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Charismatic Leader Steven Lambert Versus Charismatic Leader David Yonggi Cho

06 Thursday Mar 2014

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations

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CORRECTION TO THE BELOW ARTICLE

While we do agree with a lot of what Steven Lambert wrote in the below article, we disagree with him on this:

“This one act, as illegal and punishable under law as it is, should not define or diminish his obviously outstanding and meritorious achievements over six decades of pastoral service, particularly in building a church with over one-million members, and his work with Prayer Mountain, which has been a source of spiritual encouragement and edification to millions, including thousands of ministers who have retreated there for refreshment and refiring over the years. The Lord Himself promises in His Word that Pastor Cho’s labors shall not be forgotten by Him, but that there is an eternal record of them in Heaven.“

John the Baptist made it clear to the Pharisees that they needed to show the fruit of repentance if they were truly the Lord’s. (Luke 3:7-9.)

The Pharisees paraded their works before men to convince people that they were God’s teachers and leaders. However, they refused to repent of their false teachings and evil practices.

Similarly, it is not right to call David Yonggi Cho a Christian or a pastor if he has not repented of his false teachings over the last thirty years. Repentance has been lacking in David Yonggi Cho’s ministry since he started preaching the damnable prosperity gospel and his heretical fourth dimension teachings. These are not Christian teachings but echo the teachings of shamanism or gnosticism. (If you would like to see some of the disturbing doctrines David Yonggi Cho teaches, click here.)

Since David Yonggi Cho is unrepentant in his false teachings, should it surprise us that he was unrepentant in his sins when his elders tried to correct him?

It’s hard for us to say this but Jesus and his Apostles would have no issue writing against and condemning the ministry of David Yonggi Cho. David Yonggi Cho’s earthly crime is nothing in comparison to the crimes he has committed before God in heaven. How many people have gone to hell for believing his false gospel? How difficult has David Yonggi Cho made it for Christianity over in South Korea to preach the saving, biblical gospel? How many pastors and leaders has he corrupted with his false gospel and teachings?

According to Paul, a false gospel sends people to hell and as a result, Cho condemns himself. The Lord has made no promise to David Yonggi Cho that his labors will be remembered unless he repents. Pray that David Yonggi Cho repents for his own sake.

Steven Lambert of Spirit Life Magazine writes,

David Yonngi Cho Found Guilty of Embezzlement and Tax-Evasion

yonggi cho jailedAccording to published reports, David Yonngi Cho, 78, pastor of the world’s largest Pentecostal/Charismatic church, Yoido Full Gospel Church in South Korea, was convicted last week of embezzlement and tax-evasion, and sentenced to three years in prison. Cho founded the church that now boasts more than 1 million members, in 1958, and short time afterward affiliated the church with the Assemblies of God Pentecostal denomination.

Reportedly, the crux of the case was a purchase of 250,000 shares of publicly traded stock owned by his oldest son, Cho Hee-jun, which he had originally purchased in 2002, at four times their market value. The elder Cho, according to the charges of which he was convicted ordered church officials to execute the purchase on his behalf, which is illegal and the foundation of the tax-evasion aspect of the case. Apparently, church funds were used to make the purchase in the name of David, who many years ago changed his name from Paul, which was the foundation for the embezzlement aspect of the case.

Cho was also ordered by the judge to pay approximately $4.6 million in fines

Yonhap News Agency reported that in the sentencing phase, the judge expressed his conviction that in view of his status in society, Cho’s punishment for his flagrant breach of trust should be severe, but that his positive contributions to society as pastor of the mega-church for so many decades was deserving of some consideration in terms of punishment, and based on that was levying a lighter sentence for the tax evasion offense than what could have been levied under South Korean law. Cho was also ordered by the judge to pay approximately $4.6 million in fines as part of the adjudication of the case. Cho Hee-jun, Yonngi Cho’s eldest son, who owned the stocks purchased, was also sentenced to three years in prison for his part in the illegal scheme.

In 1996 I authored and published a book titled, CHARISMATIC CAPTIVATION—Authoritarian Abuse & Psychological Enslavement In Neo-Pentecostal Churches, in which I describe a “church growth seminar” I attended in the late 1970s, the featured speaker of which was a then 40-something pastor of the world’s largest Pentecostal/Charismatic church, named (then) Paul Yonngi Cho. I did not name him in the book when it was written, but described him as being “the prominent and highly‑regarded pastor of the world’s largest Charismatic church,” and described the psychological enslavement methodologies and governmental structure system he was touting as, “designed to ensnare members and make it very difficult for them to ever leave the local church.”

Out of deference to Karl Strader, who I then and now regarded as an honorable man, who, in terms of his pastoral ministry, highly values and expounds Biblical truth, I also did not name him in the book as being the senior pastor of the church that hosted these seminars, First Assembly of God in Lakeland, Florida, which some years later purchased and occupied the 10,000-seat Carpenter’s Home facility, which the church, after several church-splits, was subsequently forced to sell. Carpenter’s Home Church was also the host of another controversial occurrence a decade and a half later—the so-called “Laughing Revival” spearheaded by the highly controversial South African evangelist, who with his blatant condescension of other church leaders coupled with hisacutely narcissistic personality managed in a few years to alienate thousands of American pastors, Rodney Howard-Browne, which “revival” spawned (albeit through other principals) the subsequent “Brownsville Revival” and the “Toronto Airport Revival,” to name the best known, along with some other alleged “fire outbreaks” in various parts of this nation and others.

Incredibly, another decade and a half or so later, Karl Strader’s son’s (Stephen Strader) church, was the host of what is arguably the most controversial and damaging so-called “revival” in Pentecostal/Charismatic history, i.e., “The Lakeland Outpouring“(1) as it was hubristically originally called by its organizers, or what it was later called, “The Lakeland Revival,” the principal preacher of which was the tattooed head-to-foot former child molester and mental-illness sufferer weirdo, Todd Bentley, who during the course of the “revival” was carrying on an adulterous affair with a ministry worker that had begun years before, and who also reportedly was inebriated on drugs and alcohol as he ministered in many of the meetings. When the revival abruptly ended as a result of exposure of these and other revelations regarding Bentley, he forged ahead to divorce his wife, leaving their three children without a father, and marry his illicit paramour. Moreover, some of the most mystifying and troublesome controversy swirling around the revival had to do with the very public endorsement (though they denied that’s what it was) of an expansive number of supposed top Charismatic leaders who had been supporters and endorsers of Bentley’s highly controversial, unconventional, and bizarre ministry antics, obvious psychological problems, strange manic-depressive personality quirks, unChrist-like lifestyle, confirmed sexual deviancy (including pedophilia and bisexuality), history of drug, marijuana, and alcohol abuse, and his extreme obsession with physical self-defilement in the form of tattoo-mania that compelled him to cover nearly every inch of his body with weird-looking tattoos, which he often bragged about and showed off to the world in front of cameras at revival meetings; not to mention his illegal physical assaults of people who he kicked and punched as part of what he considered ministry effects, and his constant outright blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in which he attributed his obviously demonic ministry antics and tactics and extremely unbiblical and heretical teachings to the Holy Spirit.

Without any doubt, the Lakeland Revival was one of the saddest, thoroughly humiliating, and egregiously damaging chapter in Charismatic history.

Without any doubt, the Lakeland Revival was one of the saddest, thoroughly humiliating, and egregiously damaging chapter in Charismatic history. It, coupled with the other demonically-inspired controversial occurrences that have emerged out of Lakeland and its environs (eg., the conviction and long-term imprisonment of another of Karl Strader’s sons for illegal business dealings, the aforementioned rancorous splits of First AG of Lakeland, aka, Carpenter’s Home Church, the many wars and rumors of wars associated with the Peninsular Florida District of the Assemblies of God whose headquarters is in Lakeland, the seemingly never-ending Randy and Paula White saga, etc. etc.) and it makes people begin to wonder what is in the water in Lakeland that is causing so much church controversy to rise up out of the small, sleepy Central Florida town.

But, I digress. Returning to the original topic of David Yonngi Cho’s conviction and imprisonment, and what I wrote about him and his fallacious and unbiblical teaching predicated on spiritual abuse he was peddling and proliferating in the United States back in the late 70s during the waning years of the Shepherding Movement, the following is the excerpt about the seminar and book he was promulgating all over this nation and many other nations of the world. I present it here, because I believe now and believed then that while the result of the largest mega-church in the world may appear on the surface to be an unchallengeable and highly meritorious and monumental achievement for those who measure church-building success with the yardstick of size, that standard of measure is often very deceiving, and does not take into account many other factors by which the Head of the Church, the Lord Jesus Christ, measures success. God’s word warns to be sure that your sins will (eventually) find you out. The main underlying fault and flaw with authoritarian abuse, as I’ve done everything I possibly could to tell and warn people, both in the pew and the pulpit, about over nearly four decades of ministry, is the subtle sin of self-aggrandizement and self-centeredness. Spiritual abuse is rooted in the sin of self-love, what the Apostle Paul warned about more than two-thousand years ago would be one of the prime causes of end-times apostasy and “perilous times”:

But realize this, that in the last days difficult (“perilous,” KJV) times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also. (2Ti 3:1-9)

Self-aggrandizement, self-love, arrogance, pride, haughtiness, narcissism, causes people to do things and take actions that they are thoroughly convinced God would want them to do—because after all they are very special—that not only are biblically invalid and improper, but oftentimes, eventually, illegal, and the laws of society or the legal system becomes their judge, when, driven by their self-love and forms thereof, they cross the line, and engage in illegal acts. My personal opinion is that the seeds of self-aggrandizement, pride, and arrogance have always been lurking beneath the surface in the heart of Paul David Yonggi Cho, and that those seeds ultimately produced a crop in the form of embezzlement and tax-evasion, for which ostensibly he will now be punished. And I further believe that his sad and unfortunate story is a warning to others in the ministry who have not yet dealt with their own hidden sin of self-aggrandizement and avarice, and that to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, you can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time, AND be sure that you cannot fool God ANY of the time! God always knows all! If you have larceny in your heart, and you are stealing from people, and doing either unlawful, immoral, or ungodly acts, be sure that your sins WILL find you out! You will not always get away with what you’ve been getting away with; God knows, and some day, so will everyone else!

When pride comes, then comes dishonor, But with the humble is wisdom. (Pro. 11:2)

Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. (Pro. 16:18)

There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers. (Pro. 6:16-19)

You choose: honor or dishonor.

In fact, I will go on the record here and say that someone who will read this article is being strongly warned by God to come clean, and to do it NOW! You may be a VIP in the arena and circles you function in, but that means nothing to God, and you need to come clean, “confess your faults” to someone who you can trust will do what the rest of that verse says, “pray for (you),” that you will stop what you’ve been doing and hiding it, and do the right thing to end the charade. If you do it on your own that is a form of humbling yourself, and God will forgive you and eventually even exalt you; but if you continue on with the deception, God will arrange circumstances that will reveal your sin and humiliate you. You choose: honor or dishonor. Confide in your best friend, Jesus; then confide in someone you trust. Do it today, before the sun goes down; or if it is already gone down, before it rises again.

It is not my desire or intent with this article to in any way pillory or add to the shame and humiliation Pastor Cho no doubt is already experiencing. This one act, as illegal and punishable under law as it is, should not define or diminish his obviously outstanding and meritorious achievements over six decades of pastoral service, particularly in building a church with over one-million members, and his work with Prayer Mountain, which has been a source of spiritual encouragement and edification to millions, including thousands of ministers who have retreated there for refreshment and refiring over the years. The Lord Himself promises in His Word that Pastor Cho’s labors shall not be forgotten by Him, but that there is an eternal record of them in Heaven. Rather, the purpose of this article is to sound the alarm to others who are right now thinking, erroneously, that their transgressions and betrayals of the trust of those they are supposed to be serving as under-shepherds can be forever hidden. It will, one dark day, be uncovered. Mark it down. God Himself is the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee of Heaven, and He has a way of devising ways and means for such malfeasance and immoral behavior to be eventually uncovered. You can hang your hat on it. Nevertheless, God is always gracious and merciful, in that, as He states He did with Jezebel (Rev. 2:21), He always gives us “time to repent.” Dr. Cho had twelve years to repent, but didn’t.

The quote from Charismatic Captivation, published in 1996, follows.

This, I believe, is not coincidence, but corroboration that the governmental structure prescribed by the Discipleship/Shepherd­ing teaching, besides being totally incongruous with God’s Word, is patently erroneous.  It is a demonic system of enslavement, domination, and misuse of authority that, as it has been proliferated by its proponents over the years, has wreaked untold havoc and harm over the width and breadth of the Body of Christ that to this day remains largely unabated and unredressed.  The chief consequence of this unscriptural and subversive false teaching is that genuine God‑anointed, God‑appointed governmental authority has been supplanted, and thousands have been spiritually duped and injured.  The record shows that this wave of deception, because of the usurpation and contravention of true authority it promotes, has caused the demise of untold numbers of fraternal relationships, marriages, families, and churches.  (Indeed, after I had been working on this book for several months, more revelations of abuse and injury in churches practicing Shepherding teachings began surfacing in books and magazine articles, which to me was further confirmation both of the extensiveness of these effects as well as the need for such a work as this one.)  For this cause, unrepentant proponents and participants of these heretical doctrines and practices will, in the Day of Judgment, be required to give account to a holy and wrathful God for such misuse and abuse of authority.

Notwithstanding, there are multitudes of believers and vast numbers of groups and churches who continue to subscribe (some overtly, some covertly) to the basic tenets of this devilish deception, which ascribes free‑license to self‑aggrandiz­ing, dominion‑seeking religious dictators to engage in Biblically‑condemned religious hegemony in which they lord themselves over the unaware and unassuming sheep of God’s flock. The pervasive results and impact of this horrendous spiritual travesty, which continues to be perpetrated upon so much of the Body of Christ under the direction of Satan through his human cooperatives, is no less outrageous and should engender no less of a sense of outrage by aware believers than the most egregious and offensive societal blights against which Christians today are so eager to publicly protest and demonstrate their outrage.

The Discipleship/Shepherding chain‑of‑command schematic is an enslaving structure, and make no mistake about it—it is deliberately designed to be enslaving.  I will never forget the shock and outrage I experienced while attending a so‑called “Church Growth Seminar” held in a large church in a central Florida city in either 1977 or 1978 (I cannot recall precisely).  The keynote speaker was the prominent and highly‑regarded pastor of the world’s largest Charismatic church, and the organization he had formed was the primary sponsor of the seminar.  Ostensibly, the thrust of these seminars, which were conducted in various venues in the U.S. and other countries as well, was to share with the attending pastors so‑called “secrets of church growth.”

In the seminars, the pastor would expound upon the “chain‑of‑com­mand” structure he had devised and instituted in his own church (located in an Asian country), plus some of the organizational methods he employed in his church to combat the common and ever‑present problem that occurs in many churches, that of people entering through the front door, only to exit through the back door; that is to say: “attrition.”  These suppos­edly invaluable administrative and structural “revelations and insights” the pastor was touting, attendees were told, were explained more explicitly in a new book he had written and which, fortunately for us all, had just come off the presses in time for this particular seminar.  The title of the book blatantly proclaimed the essence of and attitude behind the structure and methods he was proliferating: “Caught In A Web.“ The premise of the book and the seminar was that attrition would be virtually eliminated, or at the very minimum, drastically reduced, in the church in which these “secrets” for “church growth” were employed, in that once a person had become a member, it would be virtually impossible to thereafter leave the church.  In the vein of the metaphor, once the prey was “caught in the web” it could never get out alive. This was the corrupt and perverted mentality being expressed at these “church growth seminars,” which, to my astonishment and incredulity, was enthusias­tically received by the majority of pastors (primarily, independent Charismatic and Pentecostal denominational pastors) who attended that seminar.

Moreover, those seminars continued to be very popular for a decade or so. But the most disturbing thing about the principles purveyed in those seminars and in that book, which essentially were Discipleship/Shepherding doctrines, in my view, is that they became the paradigm or model for literally hundreds of churches and para-church organizations around the world. The influence of this pastor and these seminars, I believe, gave global credibility to, and were the greatest single vehicle responsible for the proliferation of, these fallacious and demonic teachings and practices.

How illustrative are the concepts comprising the pastor’s presentation regarding the psychological enslavement upon which the Disciple­ship/Shepherding doctrines and methodologies are founded.  As the book title intimates, the Discipleship governmental structure is designed to ensnare members and make it very difficult for them to ever leave the local church. To accomplish this dubious goal, hyper-authoritarian leaders employ, wittingly or unwittingly, a number of psychological techniques commonly used by cult leaders to accomplish essentially the same goals of proliferation and preservation of their and the virtual elimination of attrition.  We will address some of those techniques and how to recognize them in chapter Eleven.  Here, however, we want to continue examining the perverted concepts of authority inherent within these hyper-authoritarian doctrines and practices.

Endnote: (1) The following links are to articles related to the Lakeland Revival and Todd Bentley posted on Spirit Life Magazine:

Florida Wildfires and Lakeland Wildfire

False Unity and the Lakeland Revival Cult (Part 1)

False Unity and the Lakeland Revival Cult (Part 2)

True Unity of the Spirit (Part 3)

WARNING: Bill Johnson and Bethel Church

Source: By Steven Lambert, David Yonngi Cho Found Guilty of Embezzlement and Tax-Evasion, Spirit Life Magazine, http://www.spiritlifemag.com/?p=5568#sthash.2RIDVOy9.KYbvXwp1.dpuf, 25/02/2014. (Accessed 27/02/2013.)

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Operation Wolf Pack: David Yonggi Cho Damage Control

03 Monday Mar 2014

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations

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Bob Rodgers, c3 church, c3 college, Charisma Mag, Charisma Magazine, David Yonggi Cho, duplantis, jesse duplantis, Kong Hee, Phil Pringle, Rodgers, Spirit Life, Spirit Life Magazine, yoido full gospel church, yonggi cho

INTRO

When C3 Church Watch began covering the scandal surrounding one of the biggest names on the circuit for decades, we were not certain of the outcome. For the man who added buddhism to old-style pentecostalism to be sentenced for three years in prison for tax evasion is only a qualified success. However, it is interesting to note that Al Capone who was guilty of many crimes, was also convicted of tax evasion.

Of course, defenders of Yonggi Cho would want to come out and seek to explain away the sins of the man who introduced such heresy into the Christian church. Bob Rodgers has now jumped to defend the integrity of David Yonggi Cho. It is inevitable to wonder if Rodgers is primarily thinking about his wallet.

As this is a rather long article,

1. C3 Church Watch will offer our critique of Bob Rodgers’ defense of the David Yonggi Cho scandal;

2. examine what has been said of Bob Rodgers’ ministry, behaviour and teaching;

3. look at what Steven Lambert says on Spirit Life Magazine about Bob Rodgers’ article on Charisma Mag;

4. and publish Bob Rodgers’ piece.

CRITIQUE ON BOB RODGERS DEFENSE OF YONGGI CHO

We’ve said it before and we will say it again: wolves support wolves.

Fraudulent ministers stand arm in arm together when their ‘friends’ are rightly exposed of fraudulent behaviour. When a wolf comes under fire, the pack starts the typical scripture-twisting,  truth-spinning and sin-justifying.

A good example of someone who has recently done something like this is ‘Pastor’ Bob Rodgers who recently wrote into Charisma Magazine defending the Word of Faith heretic David Yonggi Cho.

It is clear Bob Rodgers has a conflict of interest and has is own image and reputation to defend with his association David Yonggi Cho since he holds a presidential status on David Yonggi Cho’s Church Growth International board. Bob Rodgers of Charisma Magazine openly stated,

“David Yonggi Cho, pastor of Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea, has been a personal friend of our family for more than 40 years. He has stayed in our home, and my father and I have served on his church growth board for a combined 38 years. Presently, I serve as president of Church Growth International of the Americas.”

Already, Rodgers has rejected the authority of scripture and has embraced the false teacher David Yonggi Cho into his house (literally),

“Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.” 2 John 1:8-11

We can already dismiss what Bob Rodgers has to say because of his rejection of scriptures. Furthermore, if Bob Rodgers cannot see the simple fact that his friend David Yonggi Cho is a spiritual fraud parading good works to con Christianity, then how can Bob even begin to defend someone who is convicted of felony?

And what are the chances of Bob Rodgers being a false teacher? Would it surprise you that a false teacher would support a false teacher?

Bob Rodgers also made the comment that David Yonggi Cho “lives a simple life in a 1,000-square-foot church apartment. Neither does he own a car”. Well then why did Kong Hee testify that his mentor met him in a limousine? Was that the church’s limousine? Is that Cho living “a simple life” using church luxuries?

Furthermore, Rodgers’ story evades the elder controversy. If Yonggi Cho was naive and innocent, then why were elders expelled from his church? Why did he malign them and their criticisms? What was he trying to oppress them of saying? Does this sound like the behaviour of someone who is innocent? Couldn’t David Yonggi Cho repent behind closed doors to these elders? Couldn’t the leadership in the church work at fixing up the issues biblically then deal with the problems appropriately out in public?

On top of this, Bob Rodgers also ignored other allegations made about Cho’s wife. Rodgers also gave us insight to the family life of Yonggi Cho. Doesn’t Rodgers see the unbiblical behaviour of Cho’s family? Why is the eldest son still in church leadership? Is not this nepotism? A conflict of interest?

Rodgers also reported that the judge said that Cho, “… never took the lead in any of the crimes, including tax evasion, committed on the suggestion of the accounting firm“.

But Yonggi Cho was found guilty right? Not the accounting firm? Are we reading this right Bob?

As you can see, there are some serious issues in “setting the record straight”.

BOB RODGERS’ MINISTRY AND HISTORY

It appears this is not the first time Rodgers has failed in discerning frauds (We will publish this articles links in the comment section below):

Phony Preacher Ernest Cadick faces trial for fraud

This man stole from the flock of God. He had been endorsed by one of the most leading and prominent preachers/pastors in Louisville — Bob Rodgers of Evangel World Prayer Center. I’m not saying that Rodgers knew of the deceit. More than likely, he did not. As he was just one of many pastors a few years back – having no discernment –  who endorsed the likes of Tod Bently.

More on this fleecing can be found here: http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110612/NEWS01/306120091

http://www.arcamax.com/religionandspirituality/religiousnews/s-904597

Now to those who would love to quote the scripture “love covers a multitude of sin,” I will say to you: You are a wolf if you think we are to keep these things covered up. Where was Bob Rogers and other preachers like him, when this man was allowed to come in a steal from the very ones God entrusted them with? Why did they not — from the pulpit – stand up and warn the sheep of this crook?

A lot of people had their life savings stolen from them. Yet, I will say the root to this is greed. The Word/Faith doctrine appeals to greed. Give to me and God will bless you.

Cadick used fear to manipulate people into handing over their money. Their greed, their desires to have their ears tickled led them straight to a lying thief.

Rogers said he is not “taking up for him one bit.” But he said, “In Ernie’s eyes I don’t think he felt like he was taking advantage of anyone.”

Sorry pastor Rogers, that just does not ring true to me. One has to ask what you gain by not coming out strongly against what this man did. Sounds like Rogers has more in common with wolves than he does with sheep.

Source: Mark, Phony Preacher Ernest Cadick faces trial for fraud, Redeemed Hippies’ Place, http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/phony-preacher-ernest-cadick-faces-trial-for-fraud/, 02/09/2013 at 6:58:54 ASD.

A commentor also stated:

“I don’t know if you are aware of this or not, but, Bob Rogers also sold shares of stock or ownership in oil wells in the late 80′s utilizing scripture throughout the Bible to promote the selling of this stock. He solicited promises from God to make his point and lure people to purchase these shares. Nobody was ever made aware of what became of the stock or investigated to see if Bob Rogers made a significant gain from those who purchased in these oil wells. It wasn’t to long after this transaction took place that Bob started TV 21 which was supposed to be a Christian television station and now is no different than many of the other local stations. I am sure the station is valued at a lot of money though and Bob is living well. I would just like to know did he mislead people when he sold these oil well stocks also and did he use the finds to begin a television station and if this is the case shouldn’t those who invested in oil wells that never truly existed be owners of a television station which does? Just for thought.”

Source: Mark, Phony Preacher Ernest Cadick faces trial for fraud, Redeemed Hippies’ Place, http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/phony-preacher-ernest-cadick-faces-trial-for-fraud/, 02/09/2013 at 6:58:54 ASD.

Another witness has described Bob Rodgers ministry of being very Word of Faith. They say he endorses some of the worst spiritual scam artists like Mike Murdock and Jesse Duplantis.

I use to attend Evangel World Prayer Center, where Bob Rodgers was pastor. He’s a big WOF guy. Brings in the Mike Murdocks, Jesse Duplantis’, etc on a regular basis.

Source: So Thankful, info on some pastors on Daystar (Bob Rodgers and Gary & Drenda Keesee and Robert Morris and…, Rapture Ready, http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?155430-info-on-some-pastors-on-Daystar-(Bob-Rodgers-and-Gary-amp-Drenda-Keesee-and-Robert-Morris-and, Published February 19th, 2011, 03:55 AM. (Accessed 02/03/2014.)

Jesse Duplantis should sound familiar to our readers. Phil Pringle had this Word of Faith heretic influence his Bible College Students.

SPIRIT LIFE MAGAZINE REVIEW OF BOB RODGER’S ‘RECORD’

Steven Lambert from Spirit Life Magazine also had this to say about Bob Rodgers’ article,

[Editor’s note: In an article posted on Charisma Magazine at 1:30 PM, 25 hours after its original posting reporting David Yonggi Cho’s being found guilty of embezzlement and tax-evasion charges, Charisma Magazine then posted the following article by a pastor claiming to have been present at the trial and being a longtime close friend and adviser to Cho.

Bob Rodgers’ article reports details of the sentencing as well as the facts of the case that conflict with Charisma’s original article by Jennifer Leclaire, and places the blame for the embezzlement of church funds and tax-evasion scheme squarely on Cho’s eldest son and some treacherous church elders who essentially duped the elder Cho into signing some papers without comprehending their contents or import that were the paperwork for a $12-Million fraudulent stock scheme using church monies. Spirit Life Magazine has been unable at the time of this posting to independently verify any of Bob Rodgers’ version of the story, but will report them if and when we are able to do so. In the meantime, Rodgers’ version of the facts in the case, in our view, even if true, do not change much the thrust of the cautionary tale represented in the matter and the matters we wrote about in our article.

Those issues remain unchanged. Moreover, Rodgers’ article only brings up another whole set of issues relative to other character, heart, spiritual, fathering, and leadership questions and issues on the part of Pastor Cho. “To whom much is given, much is required,” “Let not many of you become teachers (church leaders) for in such you incur a stricter judgment,” and are two admonitions from Scripture that come to mind, along with another that says that an overseer “must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?) [1 Tim. 3:4-5].

One is also reminded of the fathering failure of Eli, the High Priest, and how his sons misused their priestly power to rape and mistreat women and to engage in a form of embezzlement and extortion. It seems evident that the “iniquity (perversion) of the father” produced a harvest of evil crop that manifested in his corrupt adult sons. God punished them all, including Eli himself, with untimely death for their wickedness.

When one has been vaunted and almost beatified as “the world’s greatest pastor,” based primarily on the fact that the church he leads has the most members of any church in the world, unfortunately, such claims to “greatness” and de facto apotheosis only subject (unfairly and unreasonably) the principal to greater scrutiny, higher standards of conduct and spirituality, and expectations from others. Regardless, having posted our original article concerning the matter, we felt obliged in all fairness to post Bob Rodgers’ article published by Charisma Magazine as well.

However, over the years of scandal after scandal emerging out of the Pentecostal/Charismatic realm, most inveterate observers can almost predict in advance that whenever an exalted leader is involved in some scandal that becomes news, some close friend or sycophant of the principal will write some article refuting all the allegations and insist it was all a misunderstanding or someone’s vendetta or a kangaroo trial and miscarriage of justice, and their good-ole boy friend is really the reincarnation of St. Francis of Assisi. We’re all pretty much used to that by now, and so Mr. Rodgers’ claims that it’s all just a big mistake and it’s really just another wonderful day in the neighborhood, doesn’t hold much water with us at this point.

Regardless of the details, where there’s smoke, there’s usually some sort of fire somewhere, which means there’s some sort of wrong doing here somewhere, wherever and whatever it might be. While it may often be true that, as the saying goes, “the devil’s in the details,” sometimes in matters of the Kingdom God’s adjudication and judgment is in a matter in which the details are muddled, unclear, or not as reported. We think this is one of those cases.]

Source: By Steven Lambert, David Yonngi Cho Case, Post Facto, Spirit Life Magazine, http://www.spiritlifemag.com/?p=5582#sthash.nuJdwYLd.dpuf, Posted 25/02/2014. (Accessed 26/02/2014.)

Bob Rodgers wrote the following on Charisma Magazine,

Setting the Record Straight on David Yonggi Cho

David Yonggi Cho, pastor of Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea, has been a personal friend of our family for more than 40 years. He has stayed in our home, and my father and I have served on his church growth board for a combined 38 years. Presently, I serve as president of Church Growth International of the Americas.

Because of the slant of some of the media reports, it is important certain details of the situation be made known. Not only was I present in Seoul during much of the trial, but there was also information disclosed during closed-door meetings which has not yet been made public. I want to share some of this as follows.

First, the Seoul Central District Court sentenced Cho, 78, to a three-year prison term suspended for five years. He had been indicted for allegedly causing financial losses worth more than $12 million. He was also fined $5 million. He will not have to serve prison time, but he is on probation.

Second, Cho’s son, Cho Hee-Jun, 49, was indicted for the same charges. Because he was considered a flight risk, he was immediately taken into custody following a court order after being sentenced to three years in prison.

Cho has three sons. The second and third sons are very productive and work in church-related ministries. His eldest son has been the prodigal. He has been married four times and has been involved in sexual scandals with national personalities. In addition, he has served prison time for investment scams and embezzlement. His scandalized life has been an embarrassment to his family and the church.

Twelve years ago, this son purposely defrauded the church in excess of $12 million in a stock-related scheme. Cho testified that he trusted his elders and son and didn’t check and read the thousands of pages of paperwork, which was prepared for him to sign. Because Cho relied upon the direction of his choice elders and son, he signed the papers. He never received any monies from the transaction.

Third, the presiding judge said, “The court considered that even though Pastor Cho had the final say in the church, he never took the lead in any of the crimes, including tax evasion, committed on the suggestion of the accounting firm.”

The court also considered Cho’s life journey as a religious leader and his long-term contribution to social welfare as mitigating circumstances on his behalf. The court ruled that his son, Cho Hee-Jun, was the instigator of the crime related to the purchase of the shares of 1-Service stock.

Even though Cho established the world’s largest church, with more than 1 million members, he lives a simple life in a 1,000-square-foot church apartment. Neither does he own a car. Cho has raised and given personally to the church more than $170 million.

Dr. Bob Rodgers Sr. is pastor of Evangel World Prayer Center in Louisville, Ky.

Source: By Bob Rodgers, Setting the Record Straight on David Yonggi Cho, Charisma Magazine, http://www.charismamag.com/life/culture/19861-setting-the-record-straight-on-david-yonggi-cho, 1:30PM EST 25/02/2014 BOB RODGERS(Accessed 26/02/2014.)

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