “It is finished!” His eyes close, fluttering with agony. A long moan escapes His lungs. His body hangs limp and lifeless. The weight of the entire iniquities of all humankind has crushed the life from the Lamb of God. His now dead body robbing the soldiers of the final torture of breaking his legs.

Yet, just as suddenly, He’s awake again! The searing red, superheated atmosphere around him eats like acid into His face. Thick blackness, almost like a substance, seems to suck the air from His lungs. Barely breathing, struggling for air, He aches for just something cool and moist. But the heat is inescapable and there is no relief, no water, no cool. Hands are clawing at Him. Powerful hands pick Him up and throw Him down again and again. A chorus of raucous laughter fills the cavern.

Slowly, his eyes adjust. He sees faintly the contorted faces of heavy, powerful and evil figures crowded all around, filled with rage unpacified, a merciless, sour revenge. Jesus finds His feet and stands. The great beasts look bewildered. How could He rise? They rush at Him, but a mysterious light glows from Him. An unspotted purity, something never seen in these dark domains: holiness! No matter how hard they try, it seems each dark demon is weakened, even powerless, in the presence of this One. Before they can reach Him, their knees give way, their legs fail and they fall. The power of His sacrifice fills the cavern like the scent of a million roses, overpowering every stench of the minions of Satan. Gathering strength and His face unflinching, Jesus begins a lone march through the tunnels of Hades, scattering demons in His powerful stride. They screech and howl, clinging to the walls, trying to outdo each other, throwing themselves at the Son of God, but their strength has evaporated in the presence of this One. With every step, Jesus seems to glow brighter. His light blinds their eyes in the deep dark. No matter how many gather, they all fall to the side, Every step Jesus takes sends a shudder down through to the foundations of this endless abyss.

After what seems like a day, He arrives at the core, the very throne of darkness. He strides to the writhing creature filling the seat. For a second there is a dim recollection from eons ago. The beast remembers this one. He sat on the very throne he lusted for. This is the Son-the very son of Yahweh! Fear, rage and a hatred deeper than the abyss itself spews out the mouth of the devil as he runs at Jesus, who simply stands His ground. With every step the great creature shrinks, like wind leaving a balloon, the giant figure cowers before Him. Jesus grasps the beast and throws him like a doll to the ground. Weakened to a bag with a puff of wind, Satan whines in the dust. Lifting his right leg and bringing down his foot with full force, Jesus’ heel sinks into the head of the now feeble creature. Satan’s head implodes. He writhes in pain, screaming and moaning, shaking head to toe. Demons look on in horror, slinking back as Jesus stands tall. A set of keys dangle from the side of the now defeated Satan. Tearing them from their loop, Jesus jangles them above his head, declaring, “I now have the keys of hell and death! I have defeated death, hell and the devil. At My name every knee from this place will bow! When anyone speaks in My name, your power will break. Your authority in every and any domain whatsoever, has been stripped from you today. My servants will enforce this victory throughout the entire Earth and you will be powerless to prevent it! God has spoken!”

Hell shakes, shudders and sways. Jesus rises from the ground and keeps rising, through all the dungeons, holes and caves. A force greater than any felt here before keeps lifting Him higher. His lungs filled with sweet air. His eyes open in the dark tomb, feeling the cool air of Earth in the morning. His heart pounds in His chest. Healing streams through every part of His three-day dead corpse. Sitting up now, strength surges into His muscles. A little giddy, He stands, gains balance and blinks at the bright light streaming past the large, round stone.

Heavenly angels stand by the entrance. The tough Roman quaternion is lying unconscious on the ground. Folding his grave cloths at the end of the slab, Jesus strides from the tomb in to the garden, deeply pulling into His nostrils the aroma of the beauty of the morning, smiling that pain has passed. Joy has come. His first words are, “Thank You, Father.” More than just coming back to life as He had been, He now walks in a newly-made body. He looks different, yet the same. He feels eternal, yet earthly as well. His now-undying resurrection body is alive and deathless. This gift He will give to any who receives Him. Eternal life, conscious and alive, more alive than ever before, with a body equipped for an unending life of unthinkable adventures, creations and discovery!” – Phil Pringle, Hope, 2011, pg 80-84.

Phil Pringle And Kenneth Copeland

16 Friday Mar 2012

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Another Jesus, A Different Spirit, A Different Gospel 2Cor 11:4

Another Jesus, A Different Spirit, A Different Gospel 2Cor 11:4, (Quotes sourced below)

PHIL PRINGLE’S VIEW OF KENNETH COPELAND

Scripture says,

“Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.” 2John 1:8-11

It is important that we understand who Phil Pringle chooses to be associated with. Does Phil Pringle receive teachers who do “not abide in the teaching of Christ”? Does he endorse them?

Sadly Phil Pringle endorses and supports many false ministries and teachers like the ministry of Kenneth Copeland.

Kenneth Copeland is a key player in the prosperity movement or ‘Word of Faith’ cult. It is men like Copeland that have given rise to dangerous heresies, endorsing gnostic/occult teachings and cult-like methodologies in the C3 Church movement. Unfortunately, people like Phil Pringle have fallen victim to these men’s false teachings.

So how does Pringle see Kenneth Copeland?

Pringle considers Copeland as a brother and prophet and defends Copeland ministry from other pastors.

“When Kenneth Copeland began preaching on prosperity, it seemed out of balance to many. Maybe it was, but few prophetic messages come forth as balanced thoughts. God often has to push the pendulum to the opposite side to get us back in balance. However, for whatever reasons, a lot of preachers took up arms against Copeland and began preaching against his message.” – Phil Pringle, You The Leader, 2005, pg 140.

Pringle also says ‘Brother Copeland’ has spoken in his church twice.

“I have a simple philosophy of “rolling with the punches.” This takes the heat out of a lot of the punches we take. I simply rolled with what a lot of others thought was a threat to the local church. In fact we had Brother Copeland come twice and preach in our church. We’ve only been blessed by the message.” – Phil Pringle, You The Leader, 2005, pg 141.

Must we remind readers that Pringle still promotes this book today. Since Pringle references Copeland in his book on leadership, (You The Leader), reveals Pringle sees Kenneth Copeland as a leader.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH KENNETH COPELAND?

Paul the Apostle insultingly says to the Corinthian church,

“I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.” 2Corinthians 11:3-4

Kenneth Copeland preaches a different gospel message, a different Jesus and a different spirit among a number of other heresies. This isn’t too hard to prove.

THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO COPELAND

Kenneth Copeland teaches that man is God…

“You’re all God. You don’t have a God living in you; you are one! … When I read in the Bible where God tells Moses, ‘I AM,’ I say, ‘Yah, I Am too!'” – ‘The Force of Love,’ Kenneth Copeland, tape BBC-56, 1987.

“Now Peter said by exceeding great and precious promises you become partakers of the divine class. All right, are we gods? We are a class of gods!” – Kenneth Copeland, ‘Praise The Lord’ TV Show, , 05/02/1986.

“You are not a spiritual schizophrenic — half-God and half-Satan — you are all-God” – Kenneth Copeland, Now We Are in Christ Jesus, 1980, pg. 16-17.

… And teaches that Adam was God…

“He [Adam] was not subordinate to God … [but] was walking as a god with the authority of a god. … What he said went. What he did, counted. [And when he] bowed his knee to Satan and put Satan up above him, then there wasn’t anything God could do about it, because a god had placed [Satan] there.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Love, tape #02-0028.

“God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even. … Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus. … Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh.” – Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham I, audiotape: #01-3001, Side 1, 1989.

“All of God’s attributes and abilities were invested in Adam.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Authority of the Believer IV; Tape #01-0304.

“You see Adam was walking as a God, Adam walked in God’s class, Adam did things in the class of god’s, hallelujah…” – Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham, Tape #01-3001.

Because man is God, Copeland teaches,

“Pray to yourself, because I’m in yourself and you’re in Myself. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord.” – Kenneth Copeland, “Believer’s Voice of Victory”, Feb. 1987, pg. 9.

Thus as a God an in complete oneness of God’s Spirit, Copeland promotes Gnosticism, teaching His pantheistic laws of the universe (doctrine of demons)…

“When we use the spiritual laws that God has set up, God must obey what we request.” – Kenneth Copeland, Praise the Lord, TBN, 05/02/1986.

And teaches God is incompetent unless we give Him invitation to use us.

“God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith.” – Kenneth Copeland, Freedom from Fear, KCM, 1980, pg. 11-12.

“God had no avenue of lasting faith or moving in the earth. He had to have covenant with somebody. . . . He had to be invited in, in other words, or He couldn’t come. God is on the outside looking in. In order to have any say so in the earth, He’s gonna have to be in agreement with a man here.” – Kenneth Copeland, God’s Covenant With Man II, Frt. Worth, KCM, 1985, audiotape #01-4404, side 1.)

Since the source of God’s power is Copeland’s divine, godly, spiritual, faith, He teaches believers can speak the desires of their heart into existence…

“What you are saying is exactly what you are getting now. If you are living in poverty and lack and want, change what you are saying…. The powerful force of the spiritual world that creates the circumstances around us is controlled by the words of the mouth.” – Kenneth Copeland, “The Laws of Prosperity, Ft. Worth: Kenneth Copeland Publications, 1974.

“You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth.” – Kenneth Copeland, ‘Inner Image of the Covenant,’ side 2.

“God used words when He created the heaven and the earth… Each time God spoke, He released His faith — the creative power to bring His words to pass.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1980), pg. 4.

Because Copeland is God and is so divine with the faith of our creator God, He claims God is the biggest failure…

“I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is… The biggest one in the whole Bible is God… I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least – that’s a big loss, man…. Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure.  And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one.” – Ken Copeland, Audio-Clip “Christianity in Crisis,” Hank Hanegraaff.

(Hear him say part of the quote above by clicking here.)

This is a different gospel; a different message; a different good news contrary to what the Apostles preached. As the Apostle Paul said,

“Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” Galatians 1:7-9

JESUS ACCORDING TO COPELAND

Copeland teaches Jesus was rich and His death did not atone for our sins and that Jesus became demon possessed or satanic on the cross.

“It takes money to preach the gospel.  Jesus Himself knew that, and contrary to what some people think, His ministry was not a poor one.  He had so much money coming in and going out through His ministry that He had to appoint a treasurer.  His name was Judas.” – Kenneth Copeland, From Faith to Faith – A Daily Guide to Victory, 05/12/?.

“It would have been impossible for Jesus to have been poor!” – Kenneth Copeland, Calvary Contender, 15/02/93.

“Because his physical death was not enough for the payment of sins there was a another way for sins payment. Jesus put Himself into the hands of Satan when He went to that cross, and took that same nature that Adam did [when he sinned].” – Kenneth Copeland, The Incarnation, Frt. Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, audiotape: #01-0402, Side 1, 1985.

“JESUS “HAD TO GIVE UP HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS” – Kenneth Copeland, The Incarnation, Frt. Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, audiotape #01-0402, 1985, side 2.

He teaches Jesus was damned to hell…

“He [Jesus] allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell….He allowed Himself to come under Satan’s control…every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him….They tortured Him beyond anything anybody had ever conceived. For three days He suffered everything there is to suffer.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Price of it All, pg. 3.

… And for Jesus to die and go to hell, Copeland teaches that Jesus lost his divine nature…

“There is no more sacrifice beyond this [the cross] because God has given Himself. There’s not any further that God can go ’cause that is part of Himself hanging on that cross. And the very inside of God, hanging on that cross, is severed from Him and in that moment of severing, the spirit of Jesus accepting that sin and making it to be sin, He’s separated from His God at that moment. He’s a mortal man; capable of failure, capable of death. Not only that, but He’s fixing on being ushered into the very jaws of hell. And if Satan is capable of overpowering Him there, he will win the universe and mankind is doomed.” – Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne?, Frt. Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, n.d., cassette tape, side 2. (Emphasis mine)

D.R McConnell, author of the must-read book ‘A Different Gospel’, writes,

“Kenneth Copeland is even more direct in denying the atoning efficacy of Christ’s blood: “Jesus went into hell to free mankind from the penalty of Adam’s high treason… When His blood poured out it did not atone. . . . Jesus spent three horrible days and nights in the bowels of this earth getting back for you and me our rights with God.”” – D .R. McConnell, A Different Gospel, 1988, pg. 120. (Ref: 28: Personal letter from Kenneth Copeland, Ft. Worth, Tex., March 12, 1979; italics added for emphasis.)

To demonstrate that we’re not being selective with the quotes of Kenneth Copeland, Copeland reiterated to the Christian Research Institute (CRI),

“When Jesus was made to be sin; He was separated from God. This is the reason while hanging on the cross, Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?” He had finished the Abrahamic Covenant by becoming the last sacrifice to ever be offered. When His blood was poured out, it did not atone, it did away with the handwriting of the ordinances that were against us. Jesus spent three horrible days and nights in the bowels of this earth getting back for you and me our rights with God.” – Kenneth Copeland, From letter to CRI, March 12, 1979.

Because Copeland does not believe in the atoning power of the blood, he teaches,

“Because his physical death was not enough for the payment of sins there was a another way for sins payment. Jesus put Himself into the hands of Satan when He went to that cross, and took that same nature that Adam did [when he sinned].” – Kenneth Copeland, The Incarnation, Kenneth Copeland Ministries, audiotape #01-0402, 1985, side 1.

“Jesus death on the cross was not enough to save us.” – Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne?, Tape #00-0303), Believer’s Voice of Victory, September 1991.

“It wasn’t the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin … anybody could do that.” – What Satan saw on the day of Pentecost, Tape #02-0022.

We can conclude that he does not know Jesus, the gospel and the atonement.

THE HOLY SPIRIT ACCORDING TO COPELAND

So where did Copeland get his teachings? From another spirit. As Copeland confesses boldly:

“The spirit of God spoke to me. And He said, “Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let tradition trip you up.” He said, “Think this way—a twice born man whipped Satan in his own domain.” And I threw my Bible down and I said, ”What?”

He said, ”A born again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.” He said, ”you are the very image, the very copy of that one.” I said, ”Goodness, gracious sakes alive!”

And I begin to see what had gone on in there, and I said, ”Well now you don’t mean, you dare not mean, that I could have done the same thing?” He said,  ”Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that he did, you could’ve done the same thing, cause you’re a reborn man too.” – Kenneth Copeland, Substitution and identification, tape#00-0202, side 2.

We know this is another spirit because it is not speaking on behalf of the Father and Son, but on its own accord (emphasis mine):

“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.” John 16:13

Faith is not a force. Faith in Greek is πίστις which is pistis. The basic definition of pistis is ‘trust’. However, Jesus is the OBJECT of our faith. Jesus is not only our faith but graces us with the faith to believe in Him through His Spirit (Galatians 5:22; Ephesians 2:8). This is done so the Spirit can keep us in Christ and to keep pointing us to Christ (John 16:7-15). Jesus’ name is also ‘Faithful and True’ (Revelations 19:16) and his cross has demonstrated the loving, living faithfulness of God. Jesus is alive and IS the substance of our faith in which we hope for. The point is – God does not NEED faith, He is faith and the source of faith on which we rely.

In saying this, what is the spirit behind Copeland’s doctrines? His doctrines of Jesus, the cross, genesis, man and faith, can be traced to Gnosticism, New Age, through New Thought into the camp of the occult. Does this sound like teachings you would hear from the bible?

“The force of faith is released by words. Faith-filled words put the law of the Spirit of life into operation.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Force Of Faith, Frt. Worth, KCM, 1983.

“What you are saying is exactly what you are getting now. If you are living in poverty and lack and want, change what you are saying…. The powerful force of the spiritual world that creates the circumstances around us is controlled by the words of the mouth.” (The Laws of Prosperity, Kenneth Copeland, Ft. Worth: Kenneth Copeland Publications, 1974). – Kenneth Copeland, The Laws Of Prosperity, Frt. Worth, KCM, 1980.

“Faith is a power force. It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Faith, Frt. Worth, KCP Publications, 1989, pg. 10.

You can see Copeland’s teachings manifest Gnosticism as he does his best to explore the knowledge of his understanding of this unbiblical, creative, faith ‘force’.

“Faith is a spiritual force….It is substance. Faith has the ability to effect natural substance.” – Kenneth Copeland, Forces of the Created Human Spirit, Frt. Worth, KCM, 1982, pg. 8.

“The force of gravity… makes the law of gravity work… this force of faith…makes the laws of the spirit world function.” – Kenneth Copeland, Laws of Prosperity, Frt. Worth, KCP Publications, 1974, pg. 18-19.

“Faith is God’s source of power.” – Kenneth Copeland, Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, Frt. Worth: KCM, 1982, pg. 8.

“Everything that you’re able to see or touch, anything that you can feel, anything that’s perceptive to the five physical senses, was originally the faith of God, and was born in the substance of God’s faith.” – Kenneth Copeland, Spirit, Soul Body, Frt. Worth: KCM, 1985, audiotape #01-0601, side 1.

“Faith was the raw material substance that the Spirit of God used to form the universe.” – Kenneth Copeland, Authority of the Believer II, Frt. Worth, KCM, 1987, audiotape #01-0302), side 1.

“God used words when He created the heaven and the earth… Each time God spoke, He released His faith — the creative power to bring His words to pass.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, Frt. Worth: KCP Publications, 1980, pg. 4.

“Words are spiritual containers” – Kenneth Copeland, Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 1982, pg. 15; cf. 14.

“The force of faith is released by words. Faith-filled words put the law of the Spirit of life into operation.” – Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Faith, Frt. Worth, KCP Publications, 1989, pg. 18.

“The day that Jesus was crucified, God’s life, that eternal energy .. moved out of Him and He allowed the devil to drag him into the depths of hell as if He were the most wicked sinner who ever lived..[and] to come under Satan’s control .. [or] His body would have never died. …” – Kenneth Copeland, Believer’s Voice of Victory, [Quoted in Berean Call] September, 1991.

It is clear to see that Copeland preaches a different gospel and a different Jesus under a different spirit not of gone. It is safe to say, judging by the bible that Kenneth Copeland disqualifies himself to be called a Christian. Therefore he is a false teacher and is sending people to hell with his false teachings and false prophecies. Even more importantly are the dates of the above quotes of Copeland. Pringle had him speak in C3 Brookvale in the 1990s and endorses him in his books in 2005. So after all Copeland has said and done and the criticism he has received, Pringle endorses him.

One has to ask the questions: Why does Phil Pringle associate himself with Kenneth Copeland? Why does he call him brother and considers his messages prophetic? If pastors were preaching against him, why does Pringle endorse him and promote him?

We have to come to a grim conclusion that Phil Pringle endorses Kenneth Copeland and “participates in his evil deeds” as the scriptures say. This is a serious evil Pringle has chosen to partake in.

Why is this evil? I can personally give an example of this. I know a family who attended Christian City Church. They came to love Kenneth Copeland through Pringle’s association. The mother took the Copeland’s teachings to heart and introduced his false faith teachings to her family. Their family started a church seperate from C3 who refered often to Copeland. The mother found out she had a fatal sickness and relied on her faith alone to heal her. She died causing much division in this church, troubling others and leaving behind a deep sadness when she passed away. In spite of her authoritative nature when it came to Copelands teaching on faith(which was frightening), she was very hospitable, gentle and inclusive. She was loved by all of us when she passed away. I had no idea that she found Copeland through Pringle’s endorsement of him. Would she be alive today if Copeland was not endorsed by Pringle?

We encourage ANYONE who is moved by the grim facts about the spiritual status of Pringle and the C3 movement, to pray for them.

Pray that he repents, turns away from Copeland and re-examines his theological understanding of the scriptures. We will examine Pringle’s theology and see how much Word of Faith teachers influence his theology.

NOTE: We wish to thank LetUsReason and DeceptionInTheChurch for      helping us with part of our research efforts. We wish to leave more  quotes from Kenneth Copeland in the comment section for C3ChurchWatchresearch purposes.

MacDougalls Testimony Of Pringle’s Early Beginnings

10 Saturday Mar 2012

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A subscriber to C3 Church Watch gave us some interesting insight to the Pringle’s beginnings.

“In Phil’s book he talks about hundreds of converts coming into the church after he was saved. The first ‘hippy’ type convert at the AOG Sydneham, Christchurch at that time was a guy called Leigh Hoskins. who had a more dramatic experience than Phil. Leigh took me along the night he was saved . I was saved about three weeks after Leigh. I was the second hippy type convert at that time. Leigh used to winess to me nearly every day so effectively he was the catalyst for the revival. Leigh and I witnessed to scores of people before Phil and Chris came to church and already young people were coming in. Phil and Chris personally didn’t bring large numbers in but the church was already starting to multiply. Our church wasn’t the only one with this sort of revival. Ray Comfort was saved at the same time in another church on the otherside of town with a similar ‘revival’. The effectiveness of the Pringle’s early ‘ministry’ is highly debatable as most of their ‘disciples’ drifted by the wayside. Even their best friends and first converts, Wayne and Anne Tyndale dropped out after a couple of years and the last I heard several years ago they were still backslidden.” – Gary MacDougall, http://www.facebook.com/groups/c3churchwatch/291925204197120/, 6:24pm, 24/01/2012. (Accessed 11/03/2012)

Below is an article of what C3 wants you to read about their beginnings. Read this to compare the differences of reporting between the events.

The History of Phil Pringle & The C3 Movement

Gary MacDougall has politely provided his insight and his testimony in that time period. Thank you Mr MacDougall for your honesty, work, time and integrity.

Gary MacDougall Testimony

I was born again about 35 years ago at AOG, Sydneham, Christchurch, New Zealand, in the seventies hippy era. The first ‘hippy’ type convert at the AOG Sydneham, Christchurch, where I was born again, at that time, was a guy called Leigh Hoskins. Leigh had a far more dramatic experience than myself or Phil and Chris Pringle of C3 Church, and all other converts who started coming. Leigh took me along to the AOG church, the night he was saved . In fact I had just returned from Auckland, doing a meditation course, and was waiting for a taxi at the Christchurch train station at about 7.15pm on a Thursday night, over 35 years ago, when Leigh drove by and stopped to talk to me. I had never met Leigh before but a mutual friend was with him in his little car. Leigh was on his way to AOG for the Thursday night young people’s meeting at 7.30pm. Leigh had the longest and thickest hair I have ever seen on a male (in real life and in photos) and this guy was really wild!

Why would he be going to church? On the previous Tuesday night he took enough LSD to last 48 hours. As soon as his trip started he saw flames and demons around him and he thought he was in hell. However when he was a child he went to Sunday school and, at that time, his mother had been praying and fasting for forty days for his salvation. Leigh called out to Jesus as loud as he could at the beginning of his ‘hell experience.’ …”Jesus”, “Jesus”, ‘Jesus save me” he called out for help. His trip instantly stopped, when he mentioned the name of Jesus, which is obviously a miracle. He then rang the AOG church because his mother belonged to that denomination and she was attending another AOG church in the North Island. A deacon from the  church told Leigh to go along on the next Thursday night which was the  divine appointment whereby I met him i.e. two days after Leigh’s ‘hell experience.’ Leigh’s actually going to church was another miracle because the devil had two days to talk him out of it. Leigh was saved that night when we attended the young people’s meeting. By the way the conservative, young church folk at that time had never before seen anything like us guys up close with our long hair and hippy clothes. Leigh used to come round and talk to me about Jesus regularly and I could see that he was transformed. Leigh experienced a more dramatic conversion than myself, the Pringles or any others who followed. A church member bought him a whole new set of clothes when he was first saved and after about two weeks he had full haircut i.e. short back insides. He brought many people into our church. I was saved about three weeks after Leigh . It took many months for myself and Phil Pringle to get our hair trimmed and then only gradually. Although at the beginning I did have a clean shave and got rid of my beard. Phil had long hair for quite a while indicating that the inner transformation was slow. Leigh was quickly transformed in his heart and life.

The church already had about 200-250 solid members when Leigh and I  joined.  Leigh was witnessing full time and effectively he was the catalyst for the revival at AOG , Sydneham. He was the original young evangelist of the church and because he had such a dramatic outward appearance change he was effective with his old friends. I believe the ’revival’ at AOG Sydneham began through Leigh Hoskins although others have taken credit for it. When saved I joined up with Leigh with evangelizing. When I was first saved for the first two years or so I spent about 5-6 hours per day praying and reading the word and then a few hours evangelizing and attending meetings at our church and others nearly every day of the week. I walked-no bicycle just walking. The Pringles were more upmarket than myself-they had bicycles. It used to take me about a 45 minute walk each way to church from where I lived with another couple of stronger Christian guys. Leigh and I witnessed to scores of people before Phil and Chris Pringle of C3 Church came to our church several weeks after I was saved and already young people were coming into AOG Sydenham. Phil and Chris personally didn’t bring large numbers in but the church was already starting to multiply. Leigh and I motivated Phil and Chris with evangelizing. However before we came along the church had a few really effective and dedicated personal evangelists, one of them being Morrie Tattle, a businessman who was the man who helped Leigh with his new clothes. The church also had a lot of serious prayer warriors and dedicated Christians. The prayer warriors were the key to the ‘revival’ but everyone forgets them and pat themselves on the back and blow their own trumpets.

Whilst Leigh had a dramatic outward change it took some time before he was baptized and a couple of years to sort out his life towards normality. In my own personal case, if I said I was zapped the night I was saved, healed, delivered and baptized, I would be dead set the world’s biggest liar and con. It didn’t happen that way. God does NOT wave a magic wand. From a hippy type lifestyle one inherits many evil influences and even evil spirits. It took many months for me to be healed in my mind from the effects of drugs and about one year  to be completely delivered. It took about one year before I was baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit. This is logical…because of my lifestyle I had some evil spirit possession. A Christian needs to be set free of this before being filled with the Holy Spirit. Physically I could not do any more, as I was praying and reading the word to the max…and also fasting a lot-up to 21 days. However God works in His way and own time to heal and release us. Basically there are no Hollywood style dramatic zappings.

Our church wasn’t the only one with this sort of revival. Ray Comfort was saved at the same time in another church on the other side of town with a similar ‘revival’. The Elim church in N.Z. also experienced a revival at the same time.

Peter Morrow’s New Life Centre had about ten times the number of people in their main church and it was experiencing growth as well. That church had some fantastic Christians with amazing testimonies as well.

As I went to all the meetings in the years of the revival in our church I was there the night Phil and Chris Pringle of C3 Church were saved.  Phil talks about the night he was saved and claims he was delivered and filled with the Holy Spirit and all his problems taken away that night. Anyone reading this would think it was a Damascus Road experience like the Apostle Paul. Wrong!  The main deacon who counseled him that night told me personally that Phil was only counseled about salvation. I spoke to the Pringle’s after their salvation also that night and it was exciting they were saved but from my recollection nothing like what Phil describes in his book. I encouraged them to keep coming back and eventually after considerable time they had some deliverance and were filled with the Holy Spirit. In those days at our church ‘deliverance’ was not done the way Jesus did by just rebuking the devils. The deacons used to jump up and down shouting at the demons, pleading the blood and shaking you. I know first hand because I went through this sort of carry on myself. It usually took a few hours and was not instantaneous as in Bible days.

Peter Driscoll and John Graham were the youth leaders and had been for a long time and were great Christian leaders in our church. They were also good teachers of sound doctrine. However the pastors of the church, the Barton’s, tried to push the Pringles into their position. It was like two young people’s groups contending for the new converts, within the church. This was one of the reasons the Barton’s were voted out of the church by the members.

Also the members didn’t like the way the Bartons were focusing on the Pringles at the expense of the rest of the flock. The Bartons also used the Church’s money to buy a large house, called Hebron House, for the Pringles and new converts.  There was a lot of flack about that , especially as the real estate agent was a member within our church. Hebron house eventually became a burden for the church and the church ditched it. Of Course the agent in the church sold it.

Fortunately in my early Christian life I went to the sound teaching meetings of Peter Driscoll and John Graham and didn’t get led astray by the crazy stuff going on at Hebron House where the Pringles were operating. The Pringle’s could not teach sound doctrine to the new converts as they were only learning themselves. They had many problems themselves and were basically transferring that to new converts. If the new converts had been exposed to the sound teaching meetings of Peter and John they would probably be Christians today as most of the new Christians under the Pringle’s “ministry” at Hebron House, backslid. Also they had come from strong New age and hippy backgrounds and weren’t delivered from those influences at the time. The effectiveness of the Pringle’s early ‘ministry’ is highly debatable as most of their ‘disciples’ drifted by the wayside. Even their best friends and first converts, Wayne and Anne Tyndale dropped out after a couple of years and the last I heard several years ago they were still backslidden.

The Pringles were a big factor in the split of the church when the Bartons and Pringles left. The Pringles influenced most of the young people to leave as well but I stayed at the church until many years later and then I moved to Australia. In fact the split caused by the Pringles and Bartons, also caused John Graham and Peter Driscoll to leave the church  as well, which was a pity. The scenario with the Pringles and Bartons sent the church into turmoil and it took about a year to stabilize.

Fortunately in my early Christian life, I met an elderly Christian man, similar to Job in the Bible, who lived next door to where I was living. He helped stabilize my Christian life while the disruptions in the church were occurring. For 2-3 years I used to go to his house for a couple of hours at a time for extra bible study. He was house bound due to sickness and I was his only visitor apart from his son who visited maybe twice a year. No-one from his church visited him.

I also had regular spiritual support from a strong Christian couple and from time to time even scored a lift by car to and from church. That was great because it saved the 45 minute walk each way. But the downside was I couldn’t witness when going by car, like I could when walking.

During this time I was living by faith. The Pringles and other new converts at Hebron House had their needs supplied by the church, which funded everything for the house group. Maybe at this stage the Pringles realized you could live off the church and even make money through it. I had to daily believe God for my needs and of course he provided. I did not have to bludge money out of the church. God was my source. In fact I never had any support from the church. God miraculously provided.

When my elderly neighbour died I stayed with the elderly deaconess of our church in a self contained flat under her house on the hill overlooking the city. By then I had progressed to a bicycle and used to bike all around the city delivering tracts which I produced and paid for myself. My first tract, which I had printed about the time the Pringles were saved, was a black and white one called “Hippie redeemed from Destruction” with before and after photos of myself. I think I had about  5,000 of those printed which I personally handed out. My next one was similar but with the title “Searching”, with the before and after photos. I maybe had 10,000 of those printed and I personally gave out. Then I did one with a red cover with the word “Revolution…” on the front. (this was the time of Chairman Mao). Inside as part of the “revolution…” I had  “…of Love” and the story of God’s love. Then I had printed a four sided booklet in full colour titled “The Desert Shall Blossom as The Rose” with my testimony again. I had 25,000 printed and personally gave out each one. Then before I moved to Australia I printed a dramatic black and white with the words “IF you Died in the Next Two Minutes Where would you spend Eternity?” I printed enough for every single Post Office box in New Zealand and paid NZ post a fee to deliver. That one was very effective.

While all these things were happening and a couple of years after I was saved I started studying landscaping and eventually expanded into Australia and moved over to Brisbane to start a new business there designing landscapes. In Brisbane

I attended Garden City Church which is an AOG and later Christian Outreach Centre. I ended up getting some work opportunities on the Gold Coast , one hour from Brisbane and started my business there and became very successful on the Gold Coast. About six years ago, the pastor of the AOG church I was attending, had an outreach in Vietnam and I ended up funding the venture and his trip and coming over with him. On that trip I came in contact with a client doing a big project and started coming over every 2-3 months. I met my Vietnamese wife here and got married and moved over and started building up business in Vietnam. Now I design landscapes in Vietnam and live in Nha Trang near the central Coast. In fact the city is similar to what the Gold Coast was like 20 years ago. I now attend the Evangelical Church of Vietnam.”

C3 Leader Joe Pringle Sings In The Dark, “We Are The Light”

31 Saturday Dec 2011

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James White says the following:

Joe Pringle sings likewise:
Joe Pringle will be heard singing the above song (aka Sydney’s New Years Eve anthem) ‘We are The Light’ on New Years Eve 2011. For information, read the Sydney Media and Sydney Morning Herald reports here:
Sydney Media said the anthem was made to “raise money for international humanitarian aid organisation“. Ironically, the singer of this song Joe Pringle, is part of the global C3 Movement that financially exploits the poor. The head of the C3 movement, Phil Pringle is Joe Pringle’s father. These articles below are just some of the articles that reveal how Phil Pringle uses Christianity and the Christian bible to financially exploit the poor in his own church:
Phil Pringle endorses the conduct of his son. Phil tweets:
“Feeling pretty proud of son @JosephPhilip83 singing Syd Nu Yr anthem wit Liz Botanic & an Aus Chldrn’s Choir. http://bit.ly/vr4W59 Go Joe” – Phil Pringle, Twitter, https://twitter.com/#!/philpringle/status/142386986353823744, 02/12/2011.  (Accessed 20/12/2011)
This is concerning. The lyrics to the song contradict the foundational teachings and philosophy of Christianity. Here are the lyrics, (read here: http://www.sydneynewyearseve.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Anthem-Lyrics.pdf?9d7bd4):
We Are The Light by Nick Wood
Night full of wonder, like the stars that jewel the sky
A world of beauty, with eyes that shine so bright
Let’s walk together, come, put your hand in mine
We’ll kiss the future, we’re gonna make some history tonight
 
We are the light, we are the light
We are the light, we are the light
 
Time to dream, time to touch the sky
Now’s the moment to believe, this is the night
With power, and glory, shine like shooting stars
Come on, we are the future, yes it’s time to dream
 
We are the light, we are the light
We are the light, we are the light
Life is a journey, and we’ve got so far to go
The seeds we planted, need our love to prosper and to grow
The world keeps spinning, to the heartbeat of time
Let’s kiss the future, we’re gonna make some history tonight
Time to dream, time to touch the sky
Now’s the moment to believe, this is the night
With power, and glory, shine like shooting stars
Come on, we are the future, yes it’s time to dream
 
We are the light, we are the light
We are the light, we are the light
 
Shine bright tonight
We are the light, we are the light
Shine bright tonight
THE CHRIST-LIGHT AND DARK-SIN
It makes perfect sense that the world would write a song like this. It’s catchy, motivational and appealing to the flesh. To a certain extent, we can see Christian themes through this song. However it is important to understand that Joe Pringle is seen in the C3 Movement and in other churches globally as an influential worship leader and teacher. So what is so concerning about Joe Pringle singing this song as a Christian teacher and worship leader?
Jesus says,
“But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!” Jesus, Matthew 6:23
“See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness.” Luke 11:35
While Jesus tells people to make sure ‘the light within you is not darkness‘, Joe Pringle is reinforcing in non-believers that non-believers are ‘the light‘. This contradicts the fundamental teachings of Jesus and the Christian message, that all man is in darkness and is in need of a Saviour.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.” – Apostle John, John 1:1-5
The darkness being referred to here is sinful mankind. As John says later in John 1,
“There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.” – Apostle John, John 1:9-10
To this day, Christians believe that mankind is in darkness until Christ enlightens and redeems the individual who comes to know Jesus as their True Light. Jesus said,
“This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. “For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. “But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.” – Jesus, John 3:19-21
Jesus is the only man that is not in darkness and is revealed in scripture as the only one who is the Light of God and the Light of The World.

“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” – Jesus,  John 8:12

“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” – Jesus, John  9:5

“I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness.” – Jesus, John 12:46

LIGHT AND DARKNESS DON’T MIX
It is wrong for Joe Pringle to sing a song like this that opposes a foundational biblical truth to the Christian faith. If he believes what he is singing to be true about the spiritual state of Sydney then he is either ignorant, deceived or hypocritical. Is it not the desire of a worship leader to see people give glory to Jesus? Joe Pringle seems to think likewise (as does Phil Pringle).
If Joe Pringle loves Jesus and considers himself as a disciple of Jesus, why is he not being obedient to God through Jesus, John and Paul’s instructions?
“Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” – John, 1 John 2:15
Has Joe Pringle compromised his love for God by choosing the road of popularity?
“Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said…” – Apostle Paul, 2 Corinthians 6:14
It is clear that Joe Pringle strayed from God’s Word. What’s worse is that his father Phil Pringle did not correct him but instead bragged publicly of his sons error. Both have strayed from Paul’s instructions and were tempted and excited by such a worldly offer:
“Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them; for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light (for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth), trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light… Therefore be careful how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, making the most of your time, because the days are evil. So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.” – Paul, Ephesians 5:6-17
Joe Pringle is singing a message that would only cloud and confound believers and nonbelievers. He is confusing the message of the gospel that the church is meant to uphold and deliver with clarity. This is not of God.
“… For God is not a God of confusion but of peace…” – 1 Corinthians 14:33

John the Apostle says,

“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.” – Apostle John, 1 John 4:1-6

The Apostle John rightly exposes the antichrist spirit. The spirit behind the song Joe Pringle sung denies Jesus. If fallen mankind is the light, why bother confessing Jesus Christ at all? Why is Jesus necessary to a world believing that their sin and darkness is light? The world will happily believe the lie that the darkness they are in is light to justify their darkness over the true Light of Christ.

Joe Pringle and Phil Pringle failed to ‘test the spirits behind the song to see whether they are from God‘. It is sad to see these leaders who many believe represent the church, dilute the gospel message for worldly gain. They are partaking in the lie, denying that the world is in sin and claiming sinners are the light.

As head of the C3 movement, Phil Pringle is endorsing a highly ungodly message sung by his son. Pringle has chosen to let this happen in his church. Phil and Joe Pringle are rejecting the message of Christ BEING the light to save sinners and only promoting a message that is against the light of Christ. They have sadly demonstrated in this instance that they are deceiving themselves.

If led, please pray for Joe Pringle and Phil Pringle. May this NYE message not be a preview of what this year holds with the teachings in C3.