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Phil Pringle’s Possible Further Negligence Regarding Kong Hee’s Investigation

28 Tuesday Aug 2012

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We have already covered that Phil Pringle neglected to inform Christians around the world about Kong Hee’s investigations:

Empty your Bank Account | Phil Pringle’s negligence in allowing Kong Hee to fleece at Presence 2012

How Can Kong Hee Say “I Do Maintain My Integrity”(Part 3)

We now wish to inform you of a group called Pathfinders.

Pathfinders says about itself:

“Pathfinders is the marketplace ministry arm of C3 Church. Equipping our people to thrive in the marketplace is one of the core strands of the C3 Church DNA. This includes people in business, professions, government, education, the arts, sports and entertainment.

Our objectives in Pathfinders are that all of our marketplace people:

1. prosper in their career or business,
2. bring light and life to their work and business environment,
3. bring Godly wisdom and influence to change their corner of the world for God” – http://www.pathfinders.org.au/#/about-us, (Accessed 28/08/2012.)

In C3 Presence Conference this year, it is important to know that C3 targets the rich in their church and financially manipulates them to financially invest in the C3 movement. Strong words? Then you need to watch how cunning Pringle is when he chooses to target people to give money for the building fund here. This link will play this video. (Transcript below.)

Terrence [To audience]: “… But one thing we [C3] are about, (and which I’m sure you know), we’re all about the market place. Now there’s certain people in the House of God which fund the House of God because they do so well and they’re so successful in business that they have the mulah to be able to fund the Kingdom. And one of those kings we have right here is Mr Andrew Tyndale. Come and join us Andrew! How are you today?”

Emma: “We love you Andrew.”

Tyndale: “I’m sure I’m here under false pretences but that’s all right.”

Terrence: “There’s no false pretences here at all. Now Andrew, you look after and head up Pathfinders. Can you tell us a little bit about what Pathfinders is, for those who may not know.”

Tyndale: “Sure! Well Pathfinders is one of the three DNA strands that we have. So we have community partnerships- sorry. Kingdom partnerships, community heroes and the marketplace. So Pathfinders is our marketplace ministry. So that serves people in business skills. It serves them with ah, success skills and empowerment for their job, their career, their- and to make a difference in their world.”

Terrence: “Ooo we like that. So it’s building people up so they can go and make a difference in the community and also in church in their business. Yeah?

Tyndale: “Absolutely! So firstly so that they can thrive. Secondly, so that they can touch people who will never otherwise come to church. And thirdly, so that they can use their influence to change the world for the better.”

Terrence: “Ooh! We like that! So we just had a Pathfinders Conference ah- well you can say meeting just before. Can you tell those who are watching, maybe they’re watching from overseas, and would like to implement a sort of business meeting in their church; how can they get involved with a Pathfinders? Or kick off something like Pathfinders?”

Tyndale: “Well we would encourage everybody in the C3 movement to have a Pathfinders group; a Pathfinders program. And Pastor Phil in fact laid out a program where each pastor who doesn’t yet have a Pathfinders could- should start a business connect group. Start a connect group of business people and really speak into their worlds. Just as a start. And let that kick it off and roll. We have a whole series of programs we’d be very pleased to share. So anybody who’s actually out there in the world watching this, we’d be delighted to share with other churches and really roll the programs out throughout the network.” . . .

Terrence: “Fantastic. Now. I want to inspire people. Cos we normally don’t talk- I mean when we have our business- ah sorry- our building fund, we sort of talk about the numbers that people give to the church. Can you talk about some of the people that come to Pathfinders and how much they contribute to the house of God. Just to inspire people what’s possible?”

Tyndale: “I would but I’d have to kill you.”

Terrence: “Oh Lord! Don’t do that!”

Tyndale: “Look. It’s clear that the largest givers in any building program are the business people, in most cases. And they’re the people who both- both give to begin with and grow in their giving as their career prospers as a result of the giving. So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. A self-sustaining cycle so that ah- it ultimately- then you get leaders who are drawing other peoples- ah examples for other people to draw them through. And the cycle continues. But ah- for those who are running building programs, you’re business people are the core and the key to it.”

So what’s this got to do with Kong Hee?

Here is a photo of Kong Hee with guest speaker Marcos Witt in Presence Conference 2011. It seems innocent enough.

Until the photographer takes another photo further back. This time Phil Pringle is with the other two.

What was talked about? We don’t know. Going on what Tyndale stated above, there is a good chance Kong Hee would have talked about peoples “success skills and empowerment for their job, their career… and to make a difference in their world.” If this is true then readers need to be concerned that C3 is targeting “people in business, professions, government.” Especially since The Hon. Andrew Stoner MP (Minister for Trade and Investment), is involved with C3 and their Presence Conferences.

Pringle’s behaviour from the beginning of Kong Hee’s investigations to now raises some hairy questions.

If Stoner attended the Pathfinders meeting(s), did Pringle honestly inform Stoner the current status of Kong Hee?

Because we don’t know what was said at the Pathfinders event at Presence, did Pringle state the current circumstances about Kong Hee honestly to those attending? But did Kong Hee speak at Pathfinders in Presence Conference 2010? Did Kong Hee speak at Pathfinders in Presence Conference 2012? Did Pringle honestly give people the facts then at these events if Kong Hee spoke?

Is it possible that people in the Australian government were not aware that Pringle invited a man that was under investigation by Singaporeon authorities for the possible mishandling of about fifty million dollars?

NOTE: ALL SCREEN GRABS WERE TAKEN ON THE 28/08/2012.

Phil Pringle On Facebook

15 Thursday Dec 2011

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Phil Pringle’s Facebook info reveals a bit about himself. We will be relying on this information for future articles in regards who he likes being associated with and the origins of his church. Readers will learn later how Phil Pringle did not start C3 Church in Australia but actually failed in his attempt to start a church in Sydney. Instead, he was trusted to a church which he later overtook that caused that church to split.

However, Phil Pringle’s biography on Facebook reads:

“Phil Pringle is the Founder and President of C3 Church International, a global movement of over 240 churches, and the Senior Minister of C3 Church in Sydney Australia. Phil and his wife, Christine, started C3 Church in 1980 and it is now one of the fastest growing, exciting and powerful churches in Australia. An entire global movement of vibrant churches has been birthed as a result of Phil’s lead…ership and vision as he maintains an uncompromised passion to see cities changed by a contemporary, relevant and anointed church. Phil’s dynamic and relevant preaching has made him a much sought after speaker in both Christian and secular contexts, particularly in the areas of faith, leadership, ministry of the Holy Spirit, church building and kingdom principles of finance and giving.

My wife, Chris and I, with the kids and some good friends came to Sydney from New Zealand in 1980 to start a church. We had 13 people at our first service but the congregation grew rapidly and we moved buildings, bought land and built a school. We began planting churches around Sydney, then Australia, then the world; we now have close to 300 congregations in our movement. Our 2020 Vision is to plant and grow 1000 churches and we’re on target to meet this!

We’ve started C3 College for Ministry, Creative Arts and Counselling, as well as a television program and Oxford Falls Grammar School, all on around 25 acres at Oxford Falls.

I’ve always been passionate about the arts playing a major role in church to make her contemporary and relevant to the current world. Our Creative Arts stream has developed and graduated thousands of musicians, worship leaders, song writers, graphic artists, dancers, actors and film makers. I myself paint and exhibit around the world. I also love to write, so I’ve mixed these two elements together in books like Inspired to Pray, But God and 24 Hours That Saved The World – The Gospel of John in Art. My other books include Faith, Moving in the Spirit, Leadership Excellence, Financial Excellence, Leadership Files and You the Leader.

My great love is the local church. I believe she is the hope of our world today. When she functions in the power of the Holy Spirit and lives on the Word she will thrive. See you in Church!” – Phil Pringle, Biography, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phil-Pringle/181344135208983?v=info. (Accessed 03/12/2011)

Phil Pringle says he likes:

“The Bible, Kari Jobe, Australia, Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke – Official Page, Planetshakers, Kathryn Kuhlman, Paramore, DON MOEN (Praise & Worship Leader), David Yonggi Cho, A. R. Bernard, Kenneth Hagin, Jesus Culture, delirious, Brooke Fraser, hillsong united, Billy Graham, City News, City Harvest Church (Official), Joel Osteen Ministries, Hillsong Live, Smith Wigglesworth, Kong Hee, Kim Walker, Taste Media, C3 Church, C3 Church Hong Kong, Joyce Meyer Ministries, T.D. Jakes Ministries/The Potter’s House, John Bevere, Ooosh!, A. R. Bernard, Sun Ho (Official), Kong Hee, Bill Johnson, Marcos Witt, Chris Pringle” – Phil Pringle, Biography, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phil-Pringle/181344135208983?v=info. (Accessed 03/12/2011)

Ministers that Pringle likes and often endorses in his ministry are David Yonngi Cho, Kenneth Hagin, Hillsong, Kong Hee and his City Harvest Church, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, John Bevere, TD Jakes, Bill Johnson and Marcos Witt. There are extensive articles written on these problematic ‘Christian’ ministers. Later articles will check their doctrines, ministries and practices. It is important to warn anyone about the false Christian TD Jakes (who denies the foundational trinity doctrine to the Christian faith) who Pringle endorses. Not to mention Kenneth Hagin and Kong Hee known worldwide for the plagiarism of other people’s material, who Phil Pringle also endorses. More articles will be written on these people as time goes on.

NOTE: ALL SCREEN GRABS WERE TAKEN BEFORE THE 15/12/2011.