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Vision Builders 2014 Information

02 Saturday May 2015

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The false doctrine on tithing is an illegal doctrine of the church; a legalistic heresy that is promoted by Prosperity Cults who do not rightly handle the different covenants between Ancient Israel and the covenant that God has made with New Testament believers.

Why tithing is not a Christian Doctrine (Part 1)

Unfortunately, the false tithing doctrine is taught in C3 among many other false doctrines. The result has caused serious hardships on individuals and families in the past.

Also, the most vulnerable in the C3 movement are open to financial exploitation. For example, we have warned our readers in the past how C3 offer poor (and potentially grave) advice to people who are struggling financially.

Vision Builders Phil Pringle C3

We have covered C3 pushing this poor financial directive onto its members in the past.

Vision Builders 2010 Magazine
Vision Builders 2011 Magazine
Vision Builders 2012 Brochure
Vision Builder 2013 Brochure

In 2014, C3 decided to broadcast the following instructions on their own myc3church.net website.

Can I give to Vision Builders instead of Tithing?
Vision Builders should be seen as giving ‘over and above’ the Tithe.

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I am in significant debt, should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?
If you are in ‘out of control’ debt, after your tithe the debt should be your  next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount (or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount is insignificant.

Here is the information in it’s proper context:

How To Be Part Of Vision Builders
ESSENTIAL INFO.

How can I join in prayer?

Pray for all our locations. That people would be drawn to come along, that they would meet Jesus Christ and be set free.

Pray for doors to open through Beyond and C3 Media. That people would be pointed to Jesus Christ through us meeting real needs, bringing hope and preaching the good news to the nations.

Pray for all the Vision Builders. That our Church would continue to be blessed to be a blessing and that we would see the Vision of Sydney, a city for Christ come to pass.

How can you be a part of Vision Builders in 2014?

1. Prayerfully consider the level of giving that you feel is appropriate for you, based on wisdom, prayer and faith. Remember, the philosophy of Vision Builders is equal sacrifice, not equal giving.

2. Make a formal commitment to give on a Vision Builders commitment card throughout June 2014. Alternatively, you can obtain a commitment card at any time from the Information Desk in the church foyer.

Choose your method of fulfillment:

Regular Payment: Making a regular weekly or monthly contribution is one of the most successful ways to fulfill your commitment.

Salary Sacrifice: You can arrange with your employer to make a deduction from your salary each pay before tax.

Direct Credit: This can be arranged through your employer or bank. Your bank can arrange regular transfers that occur automatically. You can also arrange regular payments via Internet Banking. Alternatively, you can choose to make a payment from money currently available or when you receive a work bonus, tax refund or sell an asset.

Online Donation: This is a popular way of giving. Simply visit our website at www.myc3church.net and click on the ‘Online Giving’ tab. Select the ‘Vision Builders’ field, complete the requested information and continue with ‘Next’.

Important Information:

Bank Details:
For use with salary sacrifice and direct transfers.
Account Name: C3 Vision Builders
BSB: 062127 Account Number: 10189658

Taxation Benefits:
All donations in excess of $2 given to C3 Vision Builders ABN 95 002 558 134 are tax deductible. The real cost of your contribution can therefore be significantly less than the amount donated, however please seek advice from your financial advisor. A Tax Receipt will be issued after the end of the Financial Year.

Other Funds:
A fund that does not have tax deductibility status has been set up for those who do not need or wish to take advantage of the taxation benefits. Money given to this Fund can be used for Vision Builder initiatives beyond the purpose approved by the Australian Taxation Office.

The Fund details are as follows:
All Campuses:
‘C3 Vision Builders – Non Deductible’
Please contact accounts@myc3church.net for the bank details.
Information is compliant with current Taxation rulings at time of going to print.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the Vision Builders Program?
The Vision Builders Program is the overarching banner for our Rise & Build, Beyond and Media & Television Initiatives. Vision Builders is responsible for raising the finance needed to facilitate all of these areas of our Church Life.

Can I give to Vision Builders instead of Tithing?
Vision Builders should be seen as giving ‘over and above’ the Tithe.

What if I can’t fulfill my pledge?
Firstly, we encourage people to make realistic pledges. Having done that, we understand that sometimes events happen and for whatever reason people find difficulty in fulfilling their pledge within the timeframe. We suggest that you may still want to fulfill your pledge by breaking it down into smaller amounts over a longer period of time.

I am new to church, should I be giving to Vision Builders? If so, why?
There is no pressure for anyone to give to Vision Builders, nor is there any minimum requirement. New people who would like to give are most welcome, as is anyone who finds that our vision resonates with them.

I am in significant debt, should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?
If you are in ‘out of control’ debt, after your tithe the debt should be your  next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount (or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount is insignificant.

Do you need my details? I wish to remain anonymous.
You may remain anonymous if you wish, and all the details of your giving will be kept confidential. However, you will not be able to claim tax deductibility for your giving as we will be unable to provide you with a record of your contribution, which you will need to submit to the Australian Tax Office.

How do we know where the money goes?
Funds are spent in accordance with the initiatives presented in this brochure and as updated during the year. All our accounts are independently audited annually to ensure compliance, and lodged with ASIC.

Source: Partner With Vision Builders, My C3 Church, http://www2.myc3church.net/vbpartners. (Accessed 02/05/2015.)

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NOTE: SCREEN GRAB TAKEN ON THE 02/05/2015.

Kong Hee Is Not About “Building Buildings” But “Building People”? Really?

16 Friday Aug 2013

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In July, the Straits Times reported the following,

City Harvest Church founder Kong Hee preached to crowds at the weekend as his embattled organisation moved back into its Suntec premises following a year-long revamp.

Worshippers packed the 7,305-seat auditorium as Kong – who is at the centre of a major corruption probe – gave a sermon titled A House On Fire.

“We’re not building buildings but building people,” he told the congregation during the 21/2-hour service last Saturday.

The church’s return to the Suntec Singapore convention centre – which it part-owns – means it finally has a permanent home after 25 unsuccessful attempts to secure a new set of premises.

Source: City Harvest Church returns to Suntec premises after revamp, Straits Times, http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/city-harvest-church-returns-suntec-premises-after-revamp-20130708, Published on Jul 08, 2013, 10:05 AM. (Accessed 20/07/2013.)

So Kong Hee thinks he’s “not building buildings but building people”? Really Kong?

Here is Kong Hee a few years ago flogging his congregation to give to the CHC building fund. In this video, Kong revealed that the unemployed, retirees and students were giving money to the building fund. He also says, “An equal amount, an equal sacrifice. You give your best. You give until your heart is broken. You give until tears stream down your eyes”.

An equal amount, an equal sacrifice? You give your best? Why does this sound familiar? Does this not sound like Phil Pringle’s own money grubby ‘Vision Builders’ campaign?

“Remember, the philosophy of Vision Builders is equal sacrifice not equal giving.”

In C3’s own Vision Builders pamphlets they not only encourage a similar philosophy but also instruct those in out of control debt to do the following,

“If you are in ‘out of control debt’, after your tithe the debt should be your next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount
(or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount
is insignificant.” – Vision Builders 2012, http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/VISION-BUILDERS-BROCHURE.pdf, pg. 10.

Once again, Kong Hee is proving that, “Pastor Phil has been there for me; praying with me; encouraging me; discipling me; telling me how to do the work of the ministry; taught me how to collect an offering; how to give an altar call; how to build a church; build a team”. In the public eye, both unashamedly and ruthlessly exploit people for financial gain with their similar fleece-a-thon campaigns. The difference between Phil Pringle and Kong Hee is that Kong seems to be more ruthless than Pringle.

Kong Hee below says , “And Chwung, have to eat into their reserve. Literally- I mean just the medical bills alone could really sink an ordinary person. But yet this year, Chwung is pledging twenty thousand dollars to the building fund, when he’s having a challenging time in his finances…”

Kong Hee said in the below video, “Nick and Connie sold their five room flat and downgraded to a three room apartment just so they could give twenty thousand dollars to the building fund! I mean, where do you hear people like that? I mean, people who are willing to sell their house and downgrade to build God a great house”.

Good question Kong. Where do you hear of people like that? Clearly you and your are wife aren’t suckers to the false things you say.

While people were selling their expensive flats or forsaking their own medication at their own expense to give to Kong Hee’s building fund,  Pastor Kong Hee’s wife Sun Ho was supposedly using those building fund expenses to flaunt her lavish Hollywood lifestyle. Not to only that, Sun Ho also renting out a Hollywood Mansion for $28,000 a month. Why wasn’t she forsaking this lifestyle to build God’s house?

For Kong Hee to say that he is not about building buildings but building people is dishonest. This is doublespeak. What the Straits Times did unknowingly was expose how again Kong Hee used the pulpit to preach his selfish propaganda. No pastor can carry integrity if he speaks with a forked tongue behind the pulpit.

When will integrity return to the CHC pulpit?

Is This The Way Phil Pringle Should Run His Church?

16 Sunday Jun 2013

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SERMON EXECUTION

When key church conferences or events are weeks away, Phil Pringle executes his teachings in rather peculiar ways. To the average person it sounds like what they are hearing in a Sunday service or bible study is biblical teaching.

Unfortunately this is not the case. It is becoming more evident that C3 members are being seduced by innovative marketing ploys for Phil Pringle’s conferences and events. People need to understand that Phil Pringle can often have a rather different agenda when he is preaching. It is of our opinion that his marketing ploys are becoming more manipulative.

Consider some of these statements he has made in his book, ‘You The Leader’:

“People can become anything under the right conditions.” – Phil Pringle, You The Leader, 2005, pg 267.

“I don’t approach Sundays with an attitude of, “What message shall I preach?” but rather, “What do we want to achieve in our church at this time?” That desired end result determines what and how I preach. Then, within the particular message, I ask myself, “What am I trying to achieve here? What one thing am I attempting to say? What do I want these people to have or do at the end of this time?’
Then I follow the plan.” – Phil Pringle, You The Leader, pg. 234.

“What we preach is what we get. We are farmers sowing seed. If we are unhappy with the harvest we’re reaping, we should sow different seed. If we want different results, we preach different messages.” – Phil Pringle, You The Leader, 2005, pg 215.

It is unsettling to know that a pastor might be using his position and sermon time to manipulate people. This is what we have recorded Phil Pringle doing in the past.

Another False Prophecy By Pringle Alongside A Deceitful Sermon

Pringle’s ‘Get Ready For God’ Bible Study Notes, Exposed

Pringle’s ‘Financial Excellence’ Bible Study Notes, Exposed

HAS ‘PASTOR’ PHIL PRINGLE CHANGED?

You may be thinking Phil Pringle went through an unusual phase in his ministry. Not so. We have seen him behave like this for a few years now. This year we have seen Pringle misuse his power and position to market his events through his teachings. Specifically this years Presence Conference 2013 and Vision Builders 2013.

In this articles we will not give you a critique of Phil Pringle’s sermons that market people to attend Presence Conference 2013 or Vision Builders 2013. First, we invite you to look at the bizarre C3 Connect Notes study, weeks leading up to Presence Conference 2013. (Emphasis ours in underline.)

35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. John 4v35
(all references NIV)

It says: “don’t you have a saying?” We all have a saying.
– We can say one thing, but God says this: we can’t go without the presence of God.
– Moses and the people set out, but they pleaded: “Please God, don’t let us go without your presence.

The presence of God defines who you are. When people meet you they don’t just experience you, they experience God.

The church is a place of the second chance – but the church is also the house of promise.

TALK ABOUT:
* Are you ready for the hour we are about to step into? Are you willing give [sic] him all of your life?

Ps Greg French moved extensively in the prophetic after this message. We would like to encourage all leaders to have a special prayer and ministry time in your connect group this week. Remember you are a sufficient minister of the Holy Spirit! ‘..Our competence comes from God. 6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit..’ (2 Corin 3:5-6)

Source: CN08Apr13 – Carrying The Presence Of God

Let’s see if Phil Pringle honestly used the single verse in the ‘bible study’ in context. Did he handle the words of Jesus accurately? Does God overwrite all our sayings to correct us? Let’s see what Jesus said:

“My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.” John 4:34-38. (Emphasis ours.)

So what has this verse got to do with God’s presence™? It doesn’t. But what is Pringle trying to say? That God will override our sayings to say something else?

Pringle used ONLY John 4:35 to explain that, “We can say one thing, but God says this: we can’t go without the presence”. This could be true BUT Jesus in his next breath says in AGREEMENT that, “the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true“. So… what is going on?

Why did Pringle exclude this? If he kept the scripture in context wouldn’t people be able to see that God can be in agreement with our sayings?

We are assuming he wants people to think like this in the bible study:

As a reader, are you ready for the hour you are about to step into: Presence™ Conference 2013?
How is it possible to give God all your life if you do not go?
Don’t you realise that God is telling you that you can’t go without the Presence™ of God?
Can’t you see that if you say “I might not go to Presence™ Conference”, God might be telling you to do the opposite?

It’s wrong for Phil Pringle to make Jesus out to be a liar. When you read the verse in its context, the entire bible study is debunked and made pointless. This seems to indicate that Pringle is misleading his entire Connect Group network with this study to try and get people to go to his Presence Conference. Quite frankly this is despicable behaviour coming from a ‘pastor’.

But it get’s worse…

WHAT IS THE C3 VISION BUILDERS DINNER & THE C3 VISION?

Before looking at the Vision Builders marketing ploys Pringle weaves in his teachings, it is important that you understand the ‘Vision Builders’ dinner.

We’ll let C3 explain what it is.

If you do not know what the ‘Vision’ of God is to Phil Pringle, it is this. (Also watch the video via below source link.)

“Our vision for C3 Church is to see 1000 Churches planted by the year 2020 with an average attendance of 500 members.” – 2020 Vision, C3 Church Global, http://c3churchglobal.com/cms/2020-vision. (Accessed 14/06/2013.)

With this in mind, it is time to look at how Phil Pringle convinces people to sign up for the ‘Vision Builders’ dinner so they can make financial pledges to C3 Church’ building initiatives.

VISION BUILDERS MARKETING GIMMICKS

Here is what you will find advertised on the myc3church website. Ask yourself this question: Who “prepares a table” for you? God or C3?

To reduce the size of this article, we will only look at C3’s Vision Builders video and C3’s latest ‘bible study’ Connect Notes.

Here is the video.

The transcript reads:

“What a humbling thing it is to realise that God, the Creator of the universe, maker of heaven and earth, has prepared a table for you. Long before you acknowledged Him, your place had been set, the invitation extended. Taste and see that the Lord is good. It was not a place you could earn or deserve. You were lost. Dead. But now, you are found alive, caught up in his great story. And so before you is a banquet. A feast of provision. That you may play a part in the midst of darkness bringing the light.”

Like other Vision Builders dinner, Pringle encouraged people to bring their wallets to the table and make pledges to the C3 building fund. (Quick reminder: The light is Jesus, not our money.)

There is something seriously wrong with the video presentation. Do you think this advert has gone one step further than worldly marketing? How do you feel when you watch this? Who is really preparing the table? God or Pringle? Who is really asking people to give cash? God or Pringle? Who is asking you to expand in your sacrificial giving? God or Pringle?

The lines were deliberately blurred to entice and pressure C3 members to give sacrificially. But would God really want people to give financially at this event?

C3 BIBLE STUDY CONNECT GROUP NOTES

If that’s not disturbing enough, look how Phil Pringle in the last two weeks planned out the C3 Church bible study connect group notes.

CN03Jun13 – GRAND DESIGNS: PURPOSE, PLANS & PURSUIT

CN11Jun13 – GRAND DESIGNS: SPARE NOT – Ps Phil Pringle

You can see bible passages are being twisted in these Connect Notes when Pringle wants people to ask these questions:

TALK ABOUT:
* Have you ever had a time of stretching with God?
* Are you ever tempted to “bail out” or “dig up the seed” in waiting for God to grow something in you?
* Does it encourage you when God says you shall expand or His people will inherit?

Source: http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/CN11Jun13.pdf (03, June 2013.)

Here is this weeks Connect Notes questions:

TALK ABOUT:
* What is your part of God’s grand design? Are you looking to the Bible to affirm the plan of God?
* Discuss how our church leadership and vision is always exhorting us to expand and look out.
* Are you involved in the width, the length, the depth or the height of his plan? Where is God calling you? [Note Pringle’s allusion to
* How are you investing in the future of His magnificent house? How can we each step up rather than only attend meetings?

Source: http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/CN03Jun13.pdf, (11, June, 2013.)

These questions should be properly revealed this way:

* Have you ever had a time of stretching with Phil Pringle pressuring you to give money?
* Are you ever tempted to “bail out” or “dig up the seed” because Phil Pringle keeps telling you, “God [wants] to grow something in you”?
* Does it encourage you when Phil Pringle says you shall expand or His people will inherit?
* What is your part of Phil Pringle’s grand design? Are you looking to the Bible to affirm the plan of Pringle (or testing what He says to what God says)?
* Discuss how our church leadership and vision is always exhorting us to expand and look out.
* Are you involved in the width, the length, the depth or the height of Pringle’s financial plan? What is Pringle calling you to do?
* Discuss how you are investing in the future of Phil Pringle’s ministry? How can we each step up rather than only attend meetings?

What’s the answer to the last question? “How are you investing in the future of His magnificent house? How can we each step up rather than only attend meetings?” Answer: Go to Vision Builders.

Is this biblical? Do people realise they are being financially duped by Phil Pringle? Do they know what they are hearing is not the biblical context but a deceptive marketing scheme? How should members feel if they are being manipulated like this? Is this the way Phil Pringle should run his church?

Please pray that members get wisdom and and understanding so they do not put themselves under financial stress.

Vision Builder 2013 Brochure

13 Thursday Jun 2013

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Vision Builders Phil Pringle C3

Here is the latest Vision Builders booklet.

C3 Vision Builders Booklet 2013

If you would like to find this document on the myc3church.com website, scroll over the button at the top of the page titled ‘Community’ and click ‘Vision Builders’.

proof_myc3church-VBflyerguide_12-06-2013When the next page loads, scroll down the page until you hit “Download the brochure”.

proof_myc3church-VBflyerguide2_12-06-2013It will take you to the Vision Builders pdf.

Our first article on C3 Church Watch was pointing out Phil Pringle’s Vision Builders Campaign was exploiting C3’s poorest members. Sadly, this hasn’t changed.

In our third article ever on C3 ChurchWatch we raised our concern with ‘Christians Against Poverty’ (CAP) working alongside the immoral nature of the C3 cult. We do admire the work CAP does in people’s lives. However, we would strongly suggest that CAP would distance themselves from Christian City Church Oxford Falls. Why?

In the 2013 ‘Vision Builders’ brochure, C3 writes about their achievements through CAP. They now consider CAP’s achievements as their own.

“Christians Against Poverty

Last year, 100 families struggling financially were assisted through our 2 centres. As a result, many people received Christ for the first time. In

January we launched our new City Campus CAP Centre, with Monica Olander as the Manager.Since beginning our ministry with CAP we have assisted 490 families, and have seen 130 decisions for Christ.”

Source: Vision Builders 2013 Brochure, http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/C3-Vision-Layout-FINAL4-optimised.pdf, pg. 6. (Accessed 12/06/2013.)

So CAP has led 130 people to Christ? What’s wrong with CAP doing this? Nothing is wrong if members of the CAP are genuinely concerned leading people to Jesus Christ. However, they are leading these people into a Word of Faith cult that scams people of the little money they have. This is tragic.

We have enough evidence to say that the C3 institution preaches a different gospel and binds people to give sacrificial financial offerings so God can bless them materially. As Dr Choo said about CHC, so too are his words applicable to C3 Oxford Falls: “This is not Christianity. This is not the gospel. This is a SCAM.” Since when is it right to exploit people who are in “out-of-control” debt?

Sadly, this undoes the wonderful work of CAP. The CAP are only furthering the support of destroying people’s financial future by working with the C3 cult. The proof of this is in this Vision Builder 2013 booklet. C3 writes,

“I am in significant debt, should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?

If you are in ‘out of control’ debt, after your tithe the debt should be your next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount (or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount is insignificant.”

Source: Vision Builders 2013 Brochure, http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/C3-Vision-Layout-FINAL4-optimised.pdf, pg. 13. (Accessed 12/06/2013.)

So why would the CAP endorse a cult that teaches it’s members to give money they don’t have to ‘the vision’ of Phil Pringle? The idea behind giving money to Phil Pringle’s prophetic vision is that God will materially bless the giver. You will not find this ‘Christian’ teaching anyway in scripture and is nothing more than a financial con job.

This is not the first time the C3 cult has decided to financially exploit it’s poorest members. This is the fourth year the C3 cult has had this information in it’s Vision Builders campaign material. You’d think by this stage they would have removed it.

Instead we have continually recorded C3 Church exploiting their financially struggling members in their heavily marketed Vision Builders campaigns.

Vision Builders 2012 Brochure

Vision Builders 2011 Magazine

Vision Builders 2010 Magazine

Why are Christians in C3 Church not concerned about this? Why is CAP supporting C3 Church? Are they not aware that the people they are taking out of poverty are bought back into poverty when they are introduced to the C3 cult? Why is Phil Pringle exploiting the poorest people in his congregation?

How is this loving?

 

Prophets for Profit | Sermon Review: “Make Room for God” by Phil Pringle of C3 Church

24 Tuesday Jul 2012

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From myc3churchreview.wordpress.com

This video is a full length (90 minute!!) review of a sermon preached by Phil Pringle of C3 Church Oxford Falls, Sydney, Australia. The sermon is entitled “Make Room For God” and was released in iTunes on 21/07/2009.

The main theme of this review is “eisegesis”. I point out how Phil Pringle imposes his own agenda onto the Biblical text in order to manipulate people into donating money to the C3 Building Fund.

Please share this video with anyone you know who attends a C3 Church affiliated with Phil Pringle.

p.s. I apologise for the poor audio/visual quality. Due to the length of the video it was necessary to compress it for upload to YouTube and so naturally the quality has been significantly diminished. Again, my apologies.

Giving Money To Jesus Before Anything Else?

16 Saturday Jun 2012

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Pringle says in his book ‘Keys To Financial Excellence’,

“Some people ask me if they should tithe on the net or the gross amount. I tell them I’m the wrong person to ask if they’re looking for an easy answer. God should come first, before the government, in His claim on our finances. I’ll bet Jesus is pretty weary of being at the end of the line, waiting for our meager leftovers. He shouldn’t even be in the line! He gets the first of all our income, not the IRS, not the medical insurers, not the bills, not the kids, not the vacation, not the recreational vehicles. Our tithe comes from all the money we earn, which includes the amount we earn that goes to pay our income taxes.  In simple terms, my answer is that we should tithe on our gross income, which means all of our income-whether it is gifts, benefits, dividends, earned income-anything that brings financial increase to us. One-tenth of it all belongs to God. That’s not too much to ask of a God who gave it all to us in the first place.

We must realize that tithing is only the beginning of giving. Once we have given God the tithe that belongs to Him, we can then begin to give offerings to the Lord that are above and beyond the tithe…and bring above and beyond abundance!” – Phil Pringle, Keys To Financial Excellence, 2003, pg. 81-82.

Would you say this is good financial advice from Phil Pringle? We encourage readers to compare the last paragraph above to the Vision Builders brochures.

Vision Builders 2012 Brochure

13 Wednesday Jun 2012

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C3 has made their latest scandalous Vision Builders brochure downlable as a pdf document.

VISION-BUILDERS-BROCHURE (2012)

If you want to know how to access this from C3, first go to the C3 Church website at http://www.myc3church.net. On the drop down menu at the top, roll over ‘COMMUNITY’ button and click on ‘VISION BUILDERS’ (not the new drop down menu that pops up).

Scroll to the bottom of the ‘Vision Builders’ page and you will see a pdf link titled, ‘VISION BUILDERS E-BROCHURE’.

On page 10 of this e-brochure, we read something familiar:

“I am in significant debt , should I pay off my debts or give to Vision Builders?

If you are in ‘out of control debt’, after your tithe the debt should
be your next priority. Reducing the debt to a manageable amount
(or even clearing it completely) should be attempted as you also
make a manageable gift to Vision Builders. Remember no amount
is insignificant.” – Vision Builders 2012, http://www2.myc3church.net/sites/default/files/VISION-BUILDERS-BROCHURE.pdf, pg. 10.

Once again, C3 is exploiting the poor in their congregation. This is the third year C3 Church is giving crippling advice to those who have no money. Why is this immoral behaviour from C3 continuing in the name of God?

We also found the following information on the myc3church website. (From http://www2.myc3church.net/vbpartners.) This below information will be useful for a future C3 Church Watch article.

Partner With Vision Builders
How Can Be Part Of Vision Builders
1) Prayerfully consider the level of giving that you feel is appropriate for you. Your decision should be based on both faith and wisdom. Remember, the philosophy of Vision Builders is equal sacrifice not equal giving.

2) Make a formal commitment to give on a Vision Builders commitment card during the Vision Builders campaign. You will have an opportunity to make your commitment during the Weekend services of 20/21 and 27/28 June by completing a commitment card. Alternatively, you can obtain a commitment card at any time from the Information Desk in the church foyer.

3) SERVING: Choose your method of fulfillment regular payment – This is one of the most successful ways to fulfill your commitment by making a regular weekly or monthly contribution. Regular giving is rewarding and quickly builds as illustrated in the table below.

PAYMENT PLANS

Weekly Monthly Annually
10 43 520
20 86 1,040
40 173 2,080
80 346 4,160
150 650 7,800
300 1,300 15,600
500 2,166 26,000
1,000 4,332 52,000

Salary Sacrifice: You can arrange with your employer to make a deduction from your salary each pay before tax. Please contact the C3 Church Accounts Department to organise.

Direct Transfer: Can be arranged through your employer or bank. Your bank can arrange regular transfers to occur automatically. You can also organise regular payments via the Internet banking. Again please contact the C3 Church Accounts Department to organise. Or you can choose to make a payment from money currently available or when you receive a work bonus, tax refund or via an asset sale.

Online Donation: Is a popular and convenient way of giving via the Internet. To donate online, click on the ‘Online Giving’ link on the homepage or at the top of this page. Complete the information required and select the ‘Rise and Build’ field. Then continue with ‘proceed’.

Contact us via email if you would like further information.

Vision Builders 2010 Magazine

08 Friday Jun 2012

Posted by in C3 Culture, C3 Ministry, C3 Teaching, C3 Values, Pringle's Behaviour, Pringle's Issues/Events, Pringle's Laws

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This is C3 Church’s Vision Builder Magazine 2012. See there E-brochure here:

Vision Builders Magazine 2010 (Accessed 08/06/2012)

We have a made this copy available in case C3 Church takes it down from the internet. On page 10, there is instructions telling people who have no money to give money.

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Vision Builders 2011 Magazine

07 Thursday Jun 2012

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This is C3 Church’s Vision Builder Magazine 2011. See there E-brochure here:

Vision Builders Magazine 2011 (Accessed 08/06/2012)

We have a made this copy available in case C3 Church takes it down from the internet. On page 15, there is instructions telling people who have no money to give money.

Phil Fundamentally Flawed?

24 Tuesday Apr 2012

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Scattered through the New Testament are scriptures that explain the church is the people of God, the body of Christ. (1 Corinthians 12, Romans 16:5, Ephesians 1:22-23, 1 Peter 2:9.)

In one of his C3 leaders meetings, Pringle teaches his leaders that the church and the kingdom of God are two different things. He explains that the church is an organisation.

Pringle builds on this and teaches that church members live in the church and disciples live in the kingdom.

Can anyone explain where on earth Pringle got this teaching from? Is this is a holdover from Catholicism? What scriptures does he use to prove such absurd teaching?

An Enigmatic Messy Message

In the below video, C3 members will lay claim that the church is family; “the gateway to heaven”; “the place where Christ is”; “where his people are”; “an exhilarating experience”; “a real place where we gather together to worship”; “a God thing”; “not just a building – it’s us as people”; “His house”; “His strength”; “home”; and others, some implying that the church is either a gathering or specifically the C3 church or movement.

Could Pringle’s faulty fundamental doctrines explain why Pringle’s church members said what they said in this video?

While the video may be heavily edited, is it not concerning that the greater global body of believers isn’t recognised in this clip? Should it be concerning that Phil Pringle is teaching his leaders flawed fundamentals?

And he got his ‘doctorate’ how?

Is Doctor Phil Pringle Really a Doctor?