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A Good Example Of Pringle Teaching Dishonestly

24 Wednesday Jul 2013

Posted by Nailed Truth in Pringle's Behaviour, Pringle's Doctrine/Gospel, Pringle's Influences, Pringle's Language, Pringle's Methods

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Before tackling this article, please read the following:

Pringle Mocks Corrector

More Christians in his church should tell Phil Pringle to “stick to the bible”. The topic of money is a common message preached at C3 Church. While we do not hear the faithful gospel preached of Christ and Him crucified, it is impossible to escape C3’s ten minute money-grubbing message. People need to face the facts. Phil Pringle has an unhealthy obsession with money and making up fables.

He clearly does not put his faith in God. Rather, Pringle puts faith in his works and finances. Question Pringle’s prosperity gospel and there is a good chance you will be labeled, criticised, ostracised, demonised or even isolated by the leadership. The tithe doctrine specifically is Pringle’s golden calf. In the past, the tithe has been called by C3 leadership the “foundation” or “cornerstone” to every believers life.

This false doctrine is both binding and destructive. This keeps poor Christians in C3 stuck in their poverty. This false doctrine has divided families and churches. Still, Phil Pringle conveniently refuses to examine the historicity and the biblical truth of the tithe. This doctrine helps no one except the false and deceptive ministry of Phil Pringle. Yet he insists Christians must tithe.

In a Sunday night sermon titled ‘Financial Excellence Part 2’ (22/05/2011), Phil Pringle slandered (blasphemed) God. He did so by putting words in God’s mouth. Pringle unashamedly went out of his way to mislead his congregation on his false tithe doctrine. Phil Pringle invented his own theology to convince and intimidate his congregation to continually financially support his ministry.

Before you read and listen to this segment of Phil Pringle, we wish to warn you of following deceptive  methods false teachers like himself use on Christians.

WARNING 1: Always hold the pastor accountable to the words he uses. If he his playing with words, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM.

WARNING 2: If a pastor is wrongfully confusing what God is saying to what he is saying, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM.

WARNING 3: If a pastor does not read the biblical text to justify his  claims, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. (i.e., if he tells you a biblical story and hi-jacks the biblical narrative for his own means.).

WARNING 4: Always check what the pastor is saying in the NAME of God to what God actually says in His Word.

WARNING 5: Always make sure that the Pastor is using biblical reasoning to teach you and NOT emotional manipulation (e.g., guilt, group intimidation).

Below, Pringle breaks all the rules of how a pastor should teach, behave and rightly approach biblical texts.

PRINGLE PLAYING WITH WORDS

In the below transcript you will see Pringle mislead the congregation by calling his financial insights to the bible a “bible study”. How can Pringle call what he taught a “bible study” when  he never read the texts in Joshua and Genesis? He never even gave biblical references. This was not a bible study. (A bible study actually involves the pastor explaining what the bible means by reading it and handling the contexts of what is said correctly.)

Throughout the below segment, Pringle kept redefining what the tithe was in very obscure ways. He does this to convince Christians that the tithe is biblical. Ask yourself: is the tithe continually defined by Pringle as ‘a tenth’ or something else? Does it keep changing itself meaning to suit Pringle’s theology or agenda?

PRINGLE PLAYING ‘GOD-AND-SWITCH’ AS IN ‘BAIT-AND-SWITCH’

To actually grasp what Pringle is doing in this segment of teaching, please watch the video at the bottom of this article (one minute in).

Good preachers clearly distinguish when God is speaking through the scriptures. They make sure that their voice is separate from God’s so no man is confused between a man’s words and God’s Word. Not so with Pringle. Pringle at one point speaks as though God is saying something through the scriptures. However, the listener can get easily confused over either God or Pringle speaking to you.

It was incredibly difficult to transcribe this video. In particularly when Pringle said,

“If you give me that [Jericho] then the rest of the land is yours. That’s the first fruits, that’s the tithe. That’s the tree in the garden for Adam.”

Was Pringle telling us this or was he telling us this is what God was saying in the book of Joshua?

PRINGLE AVOIDING THE BIBLE AT ALL COST

Using the books of Genesis and Joshua, Pringle starts arguing his case for the tithe. He AVOIDS reading these texts to support his argument. Instead, Pringle hi-jacks the narrative, lies about God saying things He never said and makes stuff up according to his personal pet theories.

If Pringle read out Genesis 2-3 or Joshua 6-8, then any hearer would realise that the tithe is not even mentioned in these ancient documents. You don’t think Pringle knows this? And what he says isn’t new. The sermon ‘Financial Excellence’ is based off his book ‘Keys To Financial Excellence’. His teaching has been expanded and extracted from his book ‘Keys To Financial Excellence’:

Pringle’s Curse Attack Gets A Wiki-Whack

Phil Pringle not only makes up his own theology in regards to the city of Jericho being a tithe, he also teaches that the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil is the tithe. Once again, if anyone was reading Genesis 2-3, they would see that Pringle is not honest in handling the God’s Word.

PRINGLE’S MESSAGE

Below is part of the transcript we just critiqued and the video.

“So here’s the Lord saying, “You’re robbing”. You’re taking something that belongs to God. It’s the tithe. You’re sticking it in your pocket. [Inaudible] Bless me. It aint gonna happen.

There’s a guy called Achan in the scripture. And look- If I’m stirred up about anything to do with this message, it is this point I’m making right now. Because, here’s the thing, Achan- does anybody know who Achan is? Achan?

Ok. Here’s the picture. Real quick little bible study.

Joshua comes to Jericho. God says, “March around the thing- seven days. Seven days, seven times. Shout. PHEOW! The whole thing will collapse. But,” he says, “that city is the tithe.”

“Don’t touch anything in the city.” It belongs to God. The whole lot. It was ‘under the ban’ was the literal words. Devoted to destruction. “If you give me that then the rest of the land is yours. That’s the firstfruits, that’s the tithe. That’s the tree in the garden for Adam.”

It’s the firstborn of every animal born on the earth. It’s the first. It’s the tithe.
‘kay. So everybody does it.

“Phew! Don’t touch it! Don’t touch!” Achan sees a big lump of gold. He says, “I’ll take that”. Puts in his back pocket. Goes into his tent. Digs a hole. Puts it in. Hides it in a couple of garments. [Inaudible.] Digs a hole. Hides it.

The next- they’re ready to go to the next town, Ai. Little town. A-i. That’s a little name, three thousand people, bam! Just go up there. Josh is- says ‘Oh, we wont even send the whole army up. We’ll kill these guys in no time at all’. Bam! So he goes up. They get defeated.

Israel gets defeated. About thirty seven of their own soldiers die. Achan doesn’t. One of the soldiers. He doesn’t. They come back. Josh is on his face. He says, “God! How did that happen? We took Jericho with big thick walls! Then we got beaten at Ai, by a nobody group!”

God says, “Somebody took the tithe.”

He says, “What do you mean?” He says, “You gotta find out who did this.” So they find out. Do a little investigation.
“Achan. What are you doing?”

“Woah!” … This is why I’m stirred up about it. Because it’s not about just me individually. It’s about the whole church. I’ve a corporate responsibility to the entire Kingdom of God. To the whole body of Christ.” Phil Pringle, Ps Phil Pringle: Financial Excellence Part 2, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-financial-excellence-part-2, Sermon (PM), 22/05/2011.

Below you can watch him say this in the snippet about one minute in.

PRINGLE LYING TO PEOPLE ABOUT GOD

Phil Pringle has a shepherds responsibility to handle God’s Word correctly and NOT lie and slander God and His word for financial gain. If anyone did do a “bible study” reading Joshua 6-8 while Pringle preached, they would notice Pringle made up things God never said.

God didn’t say,

“that city [Jericho] is the tithe.”

God did not say,

“If you give me that then the rest of the land is yours. That’s the firstfruits, that’s the tithe. That’s the tree in the garden for Adam. It’s the firstborn of every animal born on the earth. It’s the first. It’s the tithe. ‘kay.”

When Joshua consulted God in regards to his military losing the battle at Ai, God did not say to Joshua,

“Somebody took the tithe.”

Phil Pringle is making God say and teach things God never said. In other words, Phil Pringle is blaspheming by taking the Lord’s name in vain.

Firstly, this false teaching of the tithe goes against the heart of the Father, goes against Jesus and His finished work on Calvary and the Holy Spirit. Why? It is through Christ we find blessing and freedom away from the curse and condemnation of death, God’s Law and His wrath. As Christians we do not receive the Holy Spirit, God’s promise and blessing by our works. The entire letter to the Galatians makes this case. This is blasphemy no matter which way you look at it, again taking the Lord’s name in vain.

PRINGLE USING INTIMIDATION AND CROWD CONTROL 

Pringle lets his emotions run in this portion of his talk. His tone is accusative against Christians for not tithing. If you watch further beyond the transcript, he starts personally confessing his works and his faithfulness to the tithe.

This does not stop Pringle teaching to his congregation that if individuals aren’t tithing, they are accused by God of “robbing,” cursed by God Himself and blocking the progress of his C3 church movement. This is This is why he says,

“I’m stirred up about it. Because it’s not about just me individually.”

The onus is on non-tithers to do what Pringle says or else. His lies mixed with his intimidation is in our opinion bullying. It is of our opinion he is using misleading tactics to force non-tithers in his congregation to tithe, using his own congregation against them. Think of it this way. After this sermon, how would members react to people who say they don’t tithe? After this sermon, do you think non-tithers would dispute this teaching against other members? Do you think they will feel isolated and alone in their thoughts on this matter?

Overall, this is a good example how a false teacher would teach and behave behind a pulpit. Phil Pringle’s false message and deceitful methods are clearly evident in this sermon.

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Why Would CHC Want Phil Pringle As Their Advisory Pastor? (Part 1)

15 Wednesday Aug 2012

Posted by Nailed Truth in C3 & Pringles Associations, Pringle's Influences, Pringle's Language

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CHC members should strongly express their concern of having Phil Pringle ministering in their church as their Advisory Pastor.

In a C3 leaders meeting, Phil Pringle teaches that leaders can measure Christians “Passionate Spirituality… by how much they actually give”. He reveals the advantages of using the US laws to see  how “spiritually passionate” people are in their giving.

Don’t you think this is spiritual or financial manipulation?

We have audio of Kong Hee talking about how he copies everything Phil Pringle does. Both have the same ‘Rise and Build’ campaigns in their churches. So how much has Phil Pringle influenced Kong Hee on teachings of finance? Has Phil Pringle taught Kong Hee to behave in similar ways as himself regarding finances? Would CHC consider their Advisory Pastor’s behaviour legal in Singapore?

This teaching is not of God. The bible condemns such teaching and would claim that Phil Pringle is “bewitching” leaders in his own movement, deceiving Christians into believing that giving money is a sign of true Christian spirituality.

“O foolish [Christians]! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?” Galatians 3:1-6

Here is the transcript:

“And number eight: Passionate Spirituality. Passionate Spirituality. This is measured in tithing. There are several measurements they give for these. It’s unusual the measurements that they actually put on – on these ah – how they – how they said “We can tell if a church is spiritually passionate not by the fact they go ‘Oooooooo!’ [Acts like a crazy pentecostal] but by how much they actually give.” Ok?

Now as leaders, let me tell you this: you got no chance of getting your people to be tithers and blessed and prospering, if you’re not. And it’s the same with the building fund and everywhere else. And I make no apologies in this meeting for saying, before the Lord: that you and I are leading a group of people and we have got a responsibility to show them the way and be able to speak without any compromise in our conviction at all, that yes, we gotta bring that tithe into the house of God because that is- guarantees us an open window over our church life and over our movement. … [Fumbles]

I came across a leader who I knew who’d, you know– you know, sort of looked like they were doing the right thing with giving to building the building. But you know, we can check those records actually. In America you can check everybody’s tithing records. And Paul would base his- when he was in Los Angeles, you could base your pastoring on that couldn’t you, really? Just check it all out and weekly go around and see them and say ‘things aren’t working out for you?’.

‘Yeah! How did you know?’

‘Oh! You know…’ [Audience laughs]

And uh… but we can’t do that here. But what we can do is check, you know, is look on the ‘Rise and Build’ records and that tells us, you know, where, you know, the passionate spirituality if you like, of our people. And that’s an indicator. It’s not the amount, it’s just the sacrifice and the heart to be involved is actually there. And uh…

You know I’m talking like this because we’re a mature crowd here aren’t we? We can cope with this. And if it’s a little challenging, that’s great! Amen! We gotta smile when a thing challenges us saying ‘Yeah! This is good for me! It’s going to move me on ‘n get me up on my feet’. And so that- that… when we did, I just asked Wayne, cos I don’t actually go through those records and check them.

I just said to Wayne ‘Did that guy umm… was he involved?’. And he came back with a number that was just – you know – [Pringle shows disappointment, hand over face] that just boggled my mind, how that over such a long time that was it.

And it revealed a lot to me. It just told me everything as to why his situation was like it was.” (38:00)

It looks as though Kong Hee also peddles this same anathematic teaching that Pringle teaches.

Kong Hee’s allusion to John 3:16 echoes Pringle’s dangerous teaching on John 3:16. That being, Jesus and salvation are linked to the giving of money.

C3 Giving Sermon Transcript: Just Another Manic Sunday

“Let Me Just Talk To You Out Of A Scripture” – Pringle’s Use of John 3:16

“Every time you give, you’re helping another soul come to Christ.” – Phil Pringle, Ps Phil Pringle: GO! Week 2 (AM), http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-go-week-2-am, 55:21, 6pm, 14/08/2011.

When this happens, it is not surprising that Phil Pringle endorses messages where people can BUY the salvation of their families and friends.

C3′s Tetzel: Catholic Kubala Says To Pringle, God Told Him We Can Buy Salvation

Johann Tetzel Eat Your Heart Out | Andrew Kubala tramples on the blood of Christ at Presence 2012

Christian passion and maturity is demonstrated by a believers obedience in studying and handling God’s teachings correctly. The writer of Hebrews has this rebuke and correction on what Christian maturity is (emphasis in bold):

“About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits.” – Hebrews 5:11-14, 6:1-3

According to the writer of Hebrews, Phil Pringle and Kong Hee aren’t even on the milk. According to the writer of Hebrews, Phil Pringle and Kong Hee “have become dull of hearing”. Maturity of a believer is clearly demonstrated what one knows of their God.

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Phil Pringle Prophesies A Money Multiplication Anointing On His Leaders

09 Monday Apr 2012

Posted by Nailed Truth in Church Sermons, Pringle's Behaviour, Pringle's Doctrine/Gospel

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In May 2011 after the Presence Conference 2011, Pringle said in his leaders meeting,

“But I do know that I have super confidence in the areas of barren couples. You know or- that’s a bad statement. But, people who can’t have children. I just know it’s going to work! And there are some healings, I know it’s going to work. And I try not to promise beyond that knowing. So that only- if I know that a thing is going to happen do I- what I move towards saying, ‘This is going to happen.'” (00:26-00:55)

He also said,

“But I do believe that – and this is a surprising thing to me because I never, ever felt this in my whole life before – that things are going to multiply. That people are going to walk out of our church services and money is going to multiply in their pockets. Now I know all of you are wanting to run out right now and just check it out. Hahahaha!

Some of you haven’t got any money to multiply! And Sheralyn, you know I do believe what you said before that baptised in the Holy Spirit… And what was the other one? And baptised by water. Yeah but you missed out tithing.

Yeah, you see now there’s all sorts of problems if a person doesn’t tithe. And so the multiplying will be held up on you. But the blessing – oh! you went quiet right there. And uh, you know- but um. But it’s true! The multiplying power of God, I believe, is going to come on everybody. Everybody! While I was sitting in this, in this [meeting?] tonight I thought, I was thinking, “This anointing is going to get on everybody! I can taste it! I can smell it! It’s in the atmosphere.” (00:56-02:10)

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Phil Pringle Financially Fooling & Fleecing People (Part 2)

03 Tuesday Jan 2012

Posted by Nailed Truth in Church Sermons, Pringle's Beliefs, Pringle's Doctrine/Gospel, Pringle's Laws

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Below are five youtube videos of Phil Pringle speaking on ‘Financial Excellence’ in his evening service on 22/05/2011. Comparing Pringle’s morning message to his night time message, Phil Pringle not only demonstrates a complete lack of biblical knowledge and resonsibility or accountability to handling the scriptures correctly, Pringle exhibits hypocrisy. In his morning message he said,

“As we launch into this part of the year – tax returns, all these other areas, finances become an important subject of the media and of our own lives as we try to tidy things up as we come to the end of the year, etc-etc. And especially in the Kingdom of God, it’s important that you and I have this area under control, that we understand what this is about. Because finances are important.

I know that there’s this feeling sometimes, like Christians we intend to say well, ‘Well [shows disdain on his face] it’s not about money‘. And I agree, it’s not. But money’s not unimportant and I have a healthy respect for the power of money. And so did Jesus.” – Phil Pringle, Ps Phil Pringle: Financial Excellence Part 2, http://www2.myc3church.net/videos/ps-phil-pringle-financial-excellence-part-2, Sermon (PM), 22/05/2011. 

Rather than agree money is not an important focus for Christians to have, you will see in this sermon Pringle stresses the importance of money.

A solid critique of this sermon will be up later this year.

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Phil Pringle Financially Fooling & Fleecing People (Part 1)

03 Tuesday Jan 2012

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Below are six youtube videos of Phil Pringle speaking on ‘Financial Excellence’ in his morning service in 22/05/2011. Unfortunately for someone who has a doctorate in theology, Phil Pringle demonstrates a complete lack of biblical knowledge and shows no resonsibility or accountability to handling the scriptures correctly, especially when it comes to finances.

A critique of this sermon will be up later this year.

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